A space flying sim too apparently!
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He should be thread banned as he never posts anything positive.
they're doubling down on the things I hate the most in bethesda games - the building and crafting
Think it looks great. Not convinced that it is coming out in the next 12 months though. At least, not sure that it should come out in the next 12 months.
If you don't like Elder Scrolls or Fallout then obviously you're not going to like this though. The gameplay and performance is always janky vs a tighter single player experience. It's the overall package that will hopefully make it stand out.
If you don't like Elder Scrolls or Fallout then obviously you're not going to like this though. The gameplay and performance is always janky vs a tighter single player experience. It's the overall package that will hopefully make it stand out.
Exactly this, I expected people shitting on it, no matter what they shown, because, people, can't be helped. I liked what I saw.
No Mans Sky at 15 fps
Something to wow me... More hoping than expecting tbf.
Good scale - let's see if the worlds have enough soul and intrigue though
For a hyped AAA game from a massive studio this looks so fecking bland. Really not impressed with Starfield so far.
Blizzard are still the kings. Diablo 4, Overwatch 2 and a WoW expansion coming within the next 12-18 months!
Blizzard are still the kings. Diablo 4, Overwatch 2 and a WoW expansion coming within the next 12-18 months!
1,000 planets too. It'll take me years to complete
Fair enough
Visually very impressive but the gameplay doesn’t look anything to shout home about. It looks a bit wonky, particularly the gun play.
Then again, it’s Bethesda
It was meant to be the next big Bethesda open world game following their tried and tested formula. Which it clearly is.
Not sure anybody expected innovation, which there clearly isn't.
So we're all agreed Xbox won E3, right?
Average show for me. I was brought around a little by Kojima and I liked Starfield.
Best Xbox news of the last week is that Shredder's Revenge is going in GamePass. I can't wait for that!
Best Xbox news of the last week is that Shredder's Revenge is going in GamePass. I can't wait for that!
I agree and disagree.
I will be playing this the moment it drops, no doubt.
But come on, that engine is exactly what they've done to us time and time again, it's poor at very best. Which means there will be breaking problems on launch and it will look like shit. But that will be fine if the game plays well! But will it? That gunplay looks awful and the space battles look mediocre.
I truly hope I'm talking it down out of desperation for it to be good, I really do. But my Spidey senses are tingling.
Was hoping for evolution, innovation. Was hoping that MS money and oversight might help them to reach a higher level. Maybe that will happen at some point, but this wasn't the trailer to exhibit that. I've been playing their games since Morrowind.
Waaah waaah waaaaaah!
All jokes aside, there were only 3/4 games that I'll likely pick up: Hollow Knight, Persona, Starfield and Coccoon
Obviously Kojima's next IP but that's a long way off.
Thought the environment variety and scale looked incredible. Wish they had given 5-10 minutes uncut though, but maybe that would have been a bad idea as it looks like they haven't come that far along with their gunplay.
Challenge with those cut together clips it was really difficult to tell how dynamic those environments were. With Cyberpunk I could get past the janky combat and gameplay because of the overall experience - but I thought the world felt very last gen. Hopefully that isn't the case here. Hard to tell from that.
Could certainly see Avowed being a tighter and maybe even overall, better experience. Real shame we haven't seen that yet..
Challenge with those cut together clips it was really difficult to tell how dynamic those environments were. With Cyberpunk I could get past the janky combat and gameplay because of the overall experience - but I thought the world felt very last gen. Hopefully that isn't the case here. Hard to tell from that.
Could certainly see Avowed being a tighter and maybe even overall, better experience. Real shame we haven't seen that yet..
Agreed. Biome diversity looks great. If they're all empty as feck but a few dinosaurs though, it'll be for nothing.
Hoping we see more at the extended showcase in a few days. Hopefully this cut was just for the mainstream audience and there'll be a bigger deep dive.
What would have been evolution for you?
I think evolution for something like this would have been hard to convey to be fair. I think there's a chance there's some really good QoL improvements in there. What were you hoping for?
Nope, I love games more than anyone in here.
I don't want to see the world burn, I want to see it thrive. Just because I know what I'm talking about in terms of graphics and game design, doesn't mean I don't just want to have fun. The fact I'm in here watching this live without getting the heads up and I didn't bother with the Sony one (where I did) should show that I really give a shit about the games and competition coming from MS.
I will call things as I see them, I always do. There's way more critical people in here than me btw, makes me laugh to see those comments get overlooked though
Backtracking at it's finest!
I know what you mean though, you know I jest. However MS have been using this as the big "OH LOOK WE'VE CHANGED!" title, and it turns out it's exactly as mediocre as we all expected. It's not that I personally expected anything different, it's that I am a little bit sad that we all just accept the same thing.
Standards should rise, we've all paid a lot of money for a shiny new system. And that new system is running an engine that was obsolete 15 years ago.
Only maybe 3/4 I will play from the game pass additions. Then again I'm probably not the target given the only game I'm currently playing is Golden Sun on my retro handheld.
If they don't change the engine for ES6 then I will be annoyed. This game was set out before the acquisition so it is what it is but I will always be hyped for a Bethesda game. I still play Skyrim now so I'm not upset by the graphics.
They are not changing the engine for ES6. It's the Starfield one currently.
And it's not just about the graphics, it's the limitations all round.
I'm not backtracking. It's exactly what I expected to see. I still think it'll be a huge hit for Xbox and get lots of critical acclaim.
I've never said it's going to be the best thing ever or push the needle though. Haven't hyped Starfield up much at all to be fair.
On that innovation front, outside of BOTW2 and maybe Elden Ring (though even that I'm not convinced), what games have pushed the needle in recent years? I'd argue that should be the biggest criticism of Sony too - really high quality games with high production values, but usually very formulaic.
Starfield looks like No Man’s Sky, Fallout 4 and Star Citizen group orgyed and thats what was birthed.
Todd needs to bring that Morrowind sense of curiousity to this game, especially when it’s a space game which is begging to have that theme.
Todd needs to bring that Morrowind sense of curiousity to this game, especially when it’s a space game which is begging to have that theme.
What retro handheld are you rocking?
Whataboutism aside, the problem is there's at least something always going on at Nintendo and Sony. MS have bought Bethseda, a company known for the same old games that were once great and now are good but you know at a cost.
For the record I genuinely didn't find out about what was going to be announced today upfront. I'm hyped for the VR stuff over at Sony, but I knew all about that ages ago so I didn't bother. I watched this today as a gamer hoping to see something. I wouldn't say I'm disappointed as that would mean I expected way more, but I am a little sad that most of it was pre-canned and they are still pretending to have "gameplay footage". It's still all clearly bullshots, and that is the same shit they've done from the start.
I remain a huge fan of the Xbox hardware, I remain disappointed in the fact it is still not getting utilised properly and that their game development division still haven't understood. fecking Americans.
We're all just having fun, you're chaotic neutral at worst.Nope, I love games more than anyone in here.
I don't want to see the world burn, I want to see it thrive. Just because I know what I'm talking about in terms of graphics and game design, doesn't mean I don't just want to have fun. The fact I'm in here watching this live without getting the heads up and I didn't bother with the Sony one (where I did) should show that I really give a shit about the games and competition coming from MS.
I will call things as I see them, I always do. There's way more critical people in here than me btw, makes me laugh to see those comments get overlooked though
In all seriousness, the whole thing was a bit underwhelming, although I missed the start. I've rewatched a bit but it seems like there was no Hellblade 2, which is disappointing.
Ambernic rg351mp. Cracking piece of kit.
I hope that they at least update it.
Would probably agree with @DixieDean that last year was better than this one, which is surprising as they should have been well set up this year. Understand the decision to only show games that are 12 months away but it definitely harmed them, especially since the next 6 months are basically empty.
They could/should have gone harder on 3rd party content. Even if you can play it elsewhere, day 1 gamepass is still great. Last year had things like Yakuza, Back 4 Blood and Hades coming soon.
I've always liked that MS took a back seat with the studios they've acquired. Think it's better for culture, and I didn't want them interfering with the process. But it does feel like some of the studios aren't handling the knock-on from COVID (not just COVID period itself, but even now with agile working and a huge lack of talent) that well - and being part of the MS gaming ecosystem should have really helped them ride that wave. Maybe they do need to take a slightly firmer hand if they want to have that consistent calendar of releases, which will definitely come, but taking longer than it should.
All for 2nd party relationships like the IO Interactive (Hitman makers) game, Contraband and the like but all these partner projects (Kojima today) just feel like distractions when you have a studio belt that large. I know it's a separate team, but they have enough 1p stuff to focus on and get right 1st.
They could/should have gone harder on 3rd party content. Even if you can play it elsewhere, day 1 gamepass is still great. Last year had things like Yakuza, Back 4 Blood and Hades coming soon.
I've always liked that MS took a back seat with the studios they've acquired. Think it's better for culture, and I didn't want them interfering with the process. But it does feel like some of the studios aren't handling the knock-on from COVID (not just COVID period itself, but even now with agile working and a huge lack of talent) that well - and being part of the MS gaming ecosystem should have really helped them ride that wave. Maybe they do need to take a slightly firmer hand if they want to have that consistent calendar of releases, which will definitely come, but taking longer than it should.
All for 2nd party relationships like the IO Interactive (Hitman makers) game, Contraband and the like but all these partner projects (Kojima today) just feel like distractions when you have a studio belt that large. I know it's a separate team, but they have enough 1p stuff to focus on and get right 1st.
They missed off some weird stuff that they could have at least mentioned, there's games in my Game Pass App such as Two Point Campus and Hello Neighbour 2 in the coming soon section which would have bulked out the 3rd party games a bit.
Edit - maybe they're PC only which is why they missed off some
Edit - maybe they're PC only which is why they missed off some
Would love to see Xbox game pushing the needle. Just saying I was never expecting that from Starfield. Do think Gamepass gives them a chance to try new formats and be more adventurous but that hasn't really come through, not yet anyway.
I've seen lots of devs talk about the impact on teams of preparing content for these events, especially if it's gameplay heavy, so in a post-covid world I'm more than happy with gameplay clips, bullshots or whatever you wanna call it for the most part. Beats CGI trailers by a long way. Wouldn't say that was my issue today, though at least 1 or 2 extended gameplay sessions would have been nice. Starfield and maybe some forza. Last years Forza Horizon 5 race was really cool.
Definitely nowhere near maximizing potential yet. Don't disagree with any of that and would agree I'm disappointed too. Soon as I heard 'next 12 months' when we'd already seen Redfall and Forza, I knew there wasn't gonna be much else.
Wouldn't that have been even more filler though? There was already quite a bit.