He didn't finish second in his first season with us.
Jose wants to return
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Europa League win. League Cup win. Community Shield win. He is a winner.
Shaw alone would be enough.
Sigh.
Now watch our players run for ETH like never before
Ten Hag has caused more carnage at the club than Mourinho. And the results are shite. And the football is shite. But let's keep him.
come on now…The one thing he does well is put together aggressive, physically dominant sides. Something we haven't seen since. Couldnt match Klopp or Pep for how to get a side to play football but we were never humiliated against either. So many stalemates vs Pool and an even record vs City with every game decided by 1 goal.
But it only works so long as all the players buy into him and thrive under a siege mentality. Over time he seems to have lost that motivational edge and ability to keep players with him.
The state of some of these replies, shambles.
Bold the two others, then.
No he’s sacked because he’s toxic and treats everyone like shite. That’s the reason he’s never at a club longer than 3 years. He had money to spend here and did he spend it wisely?
Ole built the best squad, by far.
We played the best football under him, by far.
The drop off after him was the biggest one, by far.
He was the best at man-management, by far.
The general atmosphere around the club was the best during his tenure, by far.
I don't see how these points I made can be argued against.
And miss me with the trophies José won. We had piss easy runs and it doesn't matter anyway. The PL and CL are the only two trophies that are actually significant for Manchester United.
Winning the Community Shield against Leicester City doesn't equal Mourinho being an elite manager. Neither does winning the League Cup against Northampton, Man. City, West Ham, Hull, and Southampton...nor does winning the Europa League against Zorya Luhansk, Fenerbahce, Feyenoord, Saint-Etienne, Rostov, Anderlecht, Celta Vigo (where we were inches away from bottling it at Old Trafford) and Ajax.
ten Hag convincingly eliminating La Liga winning Barcelona last season in the EL is genuinely more impressive on its own, than Mourinho's fraudulent cup runs in 2017.
3 trophies and we faced 1 serious team in City out of 14 opponents combined.
To be fair nobody is saying keep ETH here, well they shouldn't be, they're just saying, or at least I am, that Jose would be just as bad football wise these days and he'd bring his toxic atmosphere with him too.Ten Hag has caused more carnage at the club than Mourinho. And the results are shite. And the football is shite. But let's keep him.
Jose is one of the top 5 coaches in the world.
He was never a “busted flush” at United. Imagine calling a manager finished when they only won a league a few months before joining United. Remarkable stupidity.
I never wanted him as United manager and don’t want him to replace ETH (although interim would be very interesting) but he’s a world class coach.
Yes! Imagine were we would be if we had signed Perisic and Dier like he wanted us to.
It never takes long for takes like these
Would be an absolute disaster. No thanks. Time for the club to look forwards not backwards.
"Ole" was terrible, sorry.Ole built the best squad, by far.
We played the best football under him, by far.
The drop off after him was the biggest one, by far.
He was the best at man-management, by far.
The general atmosphere around the club was the best during his tenure, by far.
I don't see how these points I made can be argued against.
And miss me with the trophies José won. We had piss easy runs and it doesn't matter anyway. The PL and CL are the only two trophies that are actually significant for Manchester United.
Winning the Community Shield against Leicester City doesn't equal Mourinho being an elite manager. Neither does winning the League Cup against Northampton, Man. City, West Ham, Hull, and Southampton...nor winning the Europa League against Zorya Luhansk, Fenerbahce, Feyenoord, Saint-Etienne, Rostov, Anderlecht, Celta Vigo and Ajax.
ten Hag convincingly eliminating La Liga winning Barcelona last season in the EL is genuinely more impressive on its own, than Mourinho's fraudulent cup runs in 2017.
3 trophies and we faced 1 serious team in City out of 14 opponents combined.
This is even funnier than the actual threadOle built the best squad, by far.
We played the best football under him, by far.
The drop off after him was the biggest one, by far.
He was the best at man-management, by far.
The general atmosphere around the club was the best during his tenure, by far.
I don't see how these points I made can be argued against.
And miss me with the trophies José won. We had piss easy runs and it doesn't matter anyway. The PL and CL are the only two trophies that are actually significant for Manchester United.
Winning the Community Shield against Leicester City doesn't equal Mourinho being an elite manager. Neither does winning the League Cup against Northampton, Man. City, West Ham, Hull, and Southampton...nor winning the Europa League against Zorya Luhansk, Fenerbahce, Feyenoord, Saint-Etienne, Rostov, Anderlecht, Celta Vigo and Ajax.
ten Hag convincingly eliminating La Liga winning Barcelona last season in the EL is genuinely more impressive on its own, than Mourinho's fraudulent cup runs in 2017.
3 trophies and we faced 1 serious team in City out of 14 opponents combined.
So was Mourinho.
This is so massively incorrect that it is funny. Monchi ruined Roma with a ridiculous number of overpiad signings, leaving them with an incredibly bloated squad of worthless players on big wages. Roma spent some money when Jose arrived but they were moving players out even then and since his first window they have made a net profit selling multiple players whilst only sanctioning free agents and loan deals in. I don't want him back here but he did a decent job at Roma with severe financial limitations.
They’re both second rate trophies. Always have been. And that particular season they were second rate trophies where we drew exclusively second rate teams.
Whatever, bigging up the Community Shield as some sort of achievement is just taking the piss.
Mourinho won two trophies, whereas OGS failed totally.
Lot of drivel.
Best at man management but left a squad full of deadwood who were desperate to leave and pandered to all the worst characters in the squad. Yeah he kept Pogba happier than Jose managed, but not happy enough to keep Raiola's mouth shut. Strung the likes of Lingard and Henderson along with false promises. Look what good that did.
We had piss easy runs in the FA cup and Europa league under Ole as well but he fecked them all up with his abysmal selections and game management.
I mean, that would be interesting.
I fully agree.
That's the problem though, not just the direct players playing for him, but football as a whole. Everyone now knows he's done, he cannot ever build that unbeatable mentality again. No player is going to take him seriously enough these days to back him like that, let alone a whole squad.
Haha.
So that's your whole counter-argument, because you can't deny anything that I said.
Typical José fan
Tell me where I'm wrong
Sacked by 2 smaller clubs since leaving us.
Plays an outdated style of football.
Falls out with players and creates a toxic atmosphere.
Let's get him in.
Plays an outdated style of football.
Falls out with players and creates a toxic atmosphere.
Let's get him in.
The teams you draw do not reflect the trophy. Ideally, you'd want an easy run! It doesn't detract from the win if you only draw "easy" teams - the ONLY thing that matters is the silverware at the end.
No one is bigging up the CS, it was stupid by that poster to include it because it gives guys like you easy ammo
7 pages on a nonsense story.
This is **** behavior. I really hope your just doing a bit.The teams you draw do not reflect the trophy. Ideally, you'd want an easy run! It doesn't detract from the win if you only draw "easy" teams - the ONLY thing that matters is the silverware at the end.
No one is bigging up the CS, it was stupid by that poster to include it because it gives guys like you easy ammo
It would be interesting to see how he would do at Newcastle, I recon they would give him the backing he needs to build a team that could challenge for the title.
Of course I can deny it. I just didn't want to piss away time doing it, but for you I'll make an exception:So that's your whole counter-argument, because you can't deny anything that I said.
Typical José fan
The factors you are talking about are intangible. The hard facts are that Mourinho had a better PPG average than Solskjaer, as well as actually winning trophies. Despite @Pogue Mahone doesn't approving of said trophies
He's always been a Jose *******, your better off just ignoring anything he says. I mean things are crap with ETH right now, but anyone that thinks Jose dinosaur football and toxic behaviour is somehow going to fix everything needs putting in a strait jacket.