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Found myself in the horrible position of hoping democracy wins, but also knowing i'll financially benefit if Red comes out on top today as markets will almost certainly and selfishly tick upward.
This really should not be a position you ever find yourself in.....
 

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Approval ratings and polls have basically correlated with gas prices for almost a year.
And you know that if it's a GOP win then the prices will magically drop.
That's going to feel a little like Carter and Reagan with the Iran hostages all over again.
 

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And you know that if it's a GOP win then the prices will magically drop.
That's going to feel a little like Carter and Reagan with the Iran hostages all over again.
The Saudis did a deal with Trump / GOP and cut production to force the price increase. Guarantee they will open the flood gates if the GOP get back in.
 

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Just heard something mad. All votes in Arizona need to be signature verified. This is done manually by a single 2 person team.
 

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In California, there is one ballot proposition that is opposed by every political party - the Democrats, Republicans and even the Libertarians and Peace and Freedom party.

Prop. 27: Online and Mobile Sports Betting in California

A YES vote on this measure means: Licensed tribes or gambling companies could offer online sports betting over the Internet and mobile devices to people 21 years of age and older on non-tribal lands in California. Those offering online sports betting would be required to pay the state a share of sports bets made. A new state unit would be created to regulate online sports betting. New ways to reduce illegal online sports betting would be available.

A NO vote on this measure means: Sports betting would continue to be illegal in California. No changes would be made to the way state gambling laws are enforced.


Really surprised even the Libertarians and Peace and Freedom also oppose this. I'm going to vote yes on this myself.
 

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In California, there is one ballot proposition that is opposed by every political party - the Democrats, Republicans and even the Libertarians and Peace and Freedom party.

Prop. 27: Online and Mobile Sports Betting in California

A YES vote on this measure means: Licensed tribes or gambling companies could offer online sports betting over the Internet and mobile devices to people 21 years of age and older on non-tribal lands in California. Those offering online sports betting would be required to pay the state a share of sports bets made. A new state unit would be created to regulate online sports betting. New ways to reduce illegal online sports betting would be available.

A NO vote on this measure means: Sports betting would continue to be illegal in California. No changes would be made to the way state gambling laws are enforced.


Really surprised even the Libertarians and Peace and Freedom also oppose this. I'm going to vote yes on this myself.
Shocked that the libertarians would not support this. I would vote yes as well if I were in CA.
 

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@Carolina Red @Raoul @WI_Red How fecked is America going to be after these midterms? Biden wont be able to get anything done at all.
When they lose the House (almost certain to happen) that means an end to any chance of passing a single bill for 2 years. Anything the GOP passes in the house will be toxic and will not make it through the Senate, even if the GOP retakes it (50/50 chance), or will be vetoed if the GOP nukes the filibuster.

If the Dems had any backbone ( :lol: ) they would ram everything possible during the lame duck session. Marriage protections, contraceptive protection, abortion protections, anything they can bribe/threaten Manchin/Sinema to do. They won't do this because they are cowards, but they should.
 

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In California, there is one ballot proposition that is opposed by every political party - the Democrats, Republicans and even the Libertarians and Peace and Freedom party.

Prop. 27: Online and Mobile Sports Betting in California

A YES vote on this measure means: Licensed tribes or gambling companies could offer online sports betting over the Internet and mobile devices to people 21 years of age and older on non-tribal lands in California. Those offering online sports betting would be required to pay the state a share of sports bets made. A new state unit would be created to regulate online sports betting. New ways to reduce illegal online sports betting would be available.

A NO vote on this measure means: Sports betting would continue to be illegal in California. No changes would be made to the way state gambling laws are enforced.


Really surprised even the Libertarians and Peace and Freedom also oppose this. I'm going to vote yes on this myself.
This is interesting to me. I was tangentially involved with the design of new very large office building for the state of CA in Sacramento and one of the departments was slated to deal with online betting. A good sized department too. I think it's still not finished construction.
Sounds like maybe they were getting ready for what they thought/knew what was coming.
 

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When they lose the House (almost certain to happen) that means an end to any chance of passing a single bill for 2 years. Anything the GOP passes in the house will be toxic and will not make it through the Senate, even if the GOP retakes it (50/50 chance), or will be vetoed if the GOP nukes the filibuster.

If the Dems had any backbone ( :lol: ) they would ram everything possible during the lame duck session. Marriage protections, contraceptive protection, abortion protections, anything they can bribe/threaten Manchin/Sinema to do. They won't do this because they are cowards, but they should.
It's really going to feck over Ukraine. I don't think the new House will appropriate any more money to them once the GOP take over.
 

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It's really going to feck over Ukraine. I don't think the new House will appropriate any more money to them once the GOP take over.
Depends on McCarthy I think. I would bet at least 30+% of GOP house members will be pro - Ukraine which is more than enough to pass it if he allows a vote to happen.
 

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It's really going to feck over Ukraine. I don't think the new House will appropriate any more money to them once the GOP take over.
I think they will, because it would cause an unnecessary division within the House GOP at a time when McCarthy badly needs them to fall in line behind him. As it stands, he is going to have to deal with MAGA extremists in the House wanting power over certain committees, which will be his first fight once speaker.
 

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Depends on McCarthy I think. I would bet at least 30+% of GOP house members will be pro - Ukraine which is more than enough to pass it if he allows a vote to happen.
I think they will, because it would cause an unnecessary division within the House GOP at a time when McCarthy badly needs them to fall in line behind him. As it stands, he is going to have to deal with MAGA extremists in the House wanting power over certain committees, which will be his first fight once speaker.
I hope you are both correct. Would be nice if they actually had some sort of backbone.
 

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The Saudis did a deal with Trump / GOP and cut production to force the price increase. Guarantee they will open the flood gates if the GOP get back in.
It was such obvious and open interference I thought Biden would respond with something aggressive on Yemen or human rights but ... nothing. And even before that MBS has been humiliating Biden and the state dept. Which of the two is the client state?!?
 

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I'm having what he's drinking. Keep positive.
 
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Found myself in the horrible position of hoping democracy wins, but also knowing i'll financially benefit if Red comes out on top today as markets will almost certainly and selfishly tick upward.
As we have seen during the Trump years though, the sight of markets going upward is not exactly the best indicator of how healthy one's finances are.

On both sides of the border, I see people (mostly on the right side of the political spectrum) complaining about this or that about the inflation without considering the reality in other countries. If people want that inflation gone ASAP, would they be ready to accept 1) the government to very tightly control prices, 2) the population to be still ageing fast and 3) negative interests rates are maintained - all at the same time? I'm sure they would not like any of those in the context that they love free economy, but that is the reality that explains why Japan has only maintained a 3% inflation rate.

Also it could be worse like in Turkey or in some countries in Europe. One thing I wish more North Americans to understand is that they cannot always expect the road to not be bumpy.
 

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I'm having what he's drinking. Keep positive.
I hope, I hope.

The real key is in the turnout. If minorities and the youth come out in numbers in those key battleground states, Democrats have a really good chance with the Senate.
 

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I'm having what he's drinking. Keep positive.
He is basing this on what exactly?

Fetterman could beat Oz and GA could wind up a run off which would technically make him correct until the results of the run off. A lot of IFs involved though.
 

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By the time I wake up tomorrow, how fecked is your country going to be?
Depends on your gender/race/sexual orientation/religion/economic class I suppose. Us white straight Christians men are going to be set up sweet no matter what, which is depressing as feck. If we lose the House (almost certainty) then say goodby to any legislative protections for any minority classification in the above list and hello to non stop "investigations" and impeachment trials. If we lose the Senate as well (50/50), and the GOP nukes the filibuster, say goodbye to everything that Biden can't veto. Chaos.
 

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Depends on your gender/race/sexual orientation/religion/economic class I suppose. Us white straight Christians men are going to be set up sweet no matter what, which is depressing as feck. If we lose the House (almost certainty) then say goodby to any legislative protections for any minority classification in the above list and hello to non stop "investigations" and impeachment trials. If we lose the Senate as well (50/50), and the GOP nukes the filibuster, say goodbye to everything that Biden can't veto. Chaos.
Am I right in saying that the only way to get a bill past a presidential veto would be a 2/3rd's majority in both congress and the senate? So nothing too extreme could override the veto I would think as it would need to be bipartisan?
 

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Early returns in Virginia, especially the 2nd & 7th districts, are touted to be bellwethers for the rest of the returns.

Should be an interesting upcoming month.
Virginia 2nd., 7th., & 10th. results will tell us a bunch about how big the win will be for Rs in the House, turnout numbers will help understand how the Senate will fare.
 

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Virginia 2nd., 7th., & 10th. results will tell us a bunch about how big the win will be for Rs in the House, turnout numbers will help understand how the Senate will fare.
As someone in Maryland but in the same DC broadcast area, we were inundated with ads over the last 2 months with the 7th and 10th CD's and they were horrific. I am so glad this election is over just to not be bombarded with that nonsense. The ones against Spanberger (D) were particularly annoying.
 

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As someone in Maryland but in the same DC broadcast area, we were inundated with ads over the last 2 months with the 7th and 10th CD's and they were horrific. I am so glad this election is over just to not be bombarded with that nonsense. The ones against Spanberger (D) were particularly annoying.
I don’t have cable / watch local television, but it was jarring when I got on my favorite stream which showed NFL broadcasts stolen from around the country & saw just how many entireties of commercial blocks were all campaign ads. Unreal.
 

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Will the NYT needles make an appearance tonight or are they just trotted out for presidential elections?
 

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Pretty sure they abandoned them completely after the Hillary fiasco.
They were front & center for the last presidential election. They were commented upon innumerable times in the 2020 election thread after the absurdity of discussing bookies’ odds on Trump mercifully faded away.
 

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OFFICIAL - first poll reporting, the massive Dixfield Notch, NH numbers…

4/5 voted for Sununu for governor (fifth vote went to the Dem)

5/5 voted for Hassan for senator
 

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When they lose the House (almost certain to happen) that means an end to any chance of passing a single bill for 2 years. Anything the GOP passes in the house will be toxic and will not make it through the Senate, even if the GOP retakes it (50/50 chance), or will be vetoed if the GOP nukes the filibuster.

If the Dems had any backbone ( :lol: ) they would ram everything possible during the lame duck session. Marriage protections, contraceptive protection, abortion protections, anything they can bribe/threaten Manchin/Sinema to do. They won't do this because they are cowards, but they should.
Hard to argue with any of that. After they voter suppress the feck out of the 2024 election that will be the end of American democracy!