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Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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Might not have sources within Chelsea. Might be government sources, as it was all done through them.
maybe he has a few sources within Chelsea but i highly doubt he's well connected with the transfer side of things. If he had connections to Boehly himself, he'd be classed as undisputed tier 1 as everything he says would be from the main man himself
It you look closely, you can see how he photoshopped his mustache away
Most of the crap we get is briefings from the Spanish side. Not sure what they get from it to be fair, it's not going to make any difference to anything. It's pretty much just trying to break de Jongs resolve i imagine
Why does the likes of Liverpool and Chelsea have mouth pieces talking like they're fans of the clubs but we are stuck with the likes of Simon Stone who seems like he hates his job and the rest with Ogden and co who seems bitter towards the club?
Hopefully the board learns something.
Spend weeks negotiating with Barca and actually jetted off to Barcelona for a player who doesn't give a feck about us.
Season's started and we are still scrambling for targets for the millionth time.
Peoples hope of a better season?
ffsErr - Some on here are actually willing to wait till the last day for FdJ - and if that doesn't happen, we'll get in more panic rubbish buys/or not at all!
I want a better season and if that is quality signings like SMS by having to cut this cord, then be it - there's 2-3 weeks left of the window for crying out loud
P.S if anyone tells anyone to have faith in the clubs persuit over this signing after all the mess the club has shown so far, good luck to you
Wondering if I can now say hes clearly off to Chelsea and it be accepted.
But you have zero knowledge about anything on this transfer. Just like the muppets. We are all reading the same things. All making our opinions. You are not an ITK. No one here is.
So coming out with predictions and then glorifying your “Told you so” moments is nothing short of a dick move.
Some here are wanting to “see muppets cry”. Do they really think muppets are going to have their head in their hands and cry themselves into depression? It’s football for feck sake. You dream, you enjoy, you despair.
Imagine having a midfield of Kante, Jorginho, Kovacic and even Gallagher and still adding FdJ
Meanwhile we have McFred and are after Rabiot. What a joke.
3 months wasted for Chelsea to come in and get it done laughing stock of the PL.
Meanwhile we have McFred and are after Rabiot. What a joke.
3 months wasted for Chelsea to come in and get it done
laughing stock of the PL.People acting like it was a massive waste of time that we were going after one of the world's very best midfielders when they are in a very uncertain state at their club and wanting to be doubly sure we can't get him before we sign alternatives.
Imagine if we signed an alternative a week ago and Chelsea came out today saying "We decided not to go for it" and Barca somehow wrangled FDJ into leaving.
I mean, if there's a chance, you give it patience and time, nothing wrong with what they did in my opinion.
Imagine if we signed an alternative a week ago and Chelsea came out today saying "We decided not to go for it" and Barca somehow wrangled FDJ into leaving.
I mean, if there's a chance, you give it patience and time, nothing wrong with what they did in my opinion.
Howso? If there was a chance we could get someone he knew , is very good and who he wanted to base our team around, why shouldnt we try to get him? We clearly have had alernative targets in place so its not like they have been snatched up in the meantime.
I dont understand why wanting a very good player reflects poorly on the manager .
Learns… you don’t think they learned from Fabregas or Thiago?
The crowd are on the pitch, they think it's all over.....
It's going to be a terribly toxic atmosphere for the Liverpool game now. Gulp.
How is any of this on Murtaugh ? He did his job and persuaded the club to sell - it was ETH who couldnt persuade FDJ to join us - and wasted the entire summer rather than signing someone else.
Some people just love to be negative and really enjoy the whole "i was right, you were wrong feck you"
It's football, it's a game and transfers are just part of it. The muppet threads are all about the fun and banter, highs and lows. It's just some people like to take it to the extreme and bask in the negativity. I'm here because i love the chats we're having and its fun to speculate. No one here is ITK, and half the journos know feck all, they're writing stories because it's their job and the have too. If that means recycling info and adding opinion, they'll do that
I don’t think he’s clearly off to Chelsea, I think he could stay at Barca. He’s not coming here though.
Because he rather daftly put all his eggs in the basket of hoping they would be able to convince Frenkie. That is unbelievably naieve.
Murtough is the Sporting Director the buck falls with him. Its his decision on what targets to follow and for how long. Its not Ten Hags and if he didn’t have the balls to stand up to Ten Hag then he shouldn’t be in the job.
Thatl do. Even a stern acceptance that he is not coming here and that we wasted multiple other avenues as a consequence of this stupid pursuit.
Still think he stays at Barca.
You could well be right, but as I said, he's been a pretty reliable Chelsea ITK on transfers. Most of the details we've gotten about the Fofana stuff, for example, has come from him.
At least it won’t sting at all really if we miss out on De Jong since we already have a nice midfield. This would basically be the ultimate luxury signing for Chelsea.
Fofana on the other hand would hurt because there aren’t really any other top class options.
Fofana on the other hand would hurt because there aren’t really any other top class options.
Again theres no absolute solid proof that he wants to join Chelsea. Ornstein said if he was to leave, he's no preference on where he goes. That means he's not ruled anyone out.
Chelsea journos are obviously going to spin it to say that he wants Chelsea. United journos say we're still confident he wants us. They say that because no one fecking knows where he wants to go IF he has to leave. He wants to stay, thats the only certain news we have
Doesn't look like it's the case though, is it?
Every single report (and we had plenty of them) saying FdJ doesn't want to leave Barca, doesn't want to join United or prefers joining Chelsea instead of us, is getting dismissed immediately as not reliable by some here. Our entire hopes for the transfer lies on "we would not be in it if we didn't have indications of him willing to come here". But I think people put way too much faith in our club with this one. It was fun while it lasted but now it became boring with people simply trolling because nobody can actually believe we are getting him.Woodward would have made this happen 
just saying
just sayingAbsolute nothing has changed and you know it, it's still a complete guessing game and nobody really knows how it turns out to finish.
Maybe so, but the guys on reddit, where this whole tier list crap started i believe, don't rank him that highly outside of the takeover stuff
I don't think he did. There is still time left in the transfer window. We didn't sign other players during the time we could sign FDJ because if we did, and FDJ became available, we would not have the funds to sign FDJ as we'd have already signed another player for that position. They are now looking at other players and there is still plenty of time.
Now, some of the other signings that are being considered are very concerning to me, sure. But the way they went about FDJ and not signing a replacement until they are sure FDJ won't join us is nothing to scoff at, it's smart business.
I hope Barca steal Fofana as well
If ETH tells him to focus on signing FDJ - what should he say ? No - sign someone else - how is that for backing your manager ?
I hate Chelsea. That is all
Can we get little paper hats and special taglines for those who want to get praise for ‘calling it’ correctly?
They seem very insecure and would really value the e-recognition and prestige that Caf brings.
They seem very insecure and would really value the e-recognition and prestige that Caf brings.
The sad thing is that I think that is true.Woodward would have made this happen
Within a week of Chelsea showing interest, he is going to sign for them.
What on earth was De Jong telling Ten Hag and what on earth was Ten Hag hearing that meant we spent 2 1/2+ months chasing for this guy and our fallback being Rabiot?
I can't fathom the levels of incompetency and stupidity.
What on earth was De Jong telling Ten Hag and what on earth was Ten Hag hearing that meant we spent 2 1/2+ months chasing for this guy and our fallback being Rabiot?
I can't fathom the levels of incompetency and stupidity.
Defo isnt within a week.
So ‘all but’ turned into ‘confirmed’.
You would think after 1 month and no confirmation of FDJ joining we would start drawing up alternative targets..
You know 2 months and still no deal complete, it's starting to look a bit dodgy?...still no alternatives planned.
3 months and still we have no alternate plan. cnut should be sacked on the spot.
You know 2 months and still no deal complete, it's starting to look a bit dodgy?...still no alternatives planned.
3 months and still we have no alternate plan. cnut should be sacked on the spot.
another embarrassing moment for our club
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