Pretty sure that's the premise of what we do here. We share our feelings and thoughts.Can people stop saying this shit? You are not better than other people and you don't get to tell them how to feel and act on those feelings, you can't make everyone here feel and think like you, you feel like you can empathize with the dude but others think he is a cnut, just stop.
Empathy for what?Pretty sure that's the premise of what we do here. We share our feelings and thoughts.
If you don't like perspectives different to yours you can simply say no thank you. No one's forcing anyone, because it's a free world and this is the internet. But I can certainly try to influence your thoughts through my words. Don't disagree he's a c word, in fact you're pretty spot on. But why does that prevent you from showing some empathy? It's not mutually exclusive in my perspective.
Sorry but painting Ronaldo as someone who has been doing United a favour in his two stints is pretty laughable, especially the part about sacrificing his legacy for us.I know most people are pissed at Ronaldo and venting. But i'll challenge us to see this situation differently.
Is this the best way for him to act? No. But he's dealing with a lot. He lost his child and finds himself falling from grace. It's a lot to deal with. The least we can do as fans is be understanding and empathetic. I'm not saying excuse what he's doing, but do remember that this is one of the players who has brought us the most joy in a United shirt.
He could have left, but stayed an extra year when SAF asked. He could have joined City to score 40 goals and cement his CL legacy, but out of respect for SAF and us he didn't. He knew he was sacrificing that personal legacy for us (anyone with a brain could see things going poorly for us). I'm not saying that the way he acts makes him the most loyal and faithful player, but in the end, he doesn't owe us anything. It's his career and rights. We all leave jobs for better opportunities. Other players (Pogba cough cough...) have done far worse.
Should we sink to his level and crucify him publically? I would argue no, and challenge you to just empathize and ignore his antics. It will be dealt with by ETH like SAF handled all those who dared to put themselves above the team. As Ariana Grande said best "thank you, NEXT".
It was Piers fecking Morgan who kept bringing Rooney into the conversation and clearly putting Ronaldo in a position where he was getting manipulated into agreeing with him. As I’ve said before, had the interview been done in Portuguese, Ronaldo would definitely have responded differently. He admitted he still needs to improve on his English in the “interview”.Class.
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If Ronaldo doesn't want to be put in such a situation he could simply not choose to do an interview with renowned stirrer Piers Morgan...It was Piers fecking Morgan who kept bringing Rooney into the conversation and clearly putting Ronaldo in a position where he was getting manipulated into agreeing with him. As I’ve said before, had the interview been done in Portuguese, Ronaldo would definitely have responded differently. He admitted he still needs to improve on his English in the “interview”.
No excuses. He wanted that interview in that form and no matter what, he chose his words intentionally.It was Piers fecking Morgan who kept bringing Rooney into the conversation and clearly putting Ronaldo in a position where he was getting manipulated into agreeing with him. As I’ve said before, had the interview been done in Portuguese, Ronaldo would definitely have responded differently. He admitted he still needs to improve on his English in the “interview”.
He's 37, a grown man, not a 10 year old kid ffs. It's time he acted his age for once.I know most people are pissed at Ronaldo and venting. But i'll challenge us to see this situation differently.
Is this the best way for him to act? No. But he's dealing with a lot. He lost his child and finds himself falling from grace. It's a lot to deal with. The least we can do as fans is be understanding and empathetic. I'm not saying excuse what he's doing, but do remember that this is one of the players who has brought us the most joy in a United shirt.
He could have left, but stayed an extra year when SAF asked. He could have joined City to score 40 goals and cement his CL legacy, but out of respect for SAF and us he didn't. He knew he was sacrificing that personal legacy for us (anyone with a brain could see things going poorly for us). I'm not saying that the way he acts makes him the most loyal and faithful player, but in the end, he doesn't owe us anything. It's his career and rights. We all leave jobs for better opportunities. Other players (Pogba cough cough...) have done far worse.
Should we sink to his level and crucify him publically? I would argue no, and challenge you to just empathize and ignore his antics. It will be dealt with by ETH like SAF handled all those who dared to put themselves above the team. As Ariana Grande said best "thank you, NEXT".
He couldn't have left a year early, he was under contract and United absolutely weren't selling that summer. What SAF did was a common management skill to motivate a team member and negotiate an understanding. I don't think he was sacrificing his legacy staying at United, I'd anything Madrid was the risky move given that Barcelona were dominant in La Liga. In fact his first few seasons at Madrid he and Madrid underachieved winning just 1 Ka Liga and 1 Copa del Rey in the first 4 seasons. With City, if he joined them at some point the fall out with Pep would have been enormous, as Pep would have more frequently dropped him than any United manager has done.He could have left, but stayed an extra year when SAF asked. He could have joined City to score 40 goals and cement his CL legacy, but out of respect for SAF and us he didn't. He knew he was sacrificing that personal legacy for us (anyone with a brain could see things going poorly for us). I'm not saying that the way he acts makes him the most loyal and faithful player, but in the end, he doesn't owe us anything. It's his career and rights. We all leave jobs for better opportunities. Other players (Pogba cough cough...) have done far worse.
Should we sink to his level and crucify him publically? I would argue no, and challenge you to just empathize and ignore his antics. It will be dealt with by ETH like SAF handled all those who dared to put themselves above the team. As Ariana Grande said best "thank you, NEXT".
All I’m saying is Piers Morgan took full advantage and knew exactly what he was doing. Ronaldo was very naive.If Ronaldo doesn't want to be put in such a situation he could simply not choose to do an interview with renowned stirrer Piers Morgan...
I'm not surprised you're pretending you can't.I’m not surprised you are the one that can’t comprehend it actually..
There was no need to label Rooney as a rat. Also note that Ronaldo chose piers Morgan to do his interview withIt was Piers fecking Morgan who kept bringing Rooney into the conversation and clearly putting Ronaldo in a position where he was getting manipulated into agreeing with him. As I’ve said before, had the interview been done in Portuguese, Ronaldo would definitely have responded differently. He admitted he still needs to improve on his English in the “interview”.
Rooney has played this one perfectly, no need to go to the Ronaldo and other cnuts level.Class.
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Oh but the cult will try to convince you he didn't call Rooney a rat. Mental gymnastics.There was no need to label Rooney as a rat. Also note that Ronaldo chose piers Morgan to do his interview with
Ronaldo is a grown up person. It was his decision to make an interview and although Morgan manipulated him its his responsibility and his responsibility only for the things he said.It was Piers fecking Morgan who kept bringing Rooney into the conversation and clearly putting Ronaldo in a position where he was getting manipulated into agreeing with him. As I’ve said before, had the interview been done in Portuguese, Ronaldo would definitely have responded differently. He admitted he still needs to improve on his English in the “interview”.
Italian playmaker. Got a lovely left foot.Who is psycholo?
It's not surprising. I would argue most people driven to true greatness suffer from one of the big personality disorders and Ronaldo (Homelander as well of course, as written) CLEARLY has the highest possible degree of Narcissistic Personality Disorder. The way that Ronaldo sees the world simply can't be the same as the way WE see the world. To borrow mayoclinics symptoms, how many of these would anyone argue DONT' apply to Ronaldo?I've been binge watching "The Boys" this week, and I finished it last night, and just now I watched the 2 parts interview, in some moments he really sounded like Homelander! yikes
He really comes across well in a lot of interviews I've seen of him since he became a manager.Rooney has played this one perfectly, no need to go to the Ronaldo and other cnuts level.
Always loved him as a player but he's gone up in my estimation since he hanged his boots.
How?I know most people are pissed at Ronaldo and venting. But i'll challenge us to see this situation differently.
Is this the best way for him to act? No. But he's dealing with a lot. He lost his child and finds himself falling from grace. It's a lot to deal with. The least we can do as fans is be understanding and empathetic. I'm not saying excuse what he's doing, but do remember that this is one of the players who has brought us the most joy in a United shirt.
He could have left, but stayed an extra year when SAF asked. He could have joined City to score 40 goals and cement his CL legacy, but out of respect for SAF and us he didn't. He knew he was sacrificing that personal legacy for us (anyone with a brain could see things going poorly for us). I'm not saying that the way he acts makes him the most loyal and faithful player, but in the end, he doesn't owe us anything. It's his career and rights. We all leave jobs for better opportunities. Other players (Pogba cough cough...) have done far worse.
Should we sink to his level and crucify him publically? I would argue no, and challenge you to just empathize and ignore his antics. It will be dealt with by ETH like SAF handled all those who dared to put themselves above the team. As Ariana Grande said best "thank you, NEXT".
The reason everyone thinks it's so bad is because you don't do this kind of thing when your under contract with a club, it's gross misconduct, simple as that. If any player had done it we'd all be up in arms about it too, it's not just because it's Ronaldo.Well I finished listening to the whole interview, wasn’t even half as bad/controversy as it was made out to be. It’s more a case of him speaking out his own feelings, in a honest manner but also in childish way. Some of the things he shouldn’t said in public but it seems he couldn’t care less. Basically he is narcissistic superstar who is finding it hard to deal with his own decline, he needs more support during his hard time and more respect to his ego, and he thinks he deserves those. People going to ridicule him on that of course.
He doesn't owe us anything? Mate, we're giving him £500k a week to stink the place out. I don't care that he used to be great for us, what is he doing for us now? Apart from undermining our revival because he can't deal with his own decline. Can't wait for him to be somebody else's problem.He could have left, but stayed an extra year when SAF asked. He could have joined City to score 40 goals and cement his CL legacy, but out of respect for SAF and us he didn't. He knew he was sacrificing that personal legacy for us (anyone with a brain could see things going poorly for us). I'm not saying that the way he acts makes him the most loyal and faithful player, but in the end, he doesn't owe us anything. It's his career and rights. We all leave jobs for better opportunities. Other players (Pogba cough cough...) have done far worse.
Absolutely. A classy, mature response from Rooney.Rooney has played this one perfectly, no need to go to the Ronaldo and other cnuts level.
Always loved him as a player but he's gone up in my estimation since he hanged his boots.
Deep down he's probably seething and having to control his mouth. But yeah he's done well.Rooney has played this one perfectly, no need to go to the Ronaldo and other cnuts level.
Always loved him as a player but he's gone up in my estimation since he hanged his boots.
I've seen the full interview now, didn't say much that I disagreed with. It's only fair to have his voice heard, I doubt there were many other alternative channels for that.
I'm not a Ronaldo fan boy, I wanted him out before this but you have to respect his knowledge and experience.
Obviously thought he should have been given 100 lines to do. 'I will not disrespect by manager and teammates by walking out'.its mental he went home stunned and victimised about being suspended for 3 DAYS, after refusing to come on and walking out.
He wants the club to sack him / cancel his contract. He knows exactly what he's doing.The problem with this interview is, nothing of significance came out. I don't see the point of the interview.
The only thing he's managed to achieve is, get people to turn on him. Sad.
He wants the club to sack him / cancel his contract. He knows exactly what he's doing.
The worrying thing is Ronaldo will probably be feeling like he’s come out of this really well. He’ll be deluded enough to think the fans are behind him because he threw the Glazers stuff in.I can't understand the point of all this except him wanting out and making himself hard to keep. When you think you are bigger then the club, it is no point keeping you.
As I previously said, no problem. He should leave but only in the way that benifits the club. Just letting him go and pay him is out of question according to me. Let him find a club (he said so many are intrested) and let that club pay us.
He will get a thank you for memories and good luck.
