What Murtough is good at is being an administrative fixer. I’m sure he can find a job elsewhere. Maybe there will be one for him in the new United hierarchy.
Giving him cone duties would bring him uncomfortably close to actual footballers. No thanks
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Giving him cone duties would bring him uncomfortably close to actual footballers. No thanks
Grow up you child.
Buzzing your tits off? I'm excited...
Or we finally get forced to by Longstaff for £40m
I thought after getting Brexit Jim from Monaco, we’d no longer pay tax?
No idea if he'll be the right guy but it's nice to be swinging big dick like this and just nabbing him from Newcastle
As I understand it, Ashworth was responsible for first academy players, then first team recruitment at WBA. What he’s been doing at Brighton and Newcastle, I have very vague ideas about.
What I wonder is, when so many laud him, what are they lauding?
Well Newcastle can huff and puff but their are limits to 'garden leave' You cannot stop people working regardless of contract. On an emotional level if they dig in and want a stupid fee Utd wont pay it means he is officially delayed from doing official duties. Like Berrada, as soon as he joins, he will be on job.
Not bitter, but everyone goes on about the players who came to us whilst Ashworth was there.
Ashworth done a great job with us but identifying players was not his remit.
DA set up the academy to use an easier pathway for youngsters to get first team football. All year groups play exactly the way the first team does, he introduced player liason officers for new players, these are former players who mentor the new youngsters outside of football. Normally ones that speak the same Language. He set up the loan thing. What clubs to loan players to, taking into account how clubs play and how that club will fair that season.
For example Caicedo went to Beershot in Belgium on loan. a side that was goinv to struggle most weeks. Its the same as mental toughness. DA or a member of his team would be in contact with him every day and visit weekends. Mitoma and Udav were at USG helping them win the title because they were a good bet to finish high up the league with attacking football. Adringa was there to.
DA paved the way by indentifying other South American countries, for us to break into the South American league and handling dual ownership of Potential players.
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The amount of disrespect that football fans give to those in behind the scenes roles - whom they know literally feck all about their job - is absolutely fecking disgustingWhat Murtough is good at is being an administrative fixer. I’m sure he can find a job elsewhere. Maybe there will be one for him in the new United hierarchy.
Giving him cone duties would bring him uncomfortably close to actual footballers. No thanks
Fans of smaller clubs are always going on about United fans being arrogant.
But the same lads will say things like this having spent 6 years in the top flight after a century in the wilderness.
Football fans can only judge what they see. Murtough and the rest have so far, failed absolutely miserably at taking United back to the top.
Or would you prefer we keep spinning our wheels with people not fit to take us back to the top?
He’ll just jump into work as soon as he leaves Newcastle but in an unofficial capacity. It’s basically the same thing but he won’t give interviews and the main thing is he can’t divulge Newcastle targets then have us go and sign them for the same fee as Newcastle were paying next summer like Kenyon did to us. He stole our work basically. Bit of gardening leave and we’d have had Robben.
Newcastle paid £5m to get him from Brighton in the first place.
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This is moving at such a pace i wouldn't be shocked if it was done tomorrow.
It sounds like this is going to take a record compensation fee for this kind of position. SJR and co will have known this and factored it in. He’s a super hire.
Edwards seems to be suggesting we’d have to pay 10m AND wait 12 months which seems total bullshit. Ashworth can just resign and join any club he wants in 12 months surely?
I think it's fair game after he sanctioned 80m for the Antony transfer.
When you earn £3m+ a year, you get judged on visible results rather than what happens behind the scenes. That’s the way of the world.
if we’re talking about lesser paid and understood roles such as Fletcher for example, then I totally agree with you.
Fantastic move by the club should it come to pass.
12 months? feck that
There's no chance INEOS will accept that.Poor little Newcastle.
Dolly Parton?
Cheers Newcastle, know your station.
Jumped up cnuts digging their heels in, was all gravy when they poached him.
Wee club in the North East.
I'm impressed INEOS are pulling this off
Is it even possible to have a gardening leave longer than a year ? What would those 10m give United ?
It's probably all for show and will get done in a few days.If we get him he better still have a head when he starts work
What next we go and take Pep?
Im not being arrogant, yes Sam Jewell would be a big loss for us, and yes who would turn down a big club like United. What im saying is going by our track record Brighton fans trust our board to get the replacement in and going by whats happened in the past, that replacement is normally better. Hardly arrogance.
We are on a high at the moment both on the pitch and off it. We know its not going to last and we are fully aware that in the next few season we could be playing outside the PL.
If you want arrogant fans take a look at chelsea. They took Winstanly from us, the same as Ashworth with Newcastle all we got was that they would now be signing the playets we were after and we are finished, worked well for them. Payed over the top for Caicedo and turned him into a Championship player.
I didn't say 2 years at Brighton. I also didn't really weigh the West Brom stint as highly as elite level experience given the club and their development. To scale that at United is tricky, and I found Brighton and Newcastle more comparable to that task.
That said I also said he's probably a very good pick, albeit with limited experience.
But hey ho, get wound up from cherry picking a part of my post instead of reading the whole thing.
we should just pay the 10m if it means he’ll start ahead of antony.
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Well in Murtough's case the evidence is there to support the opinion that his work establishing the women's team and sorting out the academy has been very effective. I understand the women have been starved of funds recently which has rather undone his good work; that's hardly his fault.
Since getting involved in more Director of Football-type stuff, notably recruitment, there doesn't seem to have been any improvement since he took over from Ed Woodward. How much of that is his fault is unclear, but it remains the case that things really haven't improved.
So drawing the inference on a discussion board that he's been good at doing certain things and not good at others seems fair enough to me.
In any case, people will still disrespect people in behind the scenes roles even if that person's role has been clearly explained to them. Darren Fletcher's job as "Technical Director" involves overseeing the transition of young players into the first team squad. The youngsters who have come up this season all look really well prepared for the rigours of first team football, so it's fair to infer that he's doing a really effective job. People still go on about nepotism and his being unqualified as a "Technical Director" though. Admittedly it's a stupid title, but that doesn't invalidate the job he's doing.
Nick Cox himself said he was behind the signing of Garnacho, even explaining how it went down.
I'd lower the fee by giving them Keith Gillespie.
We had an investment banker signing players based on who he thought would generate the most social media impressions for a decade. You can't blame us for being excited.