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Aside from that there’s no chance this happens, he’s also entirely not the player that will make a blind bit of difference to this side. Oh so he’ll win the ball back, pass it ten yards to Bruno and then he’ll go and chase the ball back again. Might as well sign a Border Collie for all the good it’ll do.
We've been crying out for a DM for years and the best one in the world won't make a blind bit of difference? Okay.
 

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We don’t have the balls to drop Bruno so assuming he plays I d rather Bruno and Eriksen play ahead of Casemiro in a 3 man midfield.
This is not a 3 man midfield though. Effectively this will be Eriksen chasing balls lost by Bruno. Bruno is a forward anyway, this is why we play 4231 not 433 etc.
I do not think having all attacking players on the pitch at the same time is the way forward anyway. Would much rather have Bruno playing every other game when Eriksen needs a rest.
 

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I'm surprised that ETH would go for a Casemiro profile player, when we have not been linked to many pure DMs at all, with the suggestion being that ETH didnt want such a player. Maybe the media reports were wrong, maybe ETH changed his mind, or maybe the club is forcing this transfer on him. Who knows.

One thing is for sure, he will add a much needed physicality to our team, that we sorely lack. Even Rangnick talked about this.
 

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I'm surprised that ETH would go for a Casemiro profile player, when we have not been linked to many pure DMs at all, with the suggestion being that ETH didnt want such a player. Maybe the media reports were wrong, maybe ETH changed his mind, or maybe the club is forcing this transfer on him. Who knows.

One thing is for sure, he will add a much needed physicality to our team, that we sorely lack. Even Rangnick talked about this.
Think he has changed his mind after seeing how open we were first two games, our best hope now is to see if we can get a CM signed next week then debut a new look partnership against Southampton on Saturday.
 

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Casemiero, Eriksen and Bruno could actually be a nice midfield three. I'm cautiously optimistic that this will actually work. Now fix our front three pretty please.
I'd have Fred in there, and Eriksen off the bench. I don't think I'd have Eriksen and Bruno on the pitch at the same time, unless Eriksen can still play on the right which I don't think he can anymore.
 

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Casemiero, Eriksen and Bruno could actually be a nice midfield three. I'm cautiously optimistic that this will actually work. Now fix our front three pretty please.
Would you fix it with RF or CF this window
 

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Bruno has been shi.t for a very long time, as well as Maguire and Rashford. They should not make the starting 11.
 

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Feels quite unreal. Now Simon Stone reporting it, it seems very close and not just a usual Marca fake news clickbait. Feels a lot like Varane move. Great player of a starting quality but I think they might feel it's a good time to cash on him and rebuild, reinvest the money. Would be funny if they bought for the same money Caiceido.

If we really pull this off I hope he can stay fit and motivated, feels weird he would want to come. Whether he's a good fit for this team, we will see but looking at the RM team and overal gameplay structure, he surely knows how to play in a team full of individuals, rather than a drilled compact unit, which I think will initially be a big advantage, as it will take a bit of time to settle with ETH's system. And he seems like an intelligent player who slots in really well doing his job at world class level. Finally we can unleash Fred as a no8 and play Eriksen further up as well.

Desperately need an attacker who on top of bringing attacking quality can press as well, so the system can be implemented and this transfer will not come to nothing but for the transition, it definitely looks better than bringing FDJ in with zero protection in midfield.

We need more combative aggressive players, now we will have Malacia, Martinez, Fred, Casemiro, perhaps we could get Sancho and Elanga on the board too and Bruno, PLUS the attacking signing. Will look much better by the end of the window, I hope...
 

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Feels quite unreal. Now Simon Stone reporting it, it seems very close and not just a usual Marca fake news clickbait. Feels a lot like Varane move. Great player of a starting quality but I think they might feel it's a good time to cash on him and rebuild, reinvest the money. Would be funny if they bought for the same money Caiceido.
They've already got his replacement in Tchoumeni. It's the advantage of being Real Madrid - everyone wants to play for them.
 

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Caicedo has played a grand total of TEN PL games and you already want us breaking the bank for him?
Never heard of that Kone fella you`re saying but people had this same logic with Soumare when he went to Leicester
And as far as I can tell Makelele joined Chelsea from Madrid at a similar age and completely changed the DM role. Fernandinho experienced the best form of his City career betweeen age 31-34 under Pep. Casemiro has a similar mileage level as Fernandinho and a proven winner. We need a mixture of young upcoming players AND players who`ve been there and done that especially in midfield where we seriously lack bite

I didn't say break the bank but if you buy Caciedo at 40m for example at a quarter of the wages, he would be a better long term fit than Casemiro considering we are rebuilding. Makelele was forced out of Madrid and was motivated to prove them wrong. In addition, he was already joining a strong team in Chelsea who had younger quality players around him. Chasing Top 4 and playing the EPL could mean Casemiro loses that 5-10% motivation to play to his best, I mean he's already assured of his retirement package from what we will be paying him. Kone is highly regarded but even him and Caciedo end up being busts, they will likely still have resale value due to them being young. We could be stuck with Casemiro's on the decline in 2 years but still be on De Gea wages. Look how much trouble we had with Sanchez, rinse and repeat
 

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Reading back the first few pages is absolutely delightful in hindsight. :lol:
 

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I wonder if we'll play a Pool style 433 or if we'll stick to the 4231. (Point facing forwards or back?)

Fred might start regardless, but

------ Eriksen ------ Fred ----
----------- Casemiro -----------

Looks nicer than

---------------- Bruno ------------------
------- Fred -------- Casemiro -----

I suspect it'll be the latter but let's see.
 

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When city signed Fernandinho he was a similar age and they got 5 good years out of him. Casemiro is a better player by far and there’s no reason he can’t do very similar to a high level. Would be an outstanding signing at any cost.
he was 3 years younger
 

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I give up, £60m for another RM cast off who is 30 years old and and already their 2nd string. I don't think this is good business but let's hope for the best.
 

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I didn't say break the bank but if you buy Caciedo at 40m for example at a quarter of the wages, he would be a better long term fit than Casemiro considering we are rebuilding. Makelele was forced out of Madrid and was motivated to prove them wrong. In addition, he was already joining a strong team in Chelsea who had younger quality players around him. Chasing Top 4 and playing the EPL could mean Casemiro loses that 5-10% motivation to play to his best, I mean he's already assured of his retirement package from what we will be paying him. Kone is highly regarded but even him and Caciedo end up being busts, they will likely still have resale value due to them being young. We could be stuck with Casemiro's on the decline in 2 years but still be on De Gea wages. Look how much trouble we had with Sanchez, rinse and repeat
Caicedo has barely kicked a ball in European football. Some of these calls for us to spend £40m, £50m on him are very likely to age terribly. He may end up being a top player with a long career, but the jury will be out for a long time on that one.
 

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They've already got his replacement in Tchoumeni. It's the advantage of being Real Madrid - everyone wants to play for them.
And not everyone who gets sold by them is some dud. They decided to sell Robben and Sneijder, but both of those guys won the Champions League with their new respective clubs before Real won their next one.
 

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Aside from that there’s no chance this happens, he’s also entirely not the player that will make a blind bit of difference to this side. Oh so he’ll win the ball back, pass it ten yards to Bruno and then he’ll go and chase the ball back again. Might as well sign a Border Collie for all the good it’ll do.
:lol:
 

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Casemiero, Eriksen and Bruno could actually be a nice midfield three. I'm cautiously optimistic that this will actually work. Now fix our front three pretty please.
Casemiro winning it back for Fernandes and Eriksen to lose it every time :drool:
 

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Bringing young players into your team is only good if you can give them 1 to 2 seasons to settle in, ideally by mixing them in with an already effective unit. That's not an option for us, we need someone who can perform immediately.

I agree that having to pony up for 30 years olds on big contracts is not what we want in an ideal world. Equally, that doesn't change where we are now. What we need is short term solutions - even ones that break the bank - in order to give ourselves time to put long term solutions in place.

That's not a good way to build a squad. We don't need short term solutions, we need long term ones. We have a new coach, so why not bring in younger players who can build into his style of play. We already brought in an older midfielder in Eriksen, so why bring in another one. We are clearly not challenging for the title in the next 3 years, so why bring in an older expensive option. Rather the younger players, even if it takes them a season or two to settle. We need to bed in a style, consistently make top 4 and then start thinking of challenging for the title. Even Madrid who like to splash cash, decided to go younger to rebuild their midfield. After selling us Varane, another expensive older recruit who turns out to have injury issues, we want to make the mistake again? PSG seem to have woken up and changed their transfer policy towards younger players, we're still the only mugs in town. We are going to wreck this club financially by having these older players on high wages.
 

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I didn't say break the bank but if you buy Caciedo at 40m for example at a quarter of the wages, he would be a better long term fit than Casemiro considering we are rebuilding. Makelele was forced out of Madrid and was motivated to prove them wrong. In addition, he was already joining a strong team in Chelsea who had younger quality players around him. Chasing Top 4 and playing the EPL could mean Casemiro loses that 5-10% motivation to play to his best, I mean he's already assured of his retirement package from what we will be paying him. Kone is highly regarded but even him and Caciedo end up being busts, they will likely still have resale value due to them being young. We could be stuck with Casemiro's on the decline in 2 years but still be on De Gea wages. Look how much trouble we had with Sanchez, rinse and repeat
Brighton will want £80m for Caciedo. They got £62m for a LB. CMs go for considerably more.
 
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