The RedCafe Boxing Thread

Do you really think Tyson took that seriously?
If he didn’t then he bloody well should have. It made him (and boxing) look ridiculous.

Although the sport itself has been on the slide for a long time, so perhaps that was just another inevitable nail in the coffin.
 
Not a fan of wheeling out Tyson even though it's against Paul. He's 60 years old and he should be looking after himself.

Holyfield vs Belfort was a tough watch and just felt wrong. Ok, Belfort was 46, but he was juiced up.

I know that Holyfield/Belfort is different to Tyson/Paul because Paul has no real pedigree, but we honestly don't know what Mike has at 60 years old to defend himself properly.
 
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AJ has a worried look on his face in most of his recent pre-match appearances. I’m not convinced he even believes in himself anymore.
 
People worried about Tyson

Did you not watch 55 year old Tyson systematically take apart Roy Jones Jr and look absolutely Rapid in his movement?

Come on now.......
 
People worried about Tyson

Did you not watch 55 year old Tyson systematically take apart Roy Jones Jr and look absolutely Rapid in his movement?

Come on now.......
I don't know how these fights come about or who sanctions these really old fighters, but I do think if Mike goes in there with genuinely bad intentions, Paul could get seriously hurt.

Tyson still hits the pads sweetly and his drills are still smooth; he's probably good for 2-3 rounds at maximum output, but if he shells up and peek-a-boos looking to time Paul, that power and explosivity is still there with enough degree to really do some damage to the uninitiated for a lot longer than a few rounds.

Just a bizarre freakshow of an event where, if Tyson does look like an old man and does so happen to get hurt, questions have to be asked of how this ever got commissioned. Equally, if Paul is left twitching after a clean counter hook, you'd have to ask whose bright idea was that?

Is Paul also going to run his mouth in the build up to this?

So many questions. Ridiculous that this could get the OK, and shame on those paying to watch it, too.
 
I don't know how these fights come about or who sanctions these really old fighters, but I do think if Mike goes in there with genuinely bad intentions, Paul could get seriously hurt.

Tyson still hits the pads sweetly and his drills are still smooth; he's probably good for 2-3 rounds at maximum output, but if he shells up and peek-a-boos looking to time Paul, that power and explosivity is still there with enough degree to really do some damage to the uninitiated for a lot longer than a few rounds.

Just a bizarre freakshow of an event where, if Tyson does look like an old man and does so happen to get hurt, questions have to be asked of how this ever got commissioned. Equally, if Paul is left twitching after a clean counter hook, you'd have to ask whose bright idea was that?

Is Paul also going to run his mouth in the build up to this?

So many questions. Ridiculous that this could get the OK, and shame on those paying to watch it, too.

The thing is, Tyson is not the kind of person who walks into an agreed exhibition bout and boxes like an exhibition bout. He had maximum respect for Jones Jr and still leveled him with relentless body shots and stiff hooks. Roy looked to be happy he survived that. If Paul starts talking, Tyson's going to go into this semi-serious at the least, and if he puts in even 1/2 of the training intensity he put in prior to Jones Jr, then Paul is going to be lucky to survive a few rounds.
 
These aren't real fights. It's WWE-lite. I'm convinced the real contracts say that if Paul suffers significant/serious damage, any purse is considered null and void.
 
The thing is, Tyson is not the kind of person who walks into an agreed exhibition bout and boxes like an exhibition bout. He had maximum respect for Jones Jr and still leveled him with relentless body shots and stiff hooks. Roy looked to be happy he survived that. If Paul starts talking, Tyson's going to go into this semi-serious at the least, and if he puts in even 1/2 of the training intensity he put in prior to Jones Jr, then Paul is going to be lucky to survive a few rounds.
Paul is extremely risk averse; always having some kind of advantage that has him make the fight in the first place, but gambling on relative youth against a legitimately devastating ex-world heavyweight champion who still has bursts of freakish power and movement as well as the tactical smarts and style to maximise what he has left is really veering into potentially really bad consequence territory.

If Paul tries to sell this with his mouth and antics, thus giving Mike a reason to really give it what he wouldn't by poking the beast, people will buy in droves in the hope of seeing a car crash.

What I find crazy is that stylistically this is custom-made for Tyson. He never relied on jabs to get in and conserving energy in his style until he unloads once he's found his angles has been his bread and butter since his teens. Allied to this, Paul's hands are sloppy and he's wide open for Mike's best shots - if you were to pick an aged great heavyweight to go up against, Tyson is a horrible pick for Paul.

You'd think this won't make it to term, for both it shouldn't be sanctioned on account of Tyson's age as well as the inherent danger for Paul. Unlike Floyd carrying McGregor with his fragile hands, this is still a heavyweight with far more power, torque, agility and movement plus a style that will be difficult to carry someone for any extended period of time without being obvious. Seems to me, also, everything relies on Tyson being a nice old man who will hold back all fight, but that still doesn't take into account how little he has to throw with to go through someone turning, exposed into a timed counter hook or uppercut... his trademark shots. What could possibly go wrong? Tune in to find out!
 
Surely it's an exhibition bout and won't be an official match
 
Surely it's an exhibition bout and won't be an official match
It’s on Netflix, in a 100,000 seater stadium?
Tyson is getting a lot of money for it too.

There are people even trying to big Jake Paul up to win this legitimately.

The bigger the buildup and billing, the more serious it’ll get.
 
It’s on Netflix, in a 100,000 seater stadium?
Tyson is getting a lot of money for it too.

There are people even trying to big Jake Paul up to win this legitimately.

The bigger the buildup and billing, the more serious it’ll get.

Tyson sparring in February 2024.
This is freakish. Paul is in serious shit.

 
Surprised to see Ngannou drift out from 4 to 4.6, Ngannou pts at 28 looks tasty.
 
The Jake Paul Vs Tyson bout is ridiculous. I thought Paul was trying to at least box real boxers in their prime even if they are tomato cans. Fighting a legend like Mike Tyson who will be 58 is just nonsensical, especially when we know a prime Mike Tyson would literally kill him.

Ngannou Vs Joshua will be interesting though. I think Joshua stops him and learns from Fury's mistakes but I'd also not write off Francis who is a beast himself.
 
Surprised to see Ngannou drift out from 4 to 4.6, Ngannou pts at 28 looks tasty.
I know. I just fancy AJ to approach him a bit like the second Ruiz fight and just jab away from the outside and stay the feck away from him. How heavy is AJ?
 
18 stone….thats not really very light for AJ. Doesn’t sound like a ‘mobile’ weight. Maybe Francis will knock him out :lol:
N’Gannou will rag doll him in the clinch; stronger, heavier and an actual MMA base. They’re both lethal with uppercuts, but I would favour N’Gannou for dirty boxing.

Think it’s really about stamina and how much each has in the tan, imo. If Joshua tires, I think this’ll go very badly for him. He needs to output solidly fighting long whilst not absorbing anything to the body. The heavier, stronger man leaning on him would be so draining and he needs to avoid that at all costs.
 
N’Gannou will rag doll him in the clinch; stronger, heavier and an actual MMA base. They’re both lethal with uppercuts, but I would favour N’Gannou for dirty boxing.

Think it’s really about stamina and how much each has in the tan, imo. If Joshua tires, I think this’ll go very badly for him. He needs to output solidly fighting long whilst not absorbing anything to the body. The heavier, stronger man leaning on him would be so draining and he needs to avoid that at all costs.
Yeah I think that but I also think AJ doesn’t move well at his heavier weights, he’s ponderous and gets knackered easily.

I would actually be a bit of a fitting end to AJs career if he was knocked out cold by an MMA fighter.
 
Yeah I think that but I also think AJ doesn’t move well at his heavier weights, he’s ponderous and gets knackered easily.

I would actually be a bit of a fitting end to AJs career if he was knocked out cold by an MMA fighter.

If Ngannou manages to knock out Joshua he deserves a title fight, he wouldn't be just "an MMA fighter". Joshua has had a disappointing career really given his physical gifts but he's still one of the best around in this current era of heavyweight boxing. If Ngannou even makes the fight hard he deserves to be talked about as a proper boxer and it should stop the disrespect.
 
Did that Ukrainian lad win with a punch to the back of the head and then a 10 count from the ref? Maybe the chubby lad didn't want it but what a shit end to the fight.
 
Joshua doesn’t look confident to me. Ngannou’s unorthodox style and with that power…! Looking forward to it :D
 
Ngannou had some mystery about him against Fury and performed well but I reckon with some tape to study, Joshua will find holes in him. I don't think he'll go too gung-ho though because Ngannou hits like a truck and could send him to sleep in a shot.

Think it'll be a dull fight. Gonna back Joshua to safely box his way to a decision.
 
What time do we reckon it starts at I’m seeing some say 11pm Irish/uk and others say 10pm
 
Never seen a fight with guys hitting the deck this many times without there being an actual knockdown.
 
He's given that fecking judo throw as a knockdown? :lol:
 
Never seen a man so shook by someone small enough to pick up and carry home.
 
Not a knockdown but he's been dropping to the floor in the clinch every round to disrupt the fight so no sympathy

Fair play to Ball, Vargas wasn't expecting this
 
Why is the crowd so shit? Doesn't exactly feel like a spectacle is on the way