Mason Mount's Misfortune

SuperiorXI

Full Member
Joined
Jan 8, 2012
Messages
14,694
Location
Manchester, England
Will the no. on the back of his jersey really add pressure for him? He doesn't play with it on backwards.
Of course it will. It's got history behind it, whether posters like it or not players with the #7 at United have added pressure from many fans/media/opposition.
 

OverratedOpinion

Full Member
Joined
Sep 4, 2017
Messages
6,512
The fact you seem to be comparing Rooney and Eto'o to Mount makes me think your username might be correct.

I can't see the source of the stats - it looks like Footystats but it's not because his numbers are much lower on there (68th percentile for blocked shot per 90) so unless we know that and can compare other players it's not particularly valuable.
Yes that is exactly what I was doing. I was saying Mount is as good as Rooney and Eto'o. That is a totally logical conclusion to draw from my post. Definitely not referencing famous players to highlight players who have been shunted out of position at all.

Not sure what to tell you mate. They are in front of your eyes, it's 442 and it's pretty obvious if you watch him regularly. I could talk about the fact you just posted heatmaps of Mount playing in the exact positions a modern 8 in an attacking side would play in last season as if to prove a point. I'll just leave it at talk to me at the end of the season.
 

Mike Smalling

Full Member
Joined
Jan 27, 2018
Messages
11,254
To be fair, the no. 7 shirt lost a lot of its magic when we gave it to Owen and Valencia.

Mount will either do well or he won’t. His shirt number is a detail.
 

fergies coat

Full Member
Joined
May 10, 2013
Messages
2,807
Location
Wythenshawe, Manchester
When I seen what number he got I knew this place would be up in arms about it. It's only a number for god sake. More average players have worn it than special players have. Get over it you bunch of weirdo's.
 

Jam

Full Member
Joined
Sep 8, 2014
Messages
1,158
Lads what if we’re mis-reading the whole situation and he’s been brought in to play #1 and #9?
 

Ubik

Nothing happens until something moves!
Joined
Jul 8, 2010
Messages
19,016
When I seen what number he got I knew this place would be up in arms about it. It's only a number for god sake. More average players have worn it than special players have. Get over it you bunch of weirdo's.
Tbf it's only half up in arms, the other half are taking the piss.
 

spiriticon

Full Member
Joined
Feb 3, 2013
Messages
7,523
On one hand it's just a shirt number...on the other he better have 30 goals + 15 assists next season.
 

Kag

Full Member
Joined
Jun 15, 2013
Messages
18,875
Location
United Kingdom
I like that he’s taken the number. I’m not going to piss my pants over a numeral, but it’s a confident move from his point of view.

Hopefully this works out. There are understandable doubts, but I think Ten Hag knows what he’s doing.
 

Rhyme Animal

Thinks Di Zerbi is better than Pep.
Joined
Sep 3, 2015
Messages
11,193
Location
Nonchalantly scoring the winner...
And who’s to say Mount won’t have a brilliant career at United and do the shirt proud?
Yeah, this is true tbf.

Hopefully he does well.

I think for lots of people it’s an underwhelming transfer and coupled with the fact a lot were quite excited about Garnacho getting the number 7 (including Garnacho himself).

It seemed like a fresh new beginning with a real character bringing some flair and youthful energy to the table.

And Mount is obviously not a player with any real flair, who many fans aren’t particularly excited about, even if they think he’s a solid signing.

So it has a bit of a letdown feeling, coinciding with strong noises that the Glazers are remaining at the club, you can understand people being a bit miffed.

But as you say, hopefully he does well and Utd can push on from 3rd and aim for a proper title push and a good run in the CL.
 

Aretak

Full Member
Joined
Jan 13, 2019
Messages
309
Very happy with the signing. I think he'll prove the doubters wrong in a big way.
 

OverratedOpinion

Full Member
Joined
Sep 4, 2017
Messages
6,512
I can tell why some Chelsea fans are starting to get a little bitter. Since his debut

- Most goals scored
- Most assists
- Most chances created
- Most appearences

In sides qualifying for and winning the Champions League. What a signing guys.
 

Real Name

Full Member
Joined
Oct 21, 2020
Messages
14,355
Location
Croatia
I can tell why some Chelsea fans are starting to get a little bitter. Since his debut

- Most goals scored
- Most assists
- Most chances created
- Most appearences

In sides qualifying for and winning the Champions League. What a signing guys.
Yet, according to some he's underwhelming and average at most.
 

The Firestarter

Full Member
Joined
Apr 8, 2010
Messages
28,345
I can tell why some Chelsea fans are starting to get a little bitter. Since his debut

- Most goals scored
- Most assists
- Most chances created
- Most appearences

In sides qualifying for and winning the Champions League. What a signing guys.
Why so many of them here anyway? Kick everyone out and keep @duffer
 

Rockets Redglare

New Member
Newbie
Joined
Jun 23, 2015
Messages
2,673
Yeah, this is true tbf.

Hopefully he does well.

I think for lots of people it’s an underwhelming transfer and coupled with the fact a lot were quite excited about Garnacho getting the number 7 (including Garnacho himself).

It seemed like a fresh new beginning with a real character bringing some flair and youthful energy to the table.

And Mount is obviously not a player with any real flair, who many fans aren’t particularly excited about, even if they think he’s a solid signing.

So it has a bit of a letdown feeling, coinciding with strong noises that the Glazers are remaining at the club, you can understand people being a bit miffed.

But as you say, hopefully he does well and Utd can push on from 3rd and aim for a proper title push and a good run in the CL.
Yeah I get that, I always associated the 7 with a more exciting player as well but I genuinely think Mount will be a great signing.
 

Battery

New Member
Newbie
Joined
Sep 8, 2017
Messages
78
Location
Oxfordshire
I'm really pleased with this, he wants to come and he makes the team better.

Trust ETH 100%.
 

tomaldinho1

Full Member
Joined
Nov 26, 2015
Messages
18,087
Yes that is exactly what I was doing. I was saying Mount is as good as Rooney and Eto'o. That is a totally logical conclusion to draw from my post. Definitely not referencing famous players to highlight players who have been shunted out of position at all.

Not sure what to tell you mate. They are in front of your eyes, it's 442 and it's pretty obvious if you watch him regularly. I could talk about the fact you just posted heatmaps of Mount playing in the exact positions a modern 8 in an attacking side would play in last season as if to prove a point. I'll just leave it at talk to me at the end of the season.
You seem incredibly angry about this.

'You said "was Rooney a LW, was Eto'o" there was no context whatsoever apart from that sentence. Your point however seems a bit contradictory, if Mount (who has always been a wide or attacking midfielder) is getting 'shunted' into the CMs, surely you are agreeing with me?

Please name another 'modern 8' - I will point out to you that Kroos is literally an 8 and plays in the exact role Eriksen plays, as evidence by their heatmaps.
 

spiriticon

Full Member
Joined
Feb 3, 2013
Messages
7,523
Too many are underestimating Mount. He's a definite upgrade on Fred and will be very useful for the team in the coming season. He can be that 'glue' for the attack to gel.

The only question is whether he will be better than Eriksen. We certainly didn't spend 60 million for him to be benched, so he better be good from the start. None of that Sancho ' he needs more time' crap.
 

Mockney

Not the only poster to be named Poster of the Year
Joined
Jan 27, 2009
Messages
40,989
Location
Editing my own posts.
I expect him to make us play a lot better without doing that much that stands out as exceptional

The midfield of Klopp’s Liverpool was basically all players like that, so… fingers crossed

Also good set pieces, which is always worth a shit load
 

sirAlexsglasses

New Member
Newbie
Joined
Oct 26, 2021
Messages
292
I dont think players think about who are the owners before moving to clubs at all.
Maybe some don't, i have to say i would be surprised at that, you want to win things as a player and that only happens with investment, but then again i guess some players are only really bothered about the fame and the trappings that comes from being a man united player.
 

Ali Dia

Full Member
Joined
May 10, 2013
Messages
14,380
Location
Souness's Super Sub/George Weahs Talented Cousin
I can tell why some Chelsea fans are starting to get a little bitter. Since his debut

- Most goals scored
- Most assists
- Most chances created
- Most appearences

In sides qualifying for and winning the Champions League. What a signing guys.
Huge signing and statement of intent. He’s serious about football and winning. He’s not a celebrity first kind of guy. Big money yes but it’s for another leader. #7 won’t make him wilt. He’s a system player and he’ll do really well. It’ll be good to put the curse bed for a few seasons. Sanchez… shudder… too much expectation on Garnachos shoulders as an attacker next season to wear it.
 

OverratedOpinion

Full Member
Joined
Sep 4, 2017
Messages
6,512
You seem incredibly angry about this.

'You said "was Rooney a LW, was Eto'o" there was no context whatsoever apart from that sentence. Your point however seems a bit contradictory, if Mount (who has always been a wide or attacking midfielder) is getting 'shunted' into the CMs, surely you are agreeing with me?

Please name another 'modern 8' - I will point out to you that Kroos is literally an 8 and plays in the exact role Eriksen plays, as evidence by their heatmaps.
I'm not angry in the slightest. I was just being sarcastic as you intentionally misunderstood the point I was making to change the subject.

Look at KDB or Kovacic's heatmaps on your own link.

Eriksen can't run and Kroos has played as a 6 for about 5 years.
 

Oranges038

Full Member
Joined
Oct 19, 2020
Messages
12,376
Because it’s iconic and these things matter. For legacy and marketing.
Numbers really don't mean shit anymore.

It's just a number, it doesn't define a player unless they are big enough to have a brand like Beckham or Ronaldo.
 

tenpoless

No 6-pack, just 2Pac
Joined
Oct 20, 2014
Messages
16,426
Location
Ole's ipad
Supports
4-4-2 classic
We're going absolutely crazy over this and not in the good way.
 

sirAlexsglasses

New Member
Newbie
Joined
Oct 26, 2021
Messages
292
Personally im happy with the signing, he didn't have the best of seasons last season but then again with everything that's going on at Chelsea I'm not surprised, his stats are excellent and he's the type of player that ETH wants as he always looks for the forward pass and presses, as long as ETH is happy with a player then thats good enough for me. Hes proven that he knows what hes looking for in a player, and if anyone says Anthony, im sure he will be an excellent player for us.
 

stu_1992

Full Member
Joined
May 8, 2013
Messages
4,898
Location
Ireland
Glad to see a deal done early. Not our most pressing need but a good player regardless and Ten Hag clearly has a plan for him since he seemed to want him so badly. I'm looking forward to seeing how he does.

The number 7 is a bit surprising to be honest. Was convinced that Garnacho would be getting that, if not now, then soon.
 

LordSpud

Full Member
Joined
May 22, 2017
Messages
2,506
If he's taking the 7 it means ETH sees him as a proper member of the first XI. I'm guessing it becomes Mount, Bruno and Casemiro with Eriksen, McTom etc in reserve