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Cold War against China?
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It was a waste of time all along. Change my mind.
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I saw this movie, I thought it was bullshit.
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I don't blame Cuba. The US has brought this upon themselves for not seeking to normalise relations and trade with them.
And I'm not anti-US, I am more likely to support them than most.
And I'm not anti-US, I am more likely to support them than most.
Seems fair.
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It's an understatement. If anything happens to those activists, I swear there will be diplomatic fallout.
It's not without reminding me the case of a former Vietnamese oil executive, who got kidnapped in Germany in 2017 and then was taken against his will to Vietnam, where he was sentenced to life in prison for corruption (horseshit umbrella-type charge to get rid of people deemed undesirable by the government). Germany don't maintain diplomatic relations with Vietnam anymore because of that.
China has been trying to do similar things in the US. There was a great ProPublica story about it, and three men were convicted a couple weeks ago in related cases. They don't kidnap people, but they coerce them into returning to China. In one case, they brought a victim's ailing grandparent on a flight to the US from China as leverage to try to force him to return to China to face criminal charges.
https://www.propublica.org/article/...sing-a-network-of-spies-hidden-in-plain-sight
https://apnews.com/article/china-re...ial-new-york-01f96f6952e772efb5814c12316922dc
Haven't seen that kind of stuff since the heyday of the KGB, that's for sure.
What a crock of shit of a comment by that old fool.
Japan, South Korea and Taiwan don't give a feck about China to revitalize Asia. Japan has been and still is the largest investor in Southeast Asia for the last 3 decades, before South Korea and Taiwan also joined the party.
well the US has bombed both japan and korea. so…..
Caring about human rights and individual freedoms doesn't make you a westerner.
Well, maybe you should review a few centuries of what japan-china-koreas had been doing to themselves
i did. so what about it?
That they have much more reasons to hate each other than the US, maybe?
They don't dare in the US, but they sure as shit kidnap people in other countries. They've been at it for years with their secret police stations.
so? what does that have to do with the US bombing both countries?
Ok. Now you are playing dumb. Im out
explain it to me then. what does the animosity between those countries have to do with the US bombing both of them?
the original comment (to which you replied) is about a supposed korea-china-japan common front. they have long-standing issues for literally hundreds of years before US bombs.
So...? Make your point.
yeah but how does that make aligning with the US which bombed both countries the solution?
And caring about human rights and individual freedoms lead to a better chance at accountability. The more I see the countless videos that Winston Sterzel shares on Twitter to show the kind of unempathetic and unaccountable society that China has become, the more I'm thankful that other East Asian countries took a very different path as their own respective societies. It's almost the same contrast as the existing one between Putin's Russia and most of the rest of Europe. Really sad.
it simply means there is no baseline reason a japan-korea-china front is more natural than a japan-korea-us front
not really. because the damage US has done to korea doesn’t even come close to the historic conflict between these nations.
yes, the us destroyed all buildings and killed a sixth of the population ... of north korea, not south korea.
japanese activity in both china and korea up till ww2 was quite barbaric. at least when i was there, (admittedly, a while ago) anti-japanese sentiment was a lot more common in china than anti-US sentiment.
how many tons of napalm did the japanese drop? just to be clear because you seem to drawing a false equivalency between both events.