Madrid, Barca and Bayern fans would riot.

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We’ve let the club down as fans. Let’s face it - it’s our fecking fault. At the end of the day, Glazers; they’re only custodians of this club.

Owners will come and go but we own Manchester United. And we’ve absolutely neglected this club.

There is a sickness in this club which absolutely can be rid of - if we unite as fans.
 

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Our fans are not like the teams you have mentioned.
If we never 'empty Old Trafford' or anything like that.
It'll take a club sale for our future as a club to be brighter.
Where is Sir Jim ?
 

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Why though? Rioting wont help the players. They feel bar about this too. We need to cheer them up to make them feel wanted, coddled and they'll be happy and work harder not to disappoint the fans.

/Sarcasm
 

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Unfortunately there are lots of fans who don’t care enough or worse, defend the Glazers with arguments that they have spent a lot of money. I can’t see fans coming together to do anything effective.
 

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We’ve let the club down as fans. Let’s face it - it’s our fecking fault. At the end of the day, Glazers; they’re only custodians of this club.

Owners will come and go but we own Manchester United. And we’ve absolutely neglected this club.

There is a sickness in this club which absolutely can be rid of - if we unite as fans.
You're right in principle, but it's no mean task organizing something meaningful. I mean half the people on here were deriding those who stopped the Pool game from going ahead last year. To actually make an impact, you need decisive action which involves breaking a few rules, which in today's PC world would be never fly without drawing criticism from the snowflake section of our fans.
 

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When the fanbase is divided between the support no matter what and riot/boycott etc then you're never going to get a United front.

I've never liked the way Madrid fans treated their players, whistling, flag waving, vandalising their cars when they leave for training - they even booed Ronaldo ffs, but there comes a time where blind cheering is causing issues of complacency, and we're seeing the result of that.

At some point I think even the most staunch "support no matter what" fans will have a breaking point, my guess is that will be this season, you could see the away fans against Brentford almost look on in disgust, and the away fans have been amazing for years!
 

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Yeah it's sickening at the moment. Worse part is, can ETH get back on track with the squad or will we even finish 8th. As it was bad trying to get players to join united. Its even going to get worse now if the squad don't get it together. United simply can't even afford to fail this season. Fecking owners have messed it all up even during the saf years. Since 09 it's been bollocks
 

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At this stage all the ex players working for Utd and Fergie especially are complicit in all this mess. Fans will protest more, that's 100% going to happen, but we also need a rebellion from within the club. Not going to happen but it would get the Glazers out the door much quicker.
 

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Why though? Rioting wont help the players. They feel bar about this too. We need to cheer them up to make them feel wanted, coddled and they'll be happy and work harder not to disappoint the fans.

/Sarcasm
It’s a figure of speech. But to be clear, guys whom were absolutely against this, those who blockaded OT — they’re long gone.
 

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It's hard to unite a fanbase as big and diverse as ours. We seem to have more day-trippers/tourists in our fanbase than any other club.
 

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How many of you would be ok with fans trashing OT? I mean it's already a shithole, may as well go whole hog.
 

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Not sure if this is a serious post.
It's a semi-serious question in trying to gauge how far United fans would go to initiate a change in ownership. I mean what do you think the word riot means?
 

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Personally the only thing the fans really need to do is stick behind the manager. Let’s aim our distain at those above who seem to be showing continued incompetency. Back the manager with everything we have though.
 

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How many of you would be ok with fans trashing OT? I mean it's already a shithole, may as well go whole hog.
It’s absolutely not about destroying any property. We can have peaceful protests. We can get United staff to walk out. I’m not saying players but the dinner ladies and the guys who look after the pitches at carrington. We can set a staging post for them to do so by setting up a fund page so they know they won’t be seen off. Stuff like that. We need to be smart not violent children.
 

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It’s absolutely not about destroying any property. We can have peaceful protests. We can get United staff to walk out. I’m not saying players but the dinner ladies and the guys who look after the pitches at carrington. We can set a staging post for them to do so by setting up a fund page so they know they won’t be seen off. Stuff like that. We need to be smart not violent children.
Yeah, that won't happen, and even if you did somehow convince them all to do so, it wouldn't make one iota of a difference. The Glazers simply don't care about the optics of the club unless the stock price tanks.
 

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Personally the only thing the fans really need to do is stick behind the manager. Let’s aim our distain at those above who seem to be showing continued incompetency. Back the manager with everything we have though.
The best thing he could do apart from winning the PL or CL is resign. It would be like tectonic plates moving. Whatever your views on Clough, Leeds and what happened - 50 years later - it’s still etched into English football psyche. Ten Hag walking would be seismic. He’d be a hero.
 

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While some might think a radical action is unnecessary, most often than not a radical actions would ultimately lead to the changes. It happened all around the world . I know its farfetched to compare social unrest with what happened elsewhere to what we we trying here which is protest against the owner of our football club, but to me the underlying issue more of less is same which is a long-held angers and for us here its towards the Glazers family. Riots can lead to serious attention and change and that is what we exactly need right now.
 

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Stop going to games, stop buying merchandise, stop paying for sky/bt, do everything we can online to put our sponsors off (Arnold literally said that’s working) it’s short term suffering for long term gain. is it even suffering having to watch us get mauled by them next week on telly? at this stage I couldn’t even be arsed watching it on telly never mind in the ground,

I’d love to see people outside the ground next week forcibly keeping people from going into the ground, that’s what would happen in Italy etc, enoughs enough, it’s time to get rid of the parasites
 
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How did Blackpool get rid of the Oystons? How did Blackburn get rid of the Venkys?
 

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Yeah, that won't happen, and even if you did somehow convince them all to do so, it wouldn't make one iota of a difference. The Glazers simply don't care about the optics of the club unless the stock price tanks.
That is absolutely not true.
 

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The worst thing in our fanbase are the people abusing players in social media.
Then, we have those who think that we should applaud our players even if we lose 20-0 by a team from the second division of Iceland. They are way better fans than the above section, but they don't help the situation and in fact the ly help preserve the status quo.
We just need to boo the hell out of players and owners.
Empty Trafford is difficult to achieve but its something.
 

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That is absolutely not true.
What do you honestly think would happen if the dinner ladies or ticket office staff quit United? Suddenly the Glazers will realise they're disliked and sell the club? Will they feck.
 

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How did Blackpool get rid of the Oystons? How did Blackburn get rid of the Venkys?
Venkys still own Blackburn. Blackpool did have an effective boycott of matches, even when they got to the play-off final they had very few fans at Wembley.
 

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What do you honestly think would happen if the dinner ladies or ticket office staff quit United? Suddenly the Glazers will realise they're disliked and sell the club? Will they feck.
If those guys quit out of principle and no one replaces them then its a significant problem. Strikes is effective method against governments never mind an entity trading at 13 dollars.
 

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I'd boo the shit out of those players for a start

Make them feel awful to the stomach, maybe they'll cry, sulk, or asking for a transfer, good fecking riddance.

Who knows they might be ashamed and finally grow a pair, if not then no love lost, they can feck off
 

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This comes from Sir Alex time. Even when we played badly and lost or like were 10th in december 2001 it was never booing at Old Trafford. So it takes time to change that which has become more and more likely over the last few years.
 

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This comes from Sir Alex time. Even when we played badly and lost or like were 10th in december 2001 it was never booing at Old Trafford. So it takes time to change that which has become more and more likely over the last few years.
Well for once they player deserves it.

This is not about losing or winning, this is about taking the piss out of the shirt for 2 bloody years, sulking, leaking news, and not giving a fair feck of football. What they did collectively is criminal, any players with some sort of professional pride wouldn't be this bad.
 

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It is a matter of time before a mass pitch invasion during a game. Seriously.
That’s just barbaric and asking for a player to get seriously hurt.

Football is not that deep, seriously.

I get it we’re upset, but mass pitch invasions are definitely not the way.
 

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The best thing he could do apart from winning the PL or CL is resign. It would be like tectonic plates moving. Whatever your views on Clough, Leeds and what happened - 50 years later - it’s still etched into English football psyche. Ten Hag walking would be seismic. He’d be a hero.
But where would that leave us? That would be the final piece of hope broken.
 

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The best thing he could do apart from winning the PL or CL is resign. It would be like tectonic plates moving. Whatever your views on Clough, Leeds and what happened - 50 years later - it’s still etched into English football psyche. Ten Hag walking would be seismic. He’d be a hero.
A hero for making us even more shit?

I really don’t get the clamour for him walking. We’d be even more shit and fall even further behind. Do we enjoy being shit?
 

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I think we need to be more strategic. Rioting and protesting just increases the toxicity and adds to an already volatile situation.

First thing we need answers from the folks in charge of the football structure. That's the main issue we need sorted out. When they make stupid decisions we need to pull an Arnautovic on them really. The fanbase united on that issue and got it stopped for eg. That's without any major offensive, just fans writing in and putting their points across properly whilst some threatened to dump the season tickets etc. As I say, there are better ways to get their attention.

I'm not sure how or which organisation could put things together. However, we can't be hysterical. /it doesn't achieve anything.
 

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That’s just barbaric and asking for a player to get seriously hurt.

Football is not that deep, seriously.

I get it we’re upset, but mass pitch invasions are definitely not the way.
Agree. It is just asking for violence.

All these pitch invaders enable violence against players and other fans. They may not be the one to do it, but they are opening up an opportunity for it to happen.