Madrid, Barca and Bayern fans would riot.

[UnitedSofa]

The only time in 17 years the glazers even bothered to speak publicly was after a game was postponed. Literally the only precedent set to effect change is from postponing games. Clearly, it works, and nothing, NOTHING, else has.

Pretty much precisely why nothing will get done. We'll have people like you going football is just a game blah blah blah. And fair enough mate, it doesn't mean that much to you, nothing wrong with it. But for people to whom it does mean a lot, seeing the club they and their families have supported for generations, seeing it totally being destroyed is like watching a family member fading away. You can't understand that, sure, but to say people responsible for this demise should not be held accountable is not something I can agree with.

The only way we can hurt the Glazers is by hitting their pockets and if that involves having to resort to stop games from going ahead, then it has to be done.

We only heard from them after games were postponed due to ESL breaking down.

Posponing games does feck all and will only hurt us in the long run. We'd be docked points and fall further and futher behind.

Postponing games does just that post pone the game.

It literally won't make a blind bit of difference, the Glazers won't suddenly decide that they want to sell just because a few games got postponed.

It did not say that whatsoever thank you very much. Of course they should be held accountable. But not resorting to violence (running on to pitch mid-game = high chance of someone getting hurt), rioting, stadium damage. It's barbaric. But do it by other means.

Speak to MUST and see if they'd approach a range of consortiums to see if they'd be willing to purchase the club maybe?

I said that charging onto the pitch mid-game is barbaric and full of hooliganism. We the fan base would get tarnished for generations.

The only way the Glazers will sell the club is if a big offer is given to them. An offer that is too good for them to say no to. It's literally the only way. Any other way is just cutting your nose off to spite your face, we'd fall futher and futher behind if we lost sponsors.

Losing sponsors = less money = less transfer fees = less big names = fall further down the table.

 

[Someone]

I agree with the OP. As a fanbase we've let the club down.

We're more supportive and patient than most fans of top clubs. And throughout the 20 years I've been supporting the club, any calls for protests were frowned upon and discouraged to say the least.

We need that to stop, we need to hurt the Glazers anyway we can, go for the sponsors, stop games, and protest at every possible chance. This is the only language they understand.

 

[stoinz]

The only thing that will get their attention is when the value of the clubs goes down. Either sponsors pulling out, share prices going down or results going bad. Actually results going down will likely cause sponsors to pull out and share prices to drop.

Don't think they are bother with the protests unless you can hurt them where it matters.

 

[Someone]

Have you heard anything about Steaua Bucharest in the last, I don't know 15 years maybe? A CL winner and multiple finalist, 15 years or so Europa League semi finalist. The reason why it's now a non entity is because they have an owner that sees the club as his personal toy, literally says he cares not about either fans or even performance. The fan base is now a small fraction to what it used to be, most refuse to even watch the games.

The point is that it's impossible for fans to do much of anything about the owners. The Glazers had massive protests to deal with at the takeover time and pushed through like it was nothing. If we "riot", make big protests, we are more likely to get some police baton in the head then push the scum out.

That's not true, and I'm sorry but it's the sort of attitude that's holding us back. The Glazers aren't bored billionaires who bought United as a plaything, they're greedy moneymen who are only in it to make profits. They bought the club and made it pay for itself, while watching its value sky rocket over the years. If they start losing money they'll leave.

 

[Carl]

We’ve let the club down as fans. Let’s face it - it’s our fecking fault. At the end of the day, Glazers; they’re only custodians of this club.

Owners will come and go but we own Manchester United. And we’ve absolutely neglected this club.

There is a sickness in this club which absolutely can be rid of - if we unite as fans.

Whenever the fans do try and do something about it they tend to be ridiculed by a really weird subset of United fans on socials and on here too.

 

[jackal&hyde]

That's not true, and I'm sorry but it's the sort of attitude that's holding us back. The Glazers aren't bored billionaires who bought United as a plaything, they're greedy moneymen who are only in it to make profits. They bought the club and made it pay for itself, while watching its value sky rocket over the years. If they start losing money they'll leave.

Ok but how do you do that? People with season tickets will not let go of them with the idea that someone else will take their place, and that is true. I'm not buying shirts or other stuff from the club by principle but there are zilions of fans that do. Most United fans can't see the team in person all that often if at all, so a shirt here or there makes them feel connected to the club. It's super unrealistic to expect a World Wide fan base to stop buying things let alone not watch the games.

The scum barely if ever even go to England or even Europe I would think. They know they are hated. The only realistic way that I can think about having major pressure on them is if we get relegated and have major drops on earnings. Apart from that, people are just in love with this club and you can not ask them to don't watch games or buy the odd shirt for themselves or their kids. The Glazers know this, it's why they bought the club.

I'm open to any idea that gets these leaches out. I'll come to England just for the protests. If people in Manchester organize something I'll be there. More then that, I just don't know what can realistically be done.

 

[Someone]

Ok but how do you do that? People with season tickets will not let go of them with the idea that someone else will take their place, and that is true. I'm not buying shirts or other stuff from the club by principle but there are zilions of fans that do. Most United fans can't see the team in person all that often if at all, so a shirt here or there makes them feel connected to the club. It's super unrealistic to expect a World Wide fan base to stop buying things let alone not watch the games.

The scum barely if ever even go to England or even Europe I would think. They know they are hated. The only realistic way that I can think about having major pressure on them is if we get relegated and have major drops on earnings. Apart from that, people are just in love with this club and you can not ask them to don't watch games or buy the odd shirt for themselves or their kids. The Glazers know this, it's why they bought the club.

I'm open to any idea that gets these leaches out. I'll come to England just for the protests. If people in Manchester organize something I'll be there. More then that, I just don't know what can realistically be done.

We don't every fan in the world to react, and you don't need every local fan either, you've seen what happened last season before the Liverpool game. If enough people act it'll make a huge difference.

 

[King7Eric]

We only heard from them after games were postponed due to ESL breaking down.

Posponing games does feck all and will only hurt us in the long run. We'd be docked points and fall further and futher behind.

Postponing games does just that post pone the game.

It literally won't make a blind bit of difference, the Glazers won't suddenly decide that they want to sell just because a few games got postponed.

It did not say that whatsoever thank you very much. Of course they should be held accountable. But not resorting to violence (running on to pitch mid-game = high chance of someone getting hurt), rioting, stadium damage. It's barbaric. But do it by other means.

Speak to MUST and see if they'd approach a range of consortiums to see if they'd be willing to purchase the club maybe?

I said that charging onto the pitch mid-game is barbaric and full of hooliganism. We the fan base would get tarnished for generations.

The only way the Glazers will sell the club is if a big offer is given to them. An offer that is too good for them to say no to. It's literally the only way. Any other way is just cutting your nose off to spite your face, we'd fall futher and futher behind if we lost sponsors.

Losing sponsors = less money = less transfer fees = less big names = fall further down the table.

And that's where I guess the major divide in the fanbase is. The only way to get rid of the Glazers is to lose sponsors and slide down the table. A club of Utd's status, with our fanbase under the right ownership will rise back fairly quickly, look at Juventus after 2006 as an example.

But we have to be ready to suffer for a few years. Our fanbase who support Utd because their mates randomly chose one club and they chose us, this will be untenable because they will lose face in front of their friends and can't brag online. For people for whom supporting Utd is a way of life will understand it's a necessity now.

Charging games may be "barbaric" or whatever fancy word you want to use, but if that's what needed to get the Glazers out, then I'm all for doing it all year.

 

[jackal&hyde]

We don't every fan in the world to react, and you don't need every local fan either, you've seen what happened last season before the Liverpool game. If enough people act it'll make a huge difference.

Then we're on the same page. As a fan, I will both take part in protests and I refuse to buy stuff. I am making the point though that those that are living in Manchester have more power, at least when in comes to organizing protests. Maybe a bit of a campaign like in Spain with the white handkerchief but directed at the owners? Something like that on a regular bases will travel across the World to every fan.

 

[Swordsman]

We only heard from them after games were postponed due to ESL breaking down.

Posponing games does feck all and will only hurt us in the long run. We'd be docked points and fall further and futher behind.

Postponing games does just that post pone the game.

It literally won't make a blind bit of difference, the Glazers won't suddenly decide that they want to sell just because a few games got postponed.

It did not say that whatsoever thank you very much. Of course they should be held accountable. But not resorting to violence (running on to pitch mid-game = high chance of someone getting hurt), rioting, stadium damage. It's barbaric. But do it by other means.

Speak to MUST and see if they'd approach a range of consortiums to see if they'd be willing to purchase the club maybe?

I said that charging onto the pitch mid-game is barbaric and full of hooliganism. We the fan base would get tarnished for generations.

The only way the Glazers will sell the club is if a big offer is given to them. An offer that is too good for them to say no to. It's literally the only way. Any other way is just cutting your nose off to spite your face, we'd fall futher and futher behind if we lost sponsors.

Losing sponsors = less money = less transfer fees = less big names = fall further down the table.

Any of the fobres top 10 richest man in the world interested in buying a football club ?

 

[Red the Bear]

Let's be honest, we're not at their level anymore, haven't been so for 10 years.

 

[lex talionis]

It’s too much to ask club supporters to refuse buying tickets to matches, but there other options. No more purchasing of club merchandise. Cancel subscriptions to MUFC. No more commercial support of the club in any way apart from attending matches. Ok, but food and drink at OT but let’s not buy their non-gustatory shit.

 

[Lee565]

We’ve let the club down as fans. Let’s face it - it’s our fecking fault. At the end of the day, Glazers; they’re only custodians of this club.

Owners will come and go but we own Manchester United. And we’ve absolutely neglected this club.

There is a sickness in this club which absolutely can be rid of - if we unite as fans.

It's not just these clubs, Liverpool fans also, we are deluded in every way, we still think we are big club that the the best players want to come to for more than just purely bigger wages than they are worth and our fans think we are the best lot in England and look down upon barca and madrid fans as a classless bunch for turning so quickly against managers and players but here we are the laughing stock of football and the glazers continue to suck the soul out of this club as our fans just show no fight to out them

 

[Giggsy13]

@UnitedSofa

You are paid by the Glazers to post on here aren't you? It just has to be.

Glazer mouthpiece or a WUM. I’ve been baffled by some of his/her’s opinion. Either drinking the glazer kool aid or an opposing supporter enjoying our demise.

 

[ROFLUTION]

It seems farfetched, but if we want to put pressure on Glazers shouldnt we physically be in a place where Joel/Glazers reside to fully make them understand the depths and anger about this?

I back #emptyoldtrafford and almost any act of uprising, but the Glazers will just read about a campaign at old trafford seeing it all from a safe distance counting their money. Where do they live? How can we protest there? Can we flood their mailbox? Send a shitton of crap delivery to their mansion, anything?

 

[wangyu]

I always love how people condemn rioting and violence while this is a vital part of human nature and history.
If you want something to change the best option is actually to start rioting. Pitch invasions, booing, throwing stuff on the pitch, insulting players when they move to the tunnel.
I’m not saying skulls neet to be bashed in but camping outside old trafford with your little boys waving a cardboard sign with anti glazer written on it won’t impress anyone either.

 

[scottser]

If we get relegated, the glazers will sell up. All we need to do is borrow a couple of billion to buy a controlling share and we can run the club into the ground ourselves.

 

[The1974s]

I’m young’un but I remember the protests at OT - the blockades some hardcore fans put up. They’ve been called drama queens et al. The fact that it’s still up for discussion a decade and half later - it’s mind boggling.

Mind Boggling indeed .. I've been abused on social media sites over the years for admitting I've been at protests and that shows the huge gap between united fans which I can only hope can stop.
We need to unite as a fan base and get these Parasites out of our great club.

 

[The1974s]

I always love how people condemn rioting and violence while this is a vital part of human nature and history.
If you want something to change the best option is actually to start rioting. Pitch invasions, booing, throwing stuff on the pitch, insulting players when they move to the tunnel.
I’m not saying skulls neet to be bashed in but camping outside old trafford with your little boys waving a cardboard sign with anti glazer written on it won’t impress anyone either.

I'm with you ..I've been at all type of protests over the years but the one which made the biggest impact was getting the Liverpool game cancelled .
I'm all for pitch invasions ,throwing stuff on the pitch just anything to interrupt normal day to day match going ..
I'm actually past caring about point deductions us fans need to keep the pressure on until they leave our club.

 

[Slops]

Losing sponsors = less money = less transfer fees = less big names = fall further down the table.

Exactly.

Financially affecting the club in the short term isn't an unfortunate side effect of any protests. It's the entire point of them.

 

[Barthez]

Let’s hope we get the Liverpool game stopped or abandoned

 

[croadyman]

We only heard from them after games were postponed due to ESL breaking down.

Posponing games does feck all and will only hurt us in the long run. We'd be docked points and fall further and futher behind.

Postponing games does just that post pone the game.

It literally won't make a blind bit of difference, the Glazers won't suddenly decide that they want to sell just because a few games got postponed.

It did not say that whatsoever thank you very much. Of course they should be held accountable. But not resorting to violence (running on to pitch mid-game = high chance of someone getting hurt), rioting, stadium damage. It's barbaric. But do it by other means.

Speak to MUST and see if they'd approach a range of consortiums to see if they'd be willing to purchase the club maybe?

I said that charging onto the pitch mid-game is barbaric and full of hooliganism. We the fan base would get tarnished for generations.

The only way the Glazers will sell the club is if a big offer is given to them. An offer that is too good for them to say no to. It's literally the only way. Any other way is just cutting your nose off to spite your face, we'd fall futher and futher behind if we lost sponsors.

Losing sponsors = less money = less transfer fees = less big names = fall further down the table.

Approach MUST don't make me laugh, they are tucked nicely in the leeches top pocket. No chance we are being saved by a billionaires consortium and that probably means the end.

 

[croadyman]

I always love how people condemn rioting and violence while this is a vital part of human nature and history.
If you want something to change the best option is actually to start rioting. Pitch invasions, booing, throwing stuff on the pitch, insulting players when they move to the tunnel.
I’m not saying skulls neet to be bashed in but camping outside old trafford with your little boys waving a cardboard sign with anti glazer written on it won’t impress anyone either.

Yeah peaceful protesting is pointless

 

[diarm]

Don’t know if I agree, to be honest. In my opinion what’s happening with your club and many other football clubs in Europe, but especially in England, is a symptom of a very serious issue. More and more institutions of culture, places for social gathering and so on are being sold and turned into products without any meaning. That’s an important issue that transcends football.
It is not a good thing, if those who actually keep clubs going have less and less power. It is an issue if these clubs stop being football clubs and become mere products without any heart in it.
Football clubs are social institutions of great importance. People gather and socialise around them. They work in them. They reflect the culture of the communities they are located in. All this is getting lost. The meaning and history is getting loss. And thus community gets lost.
This is a general issue of capitalism. And it goes far beyond football. But if you never start to fight for what should be yours, it’ll soon be gone forever. Your club has been stolen by the Glazers. It has been stripped of its meaning, of its purpose and its beauty. It’s merely a way to enrich a bunch of people who are already obscenely rich. It’s not a club anymore, but a commercial enterprise. It’s become interchangeable. Devoid of meaning.
English fan culture is simply nonexistent. If I watch games in other countries, see how the fans are organised, politically active, active throughout the community, how the people identify with their clubs and then turn to England, it’s sad really. Because non of this exists anymore. It’s just a place where your supposed to spend loads of money so some dude who doesn’t even know a thing about Manchester, the club, the region and so on can become even richer and buy another super yacht. It’s sad and appaling, really. And it upsets me to see, how English fans accept all this shit. Rock bottom for me was to see how Newcastle fans actually cheered becoming a sportswashing front for a horrible and criminal regime.
Don’t know if rioting does help. But it would be great if fans in England would start to organise themselves again. If they would build communities again. If they became active again.
The lack of all this is no coincidence. It’s the sad result of the waste laid upon your country by the horrors of Thatcherism. Because these people understood the political and societal role these clubs played and therefore fought them. Because they were a hinderance for greedy, unhinged capitalists on their way to even more power and wealth, stealing from all of you.
Don’t accept this. Stop being apathetic. Become active ffs.
What’s happening to your club is no coincidence, no unfortunate serious of events. It’s the logical conclusion to a process going on for decades, that’s not being fought against anymore. And until you pick up the fight again, it won’t get better, but will become worse and worse.

What a brilliant post.