Says a lot when the thread is full of talk about how popular the guy is 
Cristiano Ronaldo (I stay)
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Not even closeDon't know mate but I'm getting a feeling that this is an @OverratedOpinion
Ok I'm in.
Tom Cruise has been famous for nearly 40 years.
His most recent film made over a billion.
By what metric (apart from Instagram followers) is Ronaldo more famous than Tom Cruise?
Tom Cruise has been famous for nearly 40 years.
His most recent film made over a billion.
By what metric (apart from Instagram followers) is Ronaldo more famous than Tom Cruise?
Why would Frenkie be a toxic presence? Frenkie is also a player that fits exactly what we need and address clear issues. No idea what your point is.
What is clear to me is that there is still something toxic in the club, just incompatible with his teammates. The only single figure who could have that much influence is Ronaldo. He didn't turn up for pre season, wanted out the whole time, doesn't see himself as part of the team, complains about everything, earns 500k a week but doesn't do a shred of defending on the pitch, doesn't run off the ball, is 37 years old but demands to play every game... Its been repeated time and time again in all team sports. When a former great is no longer a great player, they do more harm than good. He still thinks he's a great - and that makes it even worse.
How did she leverage an average product into a multi billion dollar business just through attention in about 18 months?
It's that simple and I genuinely don't know how anyone think that it's not obvious. The only people that may not know him are literal kids.
Followers on every social media platform, internet clicks, google searches, advertising revenue.
Do you think more people watched top gun than watched Ronaldo in any of his champions league finals?
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He has his own brand of pants
Maybe you're right - I honestly don't know.
But then again, you may be overestimating how many people are using certain platforms. To a degree this is very much about generational differences.
I would guess that the number of people who are roughly as old as I am who do not know who Tom Cruise is - is statistically irrelevant. And that has nothing to do with his current online presence (I know feck all about that - I don't follow anyone on IG, I don't use Twitter, etc.).
But - to provide a counter example, as it were: I'm not 100% sure that my dad knows who Tom Cruise is: he probably hasn't watched any of his movies. But he absolutely knows who Cristiano Ronaldo is (even though he doesn't own a smart phone and has never been anywhere near any social media platform).
So - there are many factors to consider here. My dad: boomer, not into Hollywood blockbusters (in general), zero interest in social media, but is fairly interested in football. Knows Ronaldo, possibly knows Cruise, definitely doesn't know any pop singer who emerged after Michael Jackson, obviously knows every major political/religious figure you can think of.
Ronaldo's so great, you had to post
Instagram followers mate!!!!
It’ll be Martinez’ fault or Ten Hags, maybe Bruno’s who knows but a lot of fans will fall into line to hate whoever is Satan of the week/ month.
Major changes are needed at the club it’s going to take a long time, I get why Ronaldo wants out, he’s at the last chance saloon for top level games, why waste an entire season at United? I just don’t see us getting top 5 this season. Will be a 3 transfer window turn around minimum, if the owners back the manager financially.
The Queen is arguably the most famous person in the world.
Even then when I seen Maverick there were literally little (annoying) kids in the theater.
I don't get the "Football is more accessible than movies" argument either because I've lived in socially (economically) deprived areas and there was far more access to old movies than new football.
I think in 10/15 years more people will have watched it than the champions league final (it's not as accessible in the moment but it becomes more so over time.)
People are still watching Tom Cruise movies from 40 years ago today.
They are constantly shown on Cable tv here (and in many other countries), on every streaming platform etc
How many people are going to sit down and watch any of those finals in 40 years?
Also does that mean that Modric/ Kross are more famous than Cruise because they probably had more of the ball than Ronaldo in those games?
Tom should have cashed in on that after Risky Business.
Missed opportunity.
Should have cashed in after Maverick was a hit and branded them "The Cock Pit"
Exactly, old movies are everywhere including places that don't really have electricity. People put the TV and VCR/DVD player on a battery and watch a movie with the family and some neighbours. Footballers are famous, Ronaldo is very famous but he isn't more accessible to poor areas than a Hollywood star.
I'd say the most famous people would be Putin, Elon Musk, Dwayne Johnson, Trump, Kardashian, etc. Ronaldo is of course in the top 20 something.
If we want to build a serial winner team, then we must buy top-top, ruthless, arrogant, and players who don't whine around demanding players. Obviously, Ronaldo is not happy with the current squad, he knows this squad will never win the champions league or league title. He has only 2,3 years left in his career. I think some players take his demands personally, and other players take his demand positively. I've been in a similar situation in a mid-size start-up company, It causes lot-of things. Many people naturally feel down around someone who's demanding better performance, and some people get motivated. I suspect there's already separation between players in the dressing room.
I'm afraid letting Ronaldo go won't fix anything, players will always feel inferior and blame each other when performance is much lower than the expectation. Most fans, Ralf, ETH, and some of our players know at least half of the first 11 must be changed to achieve something. Our problem is beyond Ronaldo, our real problem is there are players who feel they deserve a spot, and players who don't. And they exactly know each other, will never unite in the dressing room.
The solution is club lower the expectation and announces it publicly. Or, be ruthless and stop simping. Just replace the inferior players with top ones.
If we want to build a serial winner team, then we must buy top-top, ruthless, arrogant, and players who don't whine around demanding players. Obviously, Ronaldo is not happy with the current squad, he knows this squad will never win the champions league or league title. He has only 2,3 years left in his career. I think some players take his demands personally, and other players take his demand positively. I've been in a similar situation in a mid-size start-up company, It causes lot-of things. Many people naturally feel down around someone who's demanding better performance, and some people get motivated. I suspect there's already separation between players in the dressing room.
I'm afraid letting Ronaldo go won't fix anything, players will always feel inferior and blame each other when performance is much lower than the expectation. Most fans, Ralf, ETH, and some of our players know at least half of the first 11 must be changed to achieve something. Our problem is beyond Ronaldo, our real problem is there are players who feel they deserve a spot, and players who don't. And they exactly know each other, will never unite in the dressing room.
The solution is club lower the expectation and announces it publicly. Or, be ruthless and stop simping. Just replace the inferior players with top ones.
Kylie Jenner is the most famous person alive ???
Feck me, there is absolutely no way that is even remotely true. She's not even the most famous in that family ffs
Ronaldo is a footballer and this post is on topic.
Feck me, there is absolutely no way that is even remotely true. She's not even the most famous in that family ffs
Ronaldo is a footballer and this post is on topic.
What the hell is going on in here
I can't believe he is either.
Or more accessible than politicians (US presidents).
Or the pope.
Hey - it's important to establish who the most famous person in the world is.
(Actually - it is.)
(Also - it's clearly more fun than discussing exactly how far past his prime Ronaldo is.)
We are trying to prove that Ronaldo is a nobody in the hope that Avram or Joel Glazer reads it and sell him.
I doubt it though I think he's definitely more popular since joining Arsenal.
Yep - it's Jebus.
Or Elvis.
(Some people claim they're dead, though - so there's that).
Dead-Shmead - give me £100 and 2 hours and I'll get you one of each, easy.
Exactly - and that says it all.
No amount of Instagram followers can match that kind of fame.
Pope you say, Francis or Nick?
For some reason I chuckled when I saw Travolta in that list, he's super famous but not as global as the others you mentioned. Beckham would be more famous if he'd been around now but he missed out on the social media era.
Rimaldo is up there for caf GOAT
This thread's crazy. It's clearly Kim Jong-Un.
Ronaldo must go if he is detrimental to the team!.. The players are quality (atleast quality enough not to be beaten 4-0s). If Ronaldo is going to pull the other 10 down, then he better F-OFF. Yes our problem is beyond Ronaldo, but the man is a primadonna self serving B and has negative effect on the attitude of players. Has sabotaged the club's reputation no lesser than the idiot Lukaku did to Chelsea. We are in a rebuild and Ego-players like Ronaldo are the last thing we need. Kick him and what worse can happen than the 4-0 we had with him. I don't think we will get relegated. Instead I would rather watch ETH build from scrap without the idiot and his fan girls and do what's best for the TEAM. Have had enough of his peacock struts. A lot of people saying he is old, needs CL, etc. they are not speaking for the club. Who cares what he wants, the moment he is selling himself to other clubs, we don't care a F what he wants. He can leave, but on our terms! End OFF!
You can talk about wanting him gone.
But who is producing these leaks because they need to be gone BEFORE Ronaldo.
Rashford? Shaw? Maguire?
All three have been utter shit and I'll put money on it being Rashford.
But who is producing these leaks because they need to be gone BEFORE Ronaldo.
Rashford? Shaw? Maguire?
All three have been utter shit and I'll put money on it being Rashford.
Football is more popular than any movie and Ronaldo and Messi are pretty much the face of it. Theres is some sort visual advert (posters, banners, ads etc) featuring Ronaldo in every corner of the world.
Yes…with Trump, Justin Bieber, Kim K, Beyoncé just to name a few. ‘Ronaldo is the most famous person in the world’ is an absolute.
Tom Cruise is clearly more famous in the US than Ronaldo. But across the planet it would have to be Ronaldo. I have no metrics to back up my speculation.
Tbf I’m not into the NBA like that apart from the odd 2k match on my PlayStation when I can be bothered and even I know that people pit Lebron against him, with the latter being cited as the GOAT more often (for reference I’m 25 so this might be a generational thing)
Worst sourced journo in da game
I'm only a couple of years older. Nobody I know has LeBron above Michael Jordan.
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