We have a 20 year old Uruguayan international surely he's decent enough to be Sancho backup?
Antony | Here we go! €100mill, contract until June 2027, option 'til 2028.
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Not saying that it will 100% happen. However, this is how transfers work. Selling club ask for astronomical fees. Just at BvB did when we first wanted Sancho. You either negotiate it down, or wait till it comes down to a price you're happy to pay.
Revisit this one in January/next summer if needs be. Ajax are being silly now.
Sounds good but means the more money you get the more São Paulo get. So it makes no difference, they’ll still be getting cut out.
He really isn’t. He’s no better than what we could pick up in the Championship.
I'm not as confident in this one as I was, still a chance late in the window. But the money being spoken about is totally obscene for him.
Because they have a lot of money from transfers this window, so they can put a high amount on his transfer. Next summer, his price will be much less.
Chong was preferred to him on tour, don't think Ten Hag rates him.
What was the point of him and Amad then, when you buy players that young its because you see high potential even if they're raw.
So you develop this potential into proper footballers, are you saying they both have low ceilings?
Rumours are he was the one who was late to a meeting and got punished for it by getting dropped in the matches.
Doesn't mean he can't turn it around though. He's got more talent than Chong for sure.
I struggle to believe that they've increased his price. They wanted 80m euros and apparently Antony has been asking them not to price him out of a move and to consider offers, so they up it to 100m euros? Antony would be pretty furious if that was the case. Nobody is ever spending that much on a player from Eredivisie.
We scored more as a team before Ronaldo came back, and we´ll score more when he leaves.
He demands every attack ends with him and he is simply not good enough anymore to be that guy.
And no, noone can predict anything but I´d put money on Martial (or a new striker) doing at least as good if given the chance in Ten Hags system. Pre season means shit, but it does look like Martials is giving a shit again.
We saw it on tour with even someone like Dalot. We didn't see any of his dumb crosses in preseason. He played to his strengths and looked miles better in attack than he did last season when he tried to end almost every attack by crossing to Ronaldo.
I would say with him and Frenkie in, that would make it one of the best windows we’ve ever had.
I can list a tone of players where this hasn’t worked. Just because they cost a fair bit doesn’t mean we have to force the issue.
Amad looks talent but he’s not strong enough for this league. That can improve but he’ll need to go off and do that on loan. Rangers was a good eye opener for his lack of physicality and it cost him his position.
The other guy? Well where do I start. Was as bad as the Bebe signing. Never going to make it here and I’ve said already a scout I know said scouts were shocked United brought him. I can see why.
My goodness. Maybe it had something to do with the abysmal coaching? The loss of morale? The lack of clear leadership? The squad having trouble makers? The shite press around every moment? I think it was less Ronaldo and more a systemic collapse.
Caftards will tell you it's only right we go and "support" the manager and pay the 100m euros.
Did you read the post? In particular the part about letting the player play then making the decision.
Not sure what relevance Maguire has as after seeing him play for us it’s clear he wasn’t worth the money we paid. It could all go to shite for Martinez &/or Antony but saying ‘he’s not worth more than €40million’ when in no deal will he go for anything near that is stupid. By all means offer €40mil for him tops, you aren’t getting the player though.
We'll never reach the height City and Liverpool are by relying on one forward upfront, we must play as a team, score, create and defend as one.
Why indulge a 37 year old when we're starting a long term project, why compromise on a style of play for a player who is already past his best and might be retired or in some irrelevant league by the time the team should be hitting its peak?
If my maths is correct, if you want to keep a certain figure in your pocket, the total transfer fee will have to be more.
Let's say Ajax wants to keep 60 million euro's, Ajax will then want you to pay about 10 million euro's additional.
Surely, he's not scored than many for us
Not a viable deal. Anything over 80m euros is robbery and we should look elsewhere. Ajax have the right to hold firm.
There are other wingers out there if we’re that desperate. 80-100m is pretty wild. Antony is no great white buffalo like Frenkie is.
It's almost like waiting until late in the window to try and buy a player from a club that has already lost multiple players is a bad idea. I know it's a controversial opinion
I always liked Neto at wolves, can play both flanks.
Pretty much agreed yes. If he was the only hole in our team, I'd be up for it, I think he's amazing. But there is more work to do.
Then why does he consistently get picked for Uruguay? Can’t be that bad. Swear posters consistently down play a footballers ability for no reason whatsoever
Wonder what we'd have been able to get him for had we moved early in the window?
Anything over £65m is crazy, especially during a window where similar players like Raphinha have moved for £55m.
That said, if we are willing to make a big move for him, I wonder if this would be us diverting Frenkie funds? I get the sense we are not financially able/willing to move like many others in the market for whatever reasons.
Anything over £65m is crazy, especially during a window where similar players like Raphinha have moved for £55m.
That said, if we are willing to make a big move for him, I wonder if this would be us diverting Frenkie funds? I get the sense we are not financially able/willing to move like many others in the market for whatever reasons.
And this is why we have a chance. He won't be worth as much next year with a year less on his contract, under anew manager (unknown whether they have a great season), he may do well in the WC, but probably Raphinha plays ahead of him.
They will never sell him for as much as they can this summer.
That's the point, Maguire not in any case scenario would have been worth the 80m pounds we paid for him. I admit I wanted Maguire and felt he would have been a good signing, I still think he is a good player, but the decision makers and those who are paid to supervise the sporting project of Manchester United football club should have known that 80m pounds for Maguire was lunacy. Same as paying 100m for Antony and 60m for Martinez.
Move on at that price it’s ridiculous
100m is stupid.
He is second behind Rafinha who went for half that money, they are being silly and ridiculous.
getting 60m euros for him will put them in the front seat to buy who ever they want in Holland to challenge in the league again. Its not like they will Challenge for the CL.
I cant see anything in Amad if i am honest. He didnt do it at Rangers who are a top championship low premiership comparison. He didnt show up on the tour when he played. Iqbal and Savage did for example. Pellestri wasnt even given a chance on tour and I can see these sold or let go once their contracts end
The price will obviously fall
But it's going to take the player demanding the move, like Martinez did.
But it's going to take the player demanding the move, like Martinez did.
Consistently ? Bit of a stretch, the reason is he isn’t good enough, fairly big reason
Good question that unfortunately could be put to pretty much every player we have signed since Sir Alex left. The answer is they aren't as good as our scouts said.
Yep, if Antony wants the move and is determined to get his “dream” move, he will have to push for it.
I can see a situation where we pay 60m up front and 80m in variables.
It all depends on ETH, he will have to say to the board he wants that player and by all accounts it seems like he is very keen on Antony They may give him the ultimatum, we can go all in on Antony but well have to abandon the FDJ deal.
Ajax can't buy a player of similar quality, because who wants to play in the Eredivisie? Bergwijn luckily is Dutch, and a former academy player but Ajax would need to develop another talent, which takes time.
I think Bergwijn is going to excel, though he didnt impress me at all for Spurs. He's looking hot in pre-season so far.
I think your setting your self up for disappointment, there is no guarantee we’ll get either of them, let alone both. Didn’t we say the same last season about CR7, Sancho, Raphael Varane. There is no guarantees either will be a huge success in the PL, I’m just not into the same bs on transfers sagas that we get into every season only to be ultimately disappointed when they don’t happen or hugely disappointed when they do like Alexis Sanchez, P Pogba, DVB, H Maguire, A Di Maria and never ever live up to the hype.
Huge transfers or wages for so called elite talent that come to united and become football zombies. No thanks, get the youngster in, we can wait a few more years, the last 9 have been dreadful so what’s a few more. There is no quick fix for this club.
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