What can we do to boycott the oil clubs?

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Chelsea, City, PSG, and now Newcastle are the play toys of oil barons, ruining our game for the sake of sports washing. It has gone on long enough and I’m sure I’m not the only fan who is sick of it.
We saw the country-wide aversion to the ESL - protests ensued and a week later it was scrapped. Fans have the power right now.

What can fans of all the proper teams do to tell the oil-money sports washers to f*ck off?

Here a few ideas off the top of my head:
  • When an oil club visits your stadium - don’t buy tickets. It’ll just be a sad medley of away fans going “wheeeeeeey” while they 8-0 your team
  • Come up with some universal chants for EVERY clubs fans to sing while they play them - drown out their plastic home fans with “you can shove your oil money up your arse” so loud that the sky and BT microphones can’t ignore it
  • All that hate Ronaldo, Maguire and Rashford get? Why not just hurl that abuse on social media at Sheikh Mansour, Saudi Arabia and any other oligarch scumbag who blatantly cooks the books and ruins our beautiful sport instead.

If us fans pull together our voices can be heard
Let’s make a change before it’s too late.
If not we’ll just be faced with Abu Dhabi FC vs Saudi Arabia's Women Beheadders for the UCL every year until the end of time.
 

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When an oil club visits your stadium - don’t buy tickets. It’ll just be a sad medley of away fans going “wheeeeeeey” while they 8-0 your team
Freiburg fans recently, boycotted the RB Leipzig game, and bought tickets to see their 2nd team play 1860 München instead, then the two sets of fans sang 'Scheiss Red Bull' together.

 

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Freiburg fans recently, boycotted the RB Leipzig game, and bought tickets to see their 2nd team play 1860 München instead, then the two sets of fans sang 'Scheiss Red Bull' together.

This is great.
as fans, we have been too passive with this I feel. I really think if we just banded together and showed these oil states that we don’t fall for their shitty PR stunts, we could force them out of our sport and onto some other plaything
 

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Boycott oil, petrol, diesel, baby oil, olive oil
Hurr durr don’t go forgetting jojoba oil, canola oil and the oil which floats to the top of your toilet water when you’ve flushed a turd after eating a doner kebab oil, fellow intellectual.
 

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We can start exposing it during games. Even if it changes nothing, it's awesome to hear thousands coming together and voice their concerns - like this game from Denmark with two sets of fan groups voicing concerns over WC in Qatar. The same can be done re. dubious clubs.
 

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Can barely get rid of the Glazers let alone oil clubs. Good luck
 

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Can barely get rid of the Glazers let alone oil clubs. Good luck
The fans thwarted the ESL after a week of protests.
I imagine a similar scale protest against these lot on the regular would eventually have the same outcome.
Imagine from their perspective, they’ve pumped all this money into clubs, competitions and events yet the layman still sees right through their shit.
I think now is the time to act while they are in the minority as you can’t expect the City and Newcastle fans to be out there protesting.
Something needs to happen before they buy up Liverpool, Arsenal or god forbid, United
 

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I would hazard a guess that the vast majority of people here don’t go to football matches so it’s all kind of pointless really.

Unless you plan on protesting via your live internet streams. If so, god speed!
 

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10-15 years too late? I also can't see these owners giving much of a toss even if all of the above was done, to be honest. Has it made Red Bull or Dietmar Hopp go away?
 

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Hey! Don’t judge us by your own fans morals!
I don't need to judge, the fact no one mentions AC Milan and their over 2 decades of being funded by Berlusconi is all the evidence I need that the goalposts will move if/when this happens to a historically big club.
 

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I don't need to judge, the fact no one mentions AC Milan and their over 2 decades of being funded by Berlusconi is all the evidence I need that the goalposts will move if/when this happens to a historically big club.
Nah. Some do have morals. Even more so at the big proper clubs that have seen success before.
 

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I think the problem with the oil clubs/ owners is that the vast majority of fans would love to be bought by them so you will never really get any traction.

Kind of like how society worships the billionaires instead.

If Liverpool get bought by an oil club it will be entertaining to see how many will stick by their previous statements against such regimes... I'd bet not many.

Although I would enjoy if the guys on RedMen actually stuck to their guns and went out of business so I never have to see that Paul cnut again.
 

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Nah. Some do have morals. Even more so at the big proper clubs that have seen success before.
I mean if that's your opinion fair enough.

I assume on this basis you will also not be watching a single minute of this world cup and were outraged every time Milan lifted Serie A and big ears in the 90s and 00s?
 

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OP is about 20 years too late.

Owners of one of those OIL ClUBS just bought the rights to host the biggest tournament in football and not a single feck has been given by the corrupt wankers running the game.
 

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Nah. Some do have morals. Even more so at the big proper clubs that have seen success before.
Not gonna lie, I have seen loads Liverpool fans make the argument that them being an oil club isn't as bad as City/PSG because they were actually good before this takeover.
 

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I mean if that's your opinion fair enough.

I assume on this basis you will also not be watching a single minute of this world cup and were outraged every time Milan lifted Serie A and big ears in the 90s and 00s?
Yes. I wrote strongly worded letters to everyone involved.
 

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Not gonna lie, I have seen loads Liverpool fans make the argument that them being an oil club isn't as bad as City/PSG because they were actually good before this takeover.
Yep. Have no issue with people who's stance is blanket and would equally turn on historic clubs including their own and won't be watching the world cup, amoung other things.

However that is clearly not the case for a significant number and when asked about it (as we've literally just seen) we see a level of deflection or question dodge that would make even Boris and Sunak wince.
 

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Yep. Have no issue with people who's stance is blanket and would equally turn on historic clubs including their own and won't be watching the world cup, amoung other things.

However that is clearly not the case for a significant number and when asked about it (as we've literally just seen) we see a level of deflection or question dodge that would make even Boris and Sunak wince.
How many people boycotted watching Man Utd play PSG/City in the Champs league ? I f you feel so strongly you should also boycott these games.
 

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Chelsea, City, PSG, and now Newcastle are the play toys of oil barons, ruining our game for the sake of sports washing. It has gone on long enough and I’m sure I’m not the only fan who is sick of it.
We saw the country-wide aversion to the ESL - protests ensued and a week later it was scrapped. Fans have the power right now.

What can fans of all the proper teams do to tell the oil-money sports washers to f*ck off?

Here a few ideas off the top of my head:
  • When an oil club visits your stadium - don’t buy tickets. It’ll just be a sad medley of away fans going “wheeeeeeey” while they 8-0 your team
  • Come up with some universal chants for EVERY clubs fans to sing while they play them - drown out their plastic home fans with “you can shove your oil money up your arse” so loud that the sky and BT microphones can’t ignore it
  • All that hate Ronaldo, Maguire and Rashford get? Why not just hurl that abuse on social media at Sheikh Mansour, Saudi Arabia and any other oligarch scumbag who blatantly cooks the books and ruins our beautiful sport instead.

If us fans pull together our voices can be heard
Let’s make a change before it’s too late.
If not we’ll just be faced with Abu Dhabi FC vs Saudi Arabia's Women Beheadders for the UCL every year until the end of time.
I think you should make songs against all the western governments including our own who love to sell arms to Saudi Arabia and Dubai, and then boycott all the global companies who make tons of money in these countries. Let`s not forget all the ex pats who live and work there making these countries there home. I see lot`s of football stars love visiting Dubai, in fact I'm sure some of our class of `92 invested in real estate in Dubai and once Saudi finish their NEOM project people will be rushing there too. The future is bleak whilst there is greed and fans just happy with the success of their club regardless of who owns it. I remember Chelsea fans supporting Abramovich whilst Ukraine was been bombed and Geordies dressing up as Arabs. Unless the authorities stop these people from buying football clubs there is very little we can do.
 

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If footballs governing bodies had any morals at all they could just simply uninvite them from their competitions.

They could simply change the goalposts so the rules worked in such a way that this couldn't be challenged and just not answer the phone when CAS rings.

And to show there are no hard feelings, we could set up a league especially for those clubs to play in. It's a crude idea and the fans might claim were oil against them, but I think it's quite slick.
 

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Unless FIFA and Uefa step in and ban Nations from owning clubs there is very little we can do. Protests and boycotts may make you feel better but it won't have much impact on the oil barons. I doubt the British Government will get involved, how do you ban Arab investment in football but not other areas of the economy ? How do you justify buying their oil and selling them arms but don't allow them in football?
 

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Some people have a very simplistic view of the 'owners' of city and newcastle, such as this guy on a BBC 'have your say' after a recent magpies win.

" Speaking as a City fan, well done Newcastle! To the peeps who keep going on about oil etc.etc. If you don't like it, sell your cars & buy electric or walk! Complaining about owner who have made their fortune with oil then filling up at the petrol station is Hypocrisy of the highest order since you are funding them! "

He makes it sound as if the owners are individuals who worked their ways up the ranks from cleaning windscreens in a garage forecourt.
 

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Yep. Have no issue with people who's stance is blanket and would equally turn on historic clubs including their own and won't be watching the world cup, amoung other things.

However that is clearly not the case for a significant number and when asked about it (as we've literally just seen) we see a level of deflection or question dodge that would make even Boris and Sunak wince.
And @WeePat too

I always get the feeling of whataboutery from Chelsea fans when this rears it’s head.

I get it though. The majority of Chelsea fans, including those here, worshipped Abramovich. In fact many probably only know the club since he took over, especially younger fans.

The reaction and support Abramovich got at games during the Ukraine war was pretty intense too and highlighted how much he was loved by the fanbase.

If that’s your stance on things it is fine but it doesn’t mean everyone else’s would be nor does mentioning watching the World Cup make up for it.
 

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@TheReligion is a fine one to talk and would be wanking himself off if Glazers sold their stake to a person or group that will spend billions despite being corrupt and having a terrible human rights record eg. the Greater Manchester Police.
 

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@TheReligion is a fine one to talk and would be wanking himself off if Glazers sold their stake to a person or group that will spend billions despite being corrupt and having a terrible human rights record eg. the Greater Manchester Police.
You are suggesting GMP as a potential buyer for Manchester United?

Mind blown :eek:
 

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And @WeePat too

I always get the feeling of whataboutery from Chelsea fans when this rears it’s head.

I get it though. The majority of Chelsea fans, including those here, worshipped Abramovich. In fact many probably only know the club since he took over, especially younger fans.

The reaction and support Abramovich got at games during the Ukraine war was pretty intense too and highlighted how much he was loved by the fanbase.

If that’s your stance on things it is fine but it doesn’t mean everyone else’s would be nor does mentioning watching the World Cup make up for it.
Literally just told you what I’ve seen Liverpool fans say which directly addresses your point about fans who have seen success before just being different. That isn’t whataboutery. That’s a direct response to something you said. I said nothing about Chelsea or Abramovich.
 

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Literally just told you what I’ve seen Liverpool fans say which directly addresses your point about fans who have seen success before just being different. That isn’t whataboutery. That’s a direct response to something you said. I said nothing about Chelsea or Abramovich.
I did say ‘some’ have morals and I do think that’s more of the case at clubs like United and Liverpool than say City, Chelsea and Newcastle.

Desperation for success can do that.
 

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So, first, there is ZERO wrong with being super rich. Vilifying the ultra wealthy just makes people seem jealous and petty.

There is also nothing wrong with making that money from the energy sector. If you were one of the major stakeholders in Exxon… good for you, congratulations on your success.

The BIG complaint, and the place you could get real traction, is having rules related to ownership by nation states. If any or part of the ownership group has access to the printing and creation of currency, or making foreign policy …. Then that is a totally different level of discussion.

It should be noted though …. Again … that Man United have actually outspent City. Most of the rest of us didn’t over the last 5 years, but United did.

So money wasn’t the issue. City are extremely well run. Their academy system is excellent, their executive structure is consistent and excellent. By all accounts they have simply been a better place to work with a better plan.

If over the next 5 years Chelsea outspend City and United, and our plan totally flops. We will have ourselves to blame, not the method by which our opponents made money.

The exception to this: PSG. They are throwing the scale of the entire UEFA, FFP, and League based system out of whack. They, along with the financial issues in Spain, could be the primary threat of a Superleague forming. And it comes down to the wages, contracts, and agent fee relationships. More than City, they are using actual state power to engage players in contracts that are literally impossible for any other team (including City, Madrid, etc) to match. Players can essentially become stuck there to a degree.

Why PSG as the issue and not City? Because of what we all know and simply don’t acknowledge: France is the dirtiest actor in world football. When our FBI did their raids and crackdowns, the list of indictable characters was a who’s who of French footballing figures. City doesn’t do the same things with their powers because, as an English team, they wouldn’t be allowed to at the extremes PSG is in terms of leeway.

UEFA needs to be fumigated and burned to the ground. The lack of cooperation with US authorities in what was a rock solid investigation was sad.

If you do that, and make a sensible rule that owners can have zero ties whatsoever to state governments (no making your limo driver the front of a consortium), you could fix a lot of issues.