Casemiro | United Player

Status
Not open for further replies.

Suv666

Full Member
Joined
Feb 11, 2016
Messages
8,803
just fecking give him us and help us out
No way this happens but if it does I'll shit my pants. Casemiro is one of the best DMs in the world right now and DMs like CBs have far longer careers.

Can easily play at the top level for 3-4 years.
 

therealtboy

New Member
Joined
Jun 21, 2013
Messages
783
Location
Dubai
Supports
Feyenoord
Brilliant player but probably past his prime. Fast becoming a retirement home for Real Madrid players. These deals never work out. He won’t have the same impact here and doubt he can play every game. I guess we are desperate. His experience will help.
Come on, he is right bang in his prime. Has another 4 years at this level. You guys see 30 and think retirement. Lewandowski is 34, Robben was 34 and playing at a high level, same with Modric and Messi and Ronaldo. Zidane, Xavi, Iniesta. These top class players can play into their mid thirties at a high level.
 

Fortitude

TV/Monitor Expert
Scout
Joined
Jul 10, 2004
Messages
23,124
Location
Inside right
He started vs Eintracht and did not vs Almeria in a game for which Ancelotti rotated heavily and changed more than half the team.

Tchouameni and Camavinga did not play well vs Almeria by the way.

Rotation seems the right logic for a season with a WC in the middle of it. This should make Madrid more interested in keeping him rather than the opposite.
The notion of getting rid of Casemiro, a bona fide, proven almost indisputable best in class midfielder before even being assured those who will eventually replace him are ready is absolutely insane. You have a serious game of any type to play and a fit Casemiro starts.

As much as I rate the two you mention (was naive enough to hope we could land them), Casemiro is the man and before that crown is taken from him, he is only going for an absolutely astronomical fee that makes sense for both parties (club and self). I think other clubs would be willing to match anything we offer - PSG and Chelsea in particular - and that ultimately, he’d have a choice to make as to where he went.

Your club is shrewd, not stupid - if we’re desperate enough to essentially pay for Tchoameni for you, you’ll probably bite our hands off, but there’d be no undercutting on a player who is so much the fabric of any important game you will play throughout the season.
 

Giggsy13

Full Member
Joined
Aug 27, 2016
Messages
4,376
Location
Toronto
I would assume it's because he has a set way to play and he knows the types of players that would fit his system. So is identifying players based off that. When the club have had a year with him, they'll know who to sign after working with him for a while. So it would then become more of a collaborative effort.
Yes, give a manager who’s primary role is to coach not scout free reign to decide targets. What could possibly go wrong?

The club moved early for ten Hag then patted themselves on the back for taking this new and fresh approach. Our DOF who led the hiring process would presumably have a good idea of how ten Hag’s teams line up and play. The fact ten Hag is reportedly drafting up the target list shows that we are repeating past failures.
 

Wednesday at Stoke

Full Member
Joined
Feb 11, 2014
Messages
21,767
Location
Copenhagen
Supports
Time Travel
This guy is suggesting we can guarantee Casemiro around 24-30M more. I'm assuming over the duration of his contract. Also says we could be interested in Asensio, depending on where things fall between Mendes and the club re: Cristiano.

 

cyberman

Full Member
Joined
May 26, 2010
Messages
37,331
He presents far more value than the ridiculous price we were after De Jong for and that was before the 17m fans were willing to throw on top
 

Lash

Full Member
Joined
May 3, 2012
Messages
12,535
Location
Buckinghamshire
Supports
Millwall, Saint-Etienne
This guy is suggesting we can guarantee Casemiro around 24-30M more. I'm assuming over the duration of his contract. Also says we could be interested in Asensio, depending on where things fall between Mendes and the club re: Cristiano.

This would be mental, it would mean we'd be paying him something like 300k a week.
 

Santos J

Full Member
Joined
Dec 8, 2013
Messages
7,378
This would be mental, it would mean we'd be paying him something like 300k a week.
Not that I think we'll sign him but if we did I'd think 300k/wk would be pretty expected and not insane.
 

Iker Quesadillas

Full Member
Joined
Mar 12, 2021
Messages
4,091
Supports
Real Madrid
Would you sell him for a very high fee? If so, how much?
I wouldn't sell him because there's a reasonable chance that both Modric and Kroos leave in a year and losing your entire 3-man midfield over the course of one season would be catastrophic.
 

Summit

"do the dead, spread your seed and get out"
Joined
Nov 10, 2011
Messages
51,054
Maybe Madrid are gonna snatch FDJ :lol:
 

Fortitude

TV/Monitor Expert
Scout
Joined
Jul 10, 2004
Messages
23,124
Location
Inside right
Am I reading this right, people in here wouldn’t want Casemiro? And are citing the cost as the reason why?

It would be one of the biggest signings of the summer for any club in the world, let alone us and our predicament!
 

Cypriot

Full Member
Joined
May 2, 2010
Messages
2,759
Location
Manchester, United Kingdom
Am I reading this right, people in here wouldn’t want Casemiro? And are citing the cost as the reason why?

It would be one of the biggest signings of the summer for any club in the world, let alone us and our predicament!
Absolutely - best in the world in his position. Yes he's not one for the future but we are in a crucial moment which could define the next 5 years for us.
 

Lash

Full Member
Joined
May 3, 2012
Messages
12,535
Location
Buckinghamshire
Supports
Millwall, Saint-Etienne

Laurencio

Full Member
Joined
Jun 21, 2017
Messages
3,236
It’s going back to the terrible transfer strategy we were trying to move away from.
Not sure if you noticed, but without significant reinforcements in midfield we will struggle to attract any talent. We were turned down by a 19 year old Slovenian in the Austrian league ffs.

Who can we bring in who is better? We don't need talents that will develop into stars, we need bona-fide fide stars - right now. Our first XI is shite, and while I would love for us to do something clever in the market, we don't have the chops for that. He is literally the best in the world is his position.

In an ideal world our recruitment team identifies targets early, approach them before the window and brings them in before pre-season, bur we are not in an ideal world. We are in a world where we lose 4-0 to Brentford who won convincingly and have a team of players who are incapable of performing under pressure.

If we can get Casemiro, we should obviously do that. Might even be enough to convince de Jong to come here. A midfield trio of de Jong, Casemiro and Eriksen/Bruno would instantly transform our midfield from one of the worst in the league to one of the best.
 

RDCR07

Not a bad guy (Whale Killer)
Joined
Aug 14, 2009
Messages
30,410
Location
Transfer Forum
We may not like to pay 50m in fees and 200k+ in wages but thats our sad situation. We need overpay in both fees and wages in order to even TRY and attract players to come to United.
 

TMDaines

Fun sponge.
Joined
Sep 1, 2014
Messages
14,030
Casemiro is just boosting his contract with Real Madrid
Got to remember how Real Madrid often operate. Lots of their key players from the outside in unglamorous positions end up leaving because they aren't afforded the galactico status and wages that other clubs may offer to lure them. He could be using us, but it could well be the case that we can make him an offer that Madrid will never match, as they are already well stocked in that position.
 

Borys

Statistics Wizard
Joined
May 10, 2013
Messages
9,179
Location
Bielsko Biala, Poland
This would be the best signing we made in years. Possibly best midfield signing since Carrick in 06/07.
This is also the first time I'm entering muppet train this summer.
 

TMDaines

Fun sponge.
Joined
Sep 1, 2014
Messages
14,030
This would be mental, it would mean we'd be paying him something like 300k a week.
Sounds about what I'd expect. World class player would expect a world class wage from a new club.
 

Lash

Full Member
Joined
May 3, 2012
Messages
12,535
Location
Buckinghamshire
Supports
Millwall, Saint-Etienne
Sounds about what I'd expect. World class player would expect a world class wage from a new club.
It's the 4 year deal I think the issue for me, I am obviously not against him as a player coming in.
 

TMDaines

Fun sponge.
Joined
Sep 1, 2014
Messages
14,030
It's the 4 year deal I think the issue for me, I am obviously not against him as a player coming in.
Ultimately, if you want a player like that in our position, you are going to have to offer a top, generous contract that provides some certainty.
 

TheLord

Full Member
Joined
Nov 25, 2018
Messages
1,719
For one, I don't think RM would be keen to let go a generational talent who is only 30 years old and has quite a few years left in his contract. If they do, it is incredible silly to suggest that we'd be shortsighted to offer a 4-year deal in the range of 300k per week. Players of his calibre don't leave the biggest club in the world with the best shot at League/CL double in the ongoing season to a club that may not offer CL for another 2 years.

The only reason players of his level would want to join the current-day United is because of money. There's no other reason (unless a local, may be).
 

TheHeya

Full Member
Joined
Mar 2, 2012
Messages
983
Other than the money why on earth would he leave Madrid for us right now?
 

bond19821982

Last Man Standing champion 2019/20
Joined
Oct 26, 2008
Messages
10,446
Location
Nnc
If we sign him, that will be a huge statement signing and a cracking one too. He will own that midfield and with Fred , Eriksen that would be a hell of an upgrade.
 

Carl

has permanently erect nipples
Joined
Mar 6, 2008
Messages
45,421
Am I reading this right, people in here wouldn’t want Casemiro? And are citing the cost as the reason why?

It would be one of the biggest signings of the summer for any club in the world, let alone us and our predicament!
It's a terrible transfer strategy and one that's bitten us several times over in the not too distant past. He would be moving to us for money and nothing else. Would end up another just coming to take a massive pay cheque.

We should be looking at players that are looking to make that next step up, the ones that will be arriving full of hunger.

It's all a pointless discussion anyway. No way this happens.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.