Didn’t mean bringing in more wing backs and simply playing overlapping wing backs rather than inverted wing backs as Amorim often plays mate but yes I think it’s likely we’ll use what we have or promote from within
Viktor Gyökeres
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For game changer you need to pay. If it means to overpay him then fine. We overpaid Yoro to steal him and it seems that it was excellent move.
Overpaying for decent players is mistake by all means but for key players you need to pay whatever it takes.
Gyokeres and Osimhen are completely realistic signings but ........they cost money. Imo, i would rather pay over the odds for top striker then spending that money on two or three water carriers like Ugarte and Dorgu.
We simply need to pitch him next seasons team, not this one
Translation: "Please don't gazump us"
Now I got your point. Fair enough. I misunderstood your quote. I still think that those words coming form a Sporting fan only confirms his quality.
Wish you lot would stop getting me excited about a player who doesn’t want to join us. 
haha exactly what I was thinking. Let the Gunners have Sesko (who is a good striker himself in my opinion). Amorim reunites with Viktor and everyone happy (one can dream..)
Which player do you think would get his attention on the provisions that we have Champions League of course
Gyokeres is a bit of a late bloomer but he's a special player. Scoring 96 goals in 2 seasons are crazy stats, even if it's a Portuguese League. He also scored 6 goals out of 8 matches in the UCL this season. His story is very similar to Bruno's. Bruno was playing in mid table Serie A sides before he joined Sporting and he was also kind of a late bloomer. The one major difference is that Gyokeres carried Sporting to 2 consecutive titles in Portugal and he has been their best player in this century.
Gyokeres seems like a big difference maker and he'll guarantee you a lot of goals. It would be a monumental upgrade to Hojlund and Zirkzee. Not sure why some people are reserved about him, when it's obvious that he's a complete beast of a player.
Don't worry, we've to win the EL for him to even be a possibility.Wish you lot would stop getting me excited about a player who doesn’t want to join us.
Mood in here (and across the site) will be one extreme or the other come Thursday.
Yeah there's no point in thinking about it if we can't find a way to finally beat Spurs this season
It seems he will have plenty of options - I'm not sure what rational person would opt to sign for United, other than for monetary reasons.
Not that I have any concerns about Gyokeres, I expect he'd be great for us, but I don't think you can really call Bruno a late bloomer. He had 38 goal involvements for Sporting at the age of 23. Do you consider Kane to be a late bloomer because he didn't score 20 goals until he was 21?
A late bloomer is more like Guirassy, who hadn't even scored 15 goals until he was 27 and then explodes and has maintained that level. Gyokeres getting 34 goal involvements in the Championship at 24 wasn't even that late tbh. He's clearly continued to get better since then, but 24 is a pretty normal age for top striker numbers to start seeing dramatic increases. In general, I think people downplay how well Gyokeres was already doing in the Championship tbh.
All we can do is put forward our case, obviously not offer mental wages because that's been downfall before
Yeah, got to put forward our best case and see what happens! I think Delap is the more realistic option but you only go there after Gyokores has said no
Yeah completely agree, frustrating we can't put a case forward through qualifying on league form like Arsenal
He has some quality no doubt about it. But there are still concerns about how he’ll look in a different league and more importantly in a less dominant team. Sporting are putting teams to the sword every week. He’d have to sign for Barca or Bayern or PSG to be in such a superior setup week in week out.
Lets face it every team in for him this summer will be offering a great salary. So the money aspect can almost be ignored.
Amorim and playing for one of the biggest club in the world would be the pull in United’s favour.
Arsenal have gone 20+ years without winning the league, so you can always find an angle to praise/criticise any proposal to him.
I have watched him for years playing for Sweden and Isak is the more talented allround footballer. So there are of course concerns but I would pay the 25m extra to get Gyökeres ahead of Delap, but it is not a given. Delap probably has more potential to improve due to his lower age.
Definitely prefer him to Delap. He could smash it for us or Arsenal I just don’t think it’s a certainty and his age brings an added risk factor. But considering the market this summer he is still the best option by far.
I never expected him to translate from playing in La Liga so smoothly,geordies got an absolute bargain
He doesn't need to score 40 goals per season; we'll need time for that. Let's say he scores half of them. He'd still be a better option than Delap, who would need to repeat his 12-league-goal feat before we could say whether he was a decent transfer or not. Not to mention Hojlund. I'd gladly pay an extra £25m if we have any chance to sign him.
Yep.. it'll be interesting to see what happens if we win the EL. But I think Arsenal are just going to give Arteta Gyokeres and say, okay, go win something. If he still fails Arteta's probably out.
Yeah he's easily worth that extra £25m, now to quote Keano we need to do our job and win in Bilbao
I could see them going for Ekitike or Sesko though, as they would be younger and they have the financial power to get them (also do some weird transfer decisions). But the rumors imply that Gyokeres is their no.1 CF target.
Yeah horrible feeling they are too far down the line
I feel like Arteta will find signing Gyokeres entirely too obvious.
Some Standard journo called Simon Phillips, nah me neither is claiming Arteta wants Sesko but Berta is pushing for him
Win on Wednesday night and Gyokeres chooses us over Arsenal
He’ll handle the premier league easy. He’s built like a monster. Plus he’s played English football in the Championship. If we win Wednesday he’ll choose us over Arsenal and he knows Amorims system.
He can join a team that has hit it's peak and still failing to win major trophies (and that includes a very lucky injury-free period), or he can join a team that is miles away from the peak where anything can happen. If he's a high risk high reward kind of person he'll go to United.
How good is he technically for those who watch him consistently? Watching Rasmus over the last year, I'd really appreciate a player with decent technical quality!
A bit like Oshimen I wouldn’t say it’s his strongest point. But really I don’t think there’s any super technical all round centre towards out there today. They’re either a penalty box merchant or a powerhouse.
Watched sporting in Lisbon a few weeks ago and his best features (which I believed beforehand) were exactly that. His strength is unreal, work rate, running at players and working the channels but nothing special technical wise.
But I wouldn’t be concerned by that cos I just don’t think it’s a common feature amongst modern day centre forwards. He was awesome in the championship with Coventry and many championship strikers with his attributes (Watkins, Toney etc) have stepped up to the Prem.
First poster I’ve seen say this; his time in the Championship seems to only be used as a stick to beat him with, not that I believe many were watching him then.
Ahem.
That was a good Championship year, too. Mostly watched Sunderland and Middlesbrough for Amad and Carrick that season, but saw Coventry enough too.
Tbh you cannot discount the impact Amorim has had too. Bruno unfortunately wasn't as lucky to play in such a well functioning side.
I don’t know where this was in the abyss. First time to my eyes! Great to see posts like yours and Luden’s as they re-frame the notion that he randomly popped up in Portugal and went stratospheric. Sounds like he was already on his way!
You replied to the second one, which was a reply to you!
I’m old enough not to recall.*laughing here.
Edit: perhaps I should be worried as I have no recollection of that!
To be fair it was a short conversation ages ago when Sporting spanked City. I happen to remember that bit of the evening fairly well as I dragged 14 Greek uni students away from fireworks to a pub to watch it. Afterwards, mind...
*laughing here.
Edit: perhaps I should be worried as I have no recollection of that!