That's a sentence I can't wrap my head around. What's her name?
That's a sentence I can't wrap my head around. What's her name?
I can see it
Enjoyed the first two seasons. Can't believe the rubbish that was the third season.Pretty much the same attitude to this series as I had to the books fwicr (or at least the abridged graphic novel version of the books I read!) - enjoyed the world building and character intrigue of the first two, but very quickly zoned out of the impenetrable lore of the third.
What did you dislike about the third season?Enjoyed the first two seasons. Can't believe the rubbish that was the third season.
I couldn't Adam and Eve what I watched.What did you dislike about the third season?
I understood this post as much as I understood Klopp's tactics against Brighton.I couldn't Adam and Eve what I watched.
Not having watched the third season yet, but based on books (IIRC):Fair enough @Rooney in Paris . You obviously know a lot more about this then I do. For example I only just recently found out this was based off of books. I agree books usually give the necessary background which you just can't on screen, even successful adaptations.
Taking all this into account I found the third season watchable but ultimately preachy, which it was always going to be once the angels had manifested.
There's this dark angel (Authority) but where's his power from? Who created him? Why is he so ridiculously easy to kill by two humans? Then death is just a trip to an underground lair. Which you can now escape thanks to the knife. To go where? To be at one with the universe? To un-exist? To 'heaven'? Is there heaven and hell?
Where is God in all of this? Or is that the point? They're is none? Just beings, some more powerful than others, who came about and will eventually stop existing once the universe ends?
I think I missed too much and it's not really interested me enough to find out more. On to the next thing.
Yeah I understand all that, and while I "know a lot more about this" than you do cos I read the books, I do think that the show should be self-sufficient, and reading your post, I think there's definitely a case to be made for saying they skipped over too much in terms of back story/universe building (which wasn't a particularly big issue for me cos I knew the story, but is not great otherwise).Fair enough @Rooney in Paris . You obviously know a lot more about this then I do. For example I only just recently found out this was based off of books. I agree books usually give the necessary background which you just can't on screen, even successful adaptations.
Taking all this into account I found the third season watchable but ultimately preachy, which it was always going to be once the angels had manifested.
There's this dark angel (Authority) but where's his power from? Who created him? Why is he so ridiculously easy to kill by two humans? Then death is just a trip to an underground lair. Which you can now escape thanks to the knife. To go where? To be at one with the universe? To un-exist? To 'heaven'? Is there heaven and hell?
Where is God in all of this? Or is that the point? They're is none? Just beings, some more powerful than others, who came about and will eventually stop existing once the universe ends?
I think I missed too much and it's not really interested me enough to find out more. On to the next thing.
Yeah I agree there, and actually I reread the books a couple of years ago and had one of those realisations that it’s a YA book and going back as an adult you realise there’s many flaws.The 3rd season just became a slodge of impenetrable mythos that I ultimately just didn’t care about at all…. Granted it was a decent stab at a book adaptation, but a slodge of impenetrable mythos is a lot easier to digest in a book.
This. I remember reading those pages as a teenager and realising what was coming, and refusing to believe it and feeling really distraught by it for a while afterwardsThat being said it will always hold a special place for me as the way Lyra and Wills personal story ends with each other was probably my first “tragic” ending between characters of my age that I could relate to, it’s always stuck with me how cruel it felt when I was at a certain age.
It's what makes the final book work too. The final book is pretty high concept I'd say and is dealing with all manner of philosophical ideas and is running on several often fairly odd narrative strands some of which are exposition heavy and lots of significant events happen "off camera". It needed another edit at least, something I read Pullman conceding, and was always going to struggle to be adapted to screen in a way that didn't highlight these flaws, but it's Will and Lyra and their hearbreaking ending that holds it all together and makes it work. I think the TV show, as you say, adapted it about as well as is possible in that medium but it couldn't mask the book's challenges.Yeah the actual low key personal ending for them was good.