It's a foul, for sure, I don't know how anyone could argue otherwise. But as others have said, keepers get away with that sort of thing all the time.
Was it a penalty?
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Yes, easily
If Jon Moss thinks it was a penalty then that's my mind made up. Definately wasn't then
Nope.
Totally biased opinion is no.
Totally unbiased opinion is also no.
Totally biased opinion is no.
Totally unbiased opinion is also no.
No, I don’t think it was. It was clumsy by Onana but there was no intent. It was just two players challenging for the ball and missing. Would have been harsh if given.
Yeah was insane how many obvious penalties we were denied after that. Fully expecting refs giving soft pens against us now after today.
No it's not a foul. Onana was inside his 6 yards box. Keepers are very protected and have extra privileges inside that box.
I wish people could stop saying we got away with that. Seriously that's the fecking rule and the ref and Var only followed that rule and made the right call.
Oana got a Var check only because the Wolves players seemed hurt. If he hit one of them in the face/head the ref might call it use of excessive force/endangering other player and give a pen. He didn't so no foul whatsoever here ffs.
Stonewall pen ….if that had been up the other end we’d have all been screaming penalty 100%
So let’s just say it’s a Corner that was swung in . Wolves player heads ball (over the bar ) Onana missed ball and player but clatters another player. This is a goal kick every single time so for me the right call was made
Happens alot in many seasons and a pen is never given. Personally I think it is a pen, but its never given
Is there a rule that explains why that isn't foul? Genuine question. If that isn't a foul then I'm obviously not up to date with the rules nowadays.
No the ball had gone. Keepers do this all the time and get away with it. There’s a desperation for Onana to flop though in the media. It’s a bit weird.
Coming together nothing to throw a hizzy fit over.
No he collided with a player after the ball was gone and the player he hit didn't even touch the ball. No goalscoring opportunity was denied which is why VAR didn't even invite the Ref to view it on the monitor.
If that happens to any other club this weekend it passes without incident but because it's United it's a great injustice. The one on Antony was more of a penalty and I don't think that was even reviewed.
If that happens to any other club this weekend it passes without incident but because it's United it's a great injustice. The one on Antony was more of a penalty and I don't think that was even reviewed.
No.
The rule is you basically can't touch a keeper inside that box when he's mid air trying to catch the ball because he's very defenseless at that moment.
https://soccerfolders.com/soccer-goalie-box-rules/
I thought it would be given. I sort of understand that the ball was gone but keeper came, missed the ball by a country mile and clattered the opposition player. Felt like United got away with one. Delighted of course, but, phew!
Don't think I've ever seen them given before.
Definitely a pen. Think we got away with that one
Didn't watch the game, traveling. Saw the outrage. Looked at the video ... Really? It's rare to see refs give a pen when the goalie literally punches the player in the face, this is him jumping arms up to try and make a save and you get incidental body contact, 0 arms to the face contact. It's fecking fine, what the hell.
Very clear I think. Would like to hear the logic
Thought it was.
Still think it was.
Still think it was.
This. If you take the red tinted glasses off it was a definite pen and we would all be moaning if it was the other way round.
He horribly miscalculated, got nowhere near the ball and went careening into an opposition player.
Baffled at why the fact the ball was gone, the player he hit didn't touch the ball, and that he avoided denying a goalscoring opportunity justify that.
There is absolutely no question about this and it is tantamount to delusion to think that didn't warrant a penalty.
Yeah, but it still wouldn't of been given. Even if it was the other way round.
I think it probably should be given, but they are not normally given. In fact they are very rarely given unless the keeper kicks the attackers head off of something. You tend to see similar with outfield players clattering attackers after they have just got a shot or a header off, they don't get given either.
Could have been given but those almost never are unless you are called Messi.
If it happened against us, I'd want it and can totally understand Wolves' frustration. Although in a weird way, I didn't expect the decision to be overturned. Until we hear what the referees say to VAR, we won't know if it could be deemed clear and obvious error.
I'm also sure that in two games of the Premiership over the weekend, when an attacker got the shot away and was then caught by the keeper (one was Brentford) nothing was given. In fact, they are hardly ever given and even Antony was caught by Sa after getting a shot away tonight.
Keepers for my entire football watching life have had a certain freedom to "Wipe everything out" as Neville put it and when they get it wrong punch attackers in the head with no risk of a penalty.
I'm also sure that in two games of the Premiership over the weekend, when an attacker got the shot away and was then caught by the keeper (one was Brentford) nothing was given. In fact, they are hardly ever given and even Antony was caught by Sa after getting a shot away tonight.
Keepers for my entire football watching life have had a certain freedom to "Wipe everything out" as Neville put it and when they get it wrong punch attackers in the head with no risk of a penalty.
As I posted on the post-match thread, I do think incidents where a striker gets their cross / shot away, and then is clearly fouled by the defender or keeper with a late foul while attempting to block, should be given as penalties more often - but they rarely are. And there's only media 'outrage' when, like this, it goes the way of the likes of us.
It's one of the things I thought we'd see more penalties given for under VAR - and we were doing at one stage - but they quickly seemed to backtrack again in order not to overturn the on-field decisions as much. So I wasn't expecting a penalty to be given - any more than when Antony got fouled after chipping their keeper earlier (and many other examples I'm sure over this, and every, weekend). But I certainly was expecting the usual media outrage about it and the usual digs about United / Old Trafford bias just because this instance went in our favour. So no surprise there.
It's one of the things I thought we'd see more penalties given for under VAR - and we were doing at one stage - but they quickly seemed to backtrack again in order not to overturn the on-field decisions as much. So I wasn't expecting a penalty to be given - any more than when Antony got fouled after chipping their keeper earlier (and many other examples I'm sure over this, and every, weekend). But I certainly was expecting the usual media outrage about it and the usual digs about United / Old Trafford bias just because this instance went in our favour. So no surprise there.
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In my opinion it want given because the wolves players didn’t get the ball and he arrived after they had missed it. He is entitled to go for it as much as they are and they missed the header and he missed the catch. His contact didn't affect them so its a coming together following a 50/50 challenge
Yes, it was.
There needs to be a wholehearted change to the way goalkeepers are treated in the modern game. They can get away with pretty much anything if the ball is in the air and it's infuriating even if it's saved us massively tonight.
A player from any other position does that and they're getting a yellow and it's been given as a penalty.
There needs to be a wholehearted change to the way goalkeepers are treated in the modern game. They can get away with pretty much anything if the ball is in the air and it's infuriating even if it's saved us massively tonight.
A player from any other position does that and they're getting a yellow and it's been given as a penalty.
Wolves were toothless and would have missed the penalty anyway.
Ive never seen that as a pen tbh. And I’m sure I’d feel the same if it wasn’t in United’s favour (tho who knows I guess?) I found the Messi one at the WC super unusual, and even remember enough people complaining that it was only due it Messi bias then, so I don’t know why it’s now some universally accepted Idea…
It definitely wouldn’t have even been discussed 5-6 years ago. But maybe things have changed?
It definitely wouldn’t have even been discussed 5-6 years ago. But maybe things have changed?
I've literally never seen those given before in my life. We've seen keepers knock someone's lights out and still not been called a penalty. Now that it happens to us it's a penalty? I don't understand the outrage.
I can't remember the game, but it was this weekend, and the keeper clattered into the player after he got a shot off, which went wide. The commentators said nothing. The pundits after the game said nothing. The coaches after the game said nothing.
It's a joke. They manufacture controversy out of nothing, because it's all about clicks and attention. If it involves Man Utd, the most innocuous thing is turned into controversy.
It's a joke. They manufacture controversy out of nothing, because it's all about clicks and attention. If it involves Man Utd, the most innocuous thing is turned into controversy.
Why is it a question, was seen by Ref and VAR reviewed it and saw it as within the law. so was it a penalty no, as no penalty was given. Player get knocked out of the way on corners every match, only as it’s United it’s a big deal as usual, had to listen to feckin Owen going on about it on my match commentary 
Surprised it wasn't given
Lloris had a penalty given against him during the European Chamiponships against Portugal.
One was given against Ederson at the Emirates last season.