The Overlap | Trent Booed & Gary Can’t Watch United Anymore? | The Overlap Fan Debate

40 minutes in - excellent discussion on the problem of football's entertainment value and the issue of playing out of the back. Neville makes some really good points without sounding like a dinosaur, which is what he usually does on this topic.

Really interesting take about the type of players that were making the most passes in Neville's last 5 years in contrast to who has touched the ball the most in the last 5 years. Some of the names really shocked me. But he's absolutely right. Football suffers if Lewis Dunk is one of the five players with the most passes in the league.

I wonder if this due to the rule changes made in 2019 where during a goal kick your own players can now stay in the penalty area to receive the first pass?
 
I wonder if this due to the rule changes made in 2019 where during a goal kick your own players can now stay in the penalty area to receive the first pass?
Big effect I think, and it’s really shifted the mentality of keeping hold of the ball across the back line.
 
Yeah great point.

Most 'big games' are quite dull nowadays, yhe
Much better games are when you get 2 mid table teams slogging it out and counter attacking. Teams like Forest and Newcastle are much more entertaining to watch than City
 
I can’t help but love big Dunc :lol:

Obviously biased but it was a great episode and he's a top character. Pre-ordered his book already of course.

He's one of those people that if you met back in the day you'd think he was a cnut really given his convictions and history with the law but I do think he genuinely regrets some of it and he seems much more level headed nowadays. Comes across as a real football man too.
 
Obviously biased but it was a great episode and he's a top character. Pre-ordered his book already of course.

He's one of those people that if you met back in the day you'd think he was a cnut really given his convictions and history with the law but I do think he genuinely regrets some of it and he seems much more level headed nowadays. Comes across as a real football man too.
Agreed. I think he regrets a lot of his younger days and certainly sounded it towards the end of the episode. Fantastic character :lol:

The story about the lads breaking into his place is class heard it before but still jokes, imagine the fear on them lads with a bare chested 8 foot tall Scottish maniac coming at you
Yeah I could imagine that fear :lol: burst out laughing when Keane said his eyes lit up.
 
Comes across as a likeable guy nowadays who has a lot to offer football.
Remember watching him when I was young and loved his character and unpredictability. They're right when they say football doesn't have character anymore.
 
The story about the lads breaking into his place is class heard it before but still jokes, imagine the fear on them lads with a bare chested 8 foot tall Scottish maniac coming at you

Still blows my mind that anyone was stupid enough to break in to Duncan Fergusons house!

They clearly couldn't have been football fans!
 
I'd never really heard him speak but really comes across as someone who is now down to earth and enjoyable to listen to. I would say he wasn't down to earth/nice guy to be around when playing but his story about going to his teammates wedding in Tunisia or Nigeria makes me think he was
 
Only seen clips so far and it's been great to listen to him. The story of the burglary is hilarious
 
A real shame he was made of glass. Was a very talented player. Too one footed to be world class, though. But in the air? Must have been dam near number 1 in the world. Went down a YT rabbit hole after watching this!

I should say that might be nostalgia talking. I actually liked watching everton back then despite them being utter, utter shite. I'm sure it was just due to my age. A time and a place thing.

But still, the state of the club now means I have no almost no interest in them any more. David moyes, jesus. No thanks. There is a another 18 months wasted unless, he gets the sack sooner.
 
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Was gutted he didn't make it at Rangers. Remember watching him for Scotland give Germany a torrid time in some international friendly and was thinking we had a potential superstar on our hands.
Glad he still talks fondly of Rangers, could understand him being more bitter about that time in his career, he seemed to get royally shafted by the headbutt thing.

Imagine Scotland having a striker that good and him only being capped 7 times because of it.
 
Was gutted he didn't make it at Rangers. Remember watching him for Scotland give Germany a torrid time in some international friendly and was thinking we had a potential superstar on our hands.
Glad he still talks fondly of Rangers, could understand him being more bitter about that time in his career, he seemed to get royally shafted by the headbutt thing.

Imagine Scotland having a striker that good and him only being capped 7 times because of it.
It seems almost impossible to believe that he was sent to freaking prison for an act on a football pitch!
 
It seems almost impossible to believe that he was sent to freaking prison for an act on a football pitch!

And yet, why should you be able to headbutt someone on a football pitch and it carry less consequence than doing it anywhere else??

Football is a contact sport, but that doesn’t excuse someone intentionally dropping the nut on someone…
 
This was the polar opposite of the Sol Campbell one. Ferguson comes across as a genuine person who is well aware of his own failings and is open and honest about them. He's also a good story teller and not a weirdo :lol:
 
And yet, why should you be able to headbutt someone on a football pitch and it carry less consequence than doing it anywhere else??

Football is a contact sport, but that doesn’t excuse someone intentionally dropping the nut on someone…
No, but when you actually see the incident it's not even that bad and you'll have seen worse.
 
This was the polar opposite of the Sol Campbell one. Ferguson comes across as a genuine person who is well aware of his own failings and is open and honest about them. He's also a good story teller and not a weirdo :lol:
He's definitely a bit of a weirdo. In a mostly good way though.
 
And yet, why should you be able to headbutt someone on a football pitch and it carry less consequence than doing it anywhere else??

Football is a contact sport, but that doesn’t excuse someone intentionally dropping the nut on someone…
Nah, should be dealt with by governing bodies. That is a massive can of worms being opened.
 


Just read that Ian Wright is paying for the rehab of a women's footballer because her club removed funding. Top guy.
 
Luke Littler is a boring bugger.
It was an awful episode, as was the Sol Campbell one.

I really disliked the Ferguson one too, apparently I'm an outlier going by the posts on this page, but he comes across as a thug who thinks his violent behaviour was funny - enabled of course by the panel that were laughing along. I found it genuinely uncomfortable. Didn't find him particularly interesting in general either.
 
This was the polar opposite of the Sol Campbell one. Ferguson comes across as a genuine person who is well aware of his own failings and is open and honest about them. He's also a good story teller and not a weirdo :lol:
Just the energy of the guy, no matter that he's clearly a bit mad, pulls you in. Sol was just odd, felt like he didn't want to be there at times or he just didn't take the prompt to then tell a story or explain something.
 
Just the energy of the guy, no matter that he's clearly a bit mad, pulls you in. Sol was just odd, felt like he didn't want to be there at times or he just didn't take the prompt to then tell a story or explain something.
I mean, I totally agree that Sol is a weird guy, but it's come to something when people are lauding a bully and a thug because he's a bit charismatic over someone who is a bit odd and self-important, but hasn't spent much of his life putting people in hospital.
 
I mean, I totally agree that Sol is a weird guy, but it's come to something when people are lauding a bully and a thug because he's a bit charismatic over someone who is a bit odd and self-important, but hasn't spent much of his life putting people in hospital.
That’s fair, sadly just how we work as human’s I guess. People tend to love charismatic, funny, outgoing people even if they are/were pricks. It was a bit odd they specifically asked him to tell the burglary story given it’s basically a tale of beating the shit out of someone (as much as I don’t care given they broke into his house) but it didn’t really add much.
 
That’s fair, sadly just how we work as human’s I guess. People tend to love charismatic, funny, outgoing people even if they are/were pricks. It was a bit odd they specifically asked him to tell the burglary story given it’s basically a tale of beating the shit out of someone (as much as I don’t care given they broke into his house) but it didn’t really add much.
You're absolutely right, it's something we're all susceptible to.