"80 Million Pounds of Inspiration"

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Bloody hell, you are spouting a huge amout of shite tonight. I agree we we lacking some inspiration, but the midfield was pretty decent, we moved the ball quickly and well at times, but we struggled to get any runners in.

The charachter was there for all to see, we stood up physically against an aggressive side and got stuck in all game. There was no lack of charachter, just quality in the final third.
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Can't agree, however i'm not going to degrade your opinion to "spouting a huge amout of shite", so class.

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Clearly, you seem to know it all and since you are so blinded by the fact that ronaldo's transfer is the undoing of our team, I'll leave you to it. Continue to make yourself look like a fool.
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What are you on about exactly?

Please, inform me because you seem to be on quite the reach to put down my "fact", or so you think i'm stating what I see as "fact".

Ronaldo's departure is not the un-doing of the side, again there YOU go making YOURSELF look like a FOOL by claiming that was my point... The Point was, WE LACK INSPIRATION, it left with Ronaldo, Tevez and hasn't been re-gained... I'm not saying we don't have the potential or capabilities to do it (Mr.Rooney and Mr.Giggs come to mind), but we need a fecking spark.

I give you all the respect in the world if you find unlimited optomism in this situation, however maybe you should respect the fact some of us see some issues in this side and would like to open discussion in an open forum for constructive critisism.

Too much to ask, it IS the caf afterall.
 

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we all support the same fecking side this is shameful attacking each other.
 

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why dont you bump one of the other thousand threads then rather than creating a bloody new one everytime?
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Link me if you will to these "created bloody new ones" that I seem to be making.

No need to be a ironfisted arse because you have power mate, we have opinions, this is fresh in terms of content ( inspiration - Google Search ... Really doens't offer much to bump) and it's sparked an interesting conversation.

It's less about Ronaldo than the title suggests, which is why you READ a fecking thread.
 

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Surprised someone in the MotM thread too. I thought he put in a tireless display, closing down, putting the foot in, played a cracking through ball in first half, got forward well. I think people are forgetting how much we dominated that first half.

You only have to look at how much he was missed after the sending off.
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Well, I have been critical of Fletcher, a lot to be honest. But I am often in the minority. But as much as I try to see what everyone else seems to see, I can't. I just see him running round everywhere but not actually putting his foot in and winning ball (without fouling). I see him dwell on the ball and lose it, and see him give the ball away a lot.

I am not arguing my point here btw, as I know 90% of you will not be shy in telling me how wrong I am, I just don't see it myself. Sorry.
 

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Anderson Searl said:
Link me if you will to these "created bloody new ones" that I seem to be making.

No need to be a ironfisted arse because you have power mate, we have opinions, this is fresh in terms of content ( inspiration - Google Search ... Really doens't offer much to bump) and it's sparked an interesting conversation.

It's less about Ronaldo than the title suggests, which is why you READ a fecking thread.
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Dont get fecking uppety with me, you're not that good a poster
 

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datura said:
It's the truth. You are a terrible football poster.
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golden_blunder said:
Dont get fecking uppety with me, you're not that good a poster
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:lol: Jesus lads, an opinion and you resort to the OBVIOUS attacks that are as old as my membership on this website.

I'm not a fecking idiot, i'm not a great football poster, what's your fecking point?

It's actually been a bit of a focus of mine to attempt to post in the football forums more with a better diologue and better posts, I see nothing bloody wrong with what i've said, but it's good to see OPINIONS getting shot down as if i'm preach some sort of pro-nazi gospel.

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Anderson Searl said:
I'll probably be called a WUM or whatnot, called a baby because I can't get over it, but it's becoming more and more clear we're missing inspiration above all.

I know I know, we could have improvements in all field of the side it seems, but one thing this club doesn't have at all, is character... Sometimes that is the only trend you need to turn a 1-1 draw into a 2-1 victory.

From the back, inspiration is missing... In the middle, it seems like cookie cutter training football... On the flanks, it's one-dimensional football, and up front, well let's just say Mr.Rooney is not a lone striker with his distribution and layoffs.

Kneejerk? Maybe, I don't know, I wish there was a Larsson-type loan deal that could be made if Fergie is so against buying/doesn't have the funds to.

We're missing, like it was said during the match, 80 Million pounds of inspiration.
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i was going to sart an exact same thread. indetical, really.

we don't miss Ronaldo per se, we miss a player who can win games by himself. somebody capable of moments of magic, somebody who scores when we don't deserve to get a goal.

Ronaldo has not been replaced not in terms of quality but in terms of capability to win games single handedly.
 

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His team selections show this. Everytime we play somewhere classed as "tough at home" or one of the big boys, he goes with the 5 man midfield and Rooney up top alone. We all shout for two up front, but has that really worked for us either this season? In parts, yes, but really there are quite a few things a miss.

Don't think Fergie will change his ways with his selection, as he could have quite easily gone with Owen-Rooney tonight with Diouf on the bench.

I do really think he has his hands tied with regards to the 80m from Ronaldo, but even if he had it, would be a struggle now to change things. We must wait untill the summer.
 

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Ron was a freak - missing him is unavoidable. I miss the threads where people used to complain about his goal celebrations, body language, failure to track back, temper tantrums, taking too many freekicks, screwing up crosses - above all I miss people complaining about SAF using him as a lone striker and thus confining Rooney to the indignity of playing leftwing.

80m of inspiration? Well that's what Madrid paid for (and got) Do we miss it? Sure, but we miss our injured defenders, a younger Scholes, an in-form Carrick, someone to make space for Rooney. 11 players and hardly any of ours are on their best form right now.

United still look to me like favourites to win the League - if only because no one else is flying. The cups are the same as always - luck, mistakes, inspiration can change everything in an instant. What would strengthen the team? A run of good results!
 

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80m of inspiration? Well that's what Madrid paid for (and got) Do we miss it? Sure, but we miss our injured defenders, a younger Scholes, an in-form Carrick, someone to make space for Rooney. 11 players and hardly any of ours are on their best form right now.
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And that was a point I was hoping would come up too in making this discussion, I was actually quite forceful to push those cases.

I think if we ever see our "Best XI" this season, it'll be like watching headless horsemen... There's not alot of chemistry when Giggs isn't on the pitch, and even when he is on as of late he's been a bit dodgy.

All I know is Rooney, if he'd been deployed as a striker and only a striker all his career, would be better at distribution and laying off the ball... For a world class "striker" he's absolutely awful at it.
 

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Hargreaves makes comeback in training match
Author : Stretty Filed under: Manchester United News

Owen Hargreaves has finally returned to action for Manchester United, albeit in a specially arranged training match.

Regardless, I for one am pleased to see him finally looking like he’ll make a comeback some time soon. There were certainly times when I had doubts over his ability to make it back at all, but the signs are now looking good.

Yesterday’s training game, reported by the News of the World, is Hargreaves first game in over 16 months and represents a significant step on the road to recovery.

Hargreaves apparently played the whole 90 minutes and came through it unscathed.

Having a fully fit Hargreaves back in the side will be like having a new signing, which is just as well as we apparently have no money.
 

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:rolleyes:

so bad in fact that Ronaldo has been championing Rooney to join him at Madrid, despite the likes of Benzema, Raul etc being there
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Still on the Anderson Searl target are we? Keep at it geebs, you know for a fact i've never ever had a problem with you and, and now I look like im your flavor of the week to attack for zero reason. Keep at it, maybe people will take notice that i'm working on being a better football poster and I can send you a box of wine.

If you can say that Rooney's distribution is at a level it should be then you have zero idea what you're talking about, and im not question your logic or opinion at all... HOWEVER, more times than not, and this has been all season, with his back to goal and in trnsition oppourtunities, Rooney is long the ball... Layoffs deflected or interceptions, passes cut out or over hit, basically if there's no real "run of play" he's near useless... If he's a world class striker he needs these attributes and he doesn't have them, which is why that title is still in question.

And I put "striker" in quotations because he's more a forward than a striker anyways.
 

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Anderson Searl said:
Still on the Anderson Searl target are we? Keep at it geebs, you know for a fact i've never ever had a problem with you and, and now I look like im your flavor of the week to attack for zero reason. Keep at it, maybe people will take notice that i'm working on being a better football poster and I can send you a box of wine.

If you can say that Rooney's distribution is at a level it should be then you have zero idea what you're talking about, and im not question your logic or opinion at all... HOWEVER, more times than not, and this has been all season, with his back to goal and in trnsition oppourtunities, Rooney is long the ball... Layoffs deflected or interceptions, passes cut out or over hit, basically if there's no real "run of play" he's near useless... If he's a world class striker he needs these attributes and he doesn't have them, which is why that title is still in question.

And I put "striker" in quotations because he's more a forward than a striker anyways.
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Yes, it's those little 5 yard passes that Rooney is messing up. He's scoring goals all right but often when we are building our attack patiently and it moves into the final third, the midfield passes the ball to Rooney and our attack ends there because he can't find another teammate. This could be because other players aren't making proper runs, but surely there has to be someone who he can lay it off to and make a run himself. Instead, he, more often than not, finds the opposition player. It seems as if the midfield and forwards are not on the same page which is why our attack breaks down so much.

golden_blunder said:
:rolleyes:

so bad in fact that Ronaldo has been championing Rooney to join him at Madrid, despite the likes of Benzema, Raul etc being there
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That's probably because of the Rooney Ronaldo partnership. Both know how the other plays; Ronaldo likes scoring goals and he needs players like Rooney to do the work for him so he can score.
 

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I thought you said this wasn't a Ronaldo thread?

If you are looking to discuss United's lack of character, I suggest you take a good hard look at yourself and find yours first.
 

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Everything will sort ou soon... please excuse for my ignorance, but where on earth is Obertan?
 

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If you can't handle it the first time, no point asking me to cum again...
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Pardon me but I don't exactly understand what the feck you're saying or who the feck you are.

The thread was made with the intentions to talk about the lack of character in the squad, and yes I mentioned Ronaldo and Tevez, but not their departures as much as who in this squad can bring that spark... What in gods name does that have to do with MY personal character?

You need to sit on a nail.
 

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Searly I wouldn't take Geebs abuse as a personal attack. He made it clear enough that he's sick of the doom and gloom bullshit last week, and this thread just seems to tip the scale a bit. Pressure's been building of late and its bound to happen sooner or later. What your saying is moderately true, but the constant reminder while we're going through a bit of a shit period 'not really shit in the grand scheme of things' annoys the feck out of everybody. As I said, its not a pot shot at you, its been the entire Manchester forum for the past week. Its either Glazer or we don't have Ronaldo and we need new players. Just gets a bit repetitive.
 

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We're missing a lot more than just inspiration, moments of brilliance from one player who can change the game. There is a technical side as well as other facets to our troubles as well. We have no:

1. Good free kick taker
2. Header of the ball
3. Great crosser of the ball
4. A dribbler who is going to unlock defences
5. A world class goal keeper that defence has confidence in.
6. No captain. When Keane was injured,our performance suffered on a regular basis; when he would come back, it improved by 50%, like we had a 2 player advantage over the opposing team. Rio doesn't do that; Neville, are you having a laugh? None of our players are afraid of these lads, let alone the opposition. Who can stand up to a player like Vieira like Keane did from our current bunch?
7. Some players shouldn't be in the club
8. Some players should be on the bench, not starting XI
9. Too many injuries
10. Normal bad form that players go through from time to time
11. Fergie playing Rooney out of position to justify the price tag for Berbatov. Rooney is a forward, but so is Berbatov, so Wayne is pushed up in the striker's role.
12. Proper striker. Without the likes of Ronaldo and Tevez, it just doesn't work to have no regular lead the line striker
13. Add inspiration to all the above, and you have a team that is

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Anderson Searl said:
Pardon me but I don't exactly understand what the feck you're saying or who the feck you are.

The thread was made with the intentions to talk about the lack of character in the squad, and yes I mentioned Ronaldo and Tevez, but not their departures as much as who in this squad can bring that spark... What in gods name does that have to do with MY personal character?

You need to sit on a nail.
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Here's your answer.

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Spine and balls
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marchi-91 said:
:lol: that whole sentence just has a completely different connotation associated with it.
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It was meant that way.
 

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Nistelrooy10 said:
We're missing a lot more than just inspiration, moments of brilliance from one player who can change the game. There is a technical side as well as other facets to our troubles as well. We have no:

6. No captain. When Keane was injured,our performance suffered on a regular basis; when he would come back, it improved by 50%, like we had a 2 player advantage over the opposing team. Rio doesn't do that; Neville, are you having a laugh? None of our players are afraid of these lads, let alone the opposition. Who can stand up to a player like Vieira like Keane did from our current bunch?

AVERAGE
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I am surprised this is not getting more attention. This is a big one for me. Take the Birmingham game for example. We were easily outplaying a solid team in their backyard for 35 minutes. Then we concede a goal. After that we didn't look interested and basically fell apart until we scored the equalizer. And at that point we didn't even deserve it. Our heads just dropped too easily and I couldn't see the spark from anyone.
 

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Nistelrooy10 said:
We're missing a lot more than just inspiration, moments of brilliance from one player who can change the game. There is a technical side as well as other facets to our troubles as well. We have no:

1. Good free kick taker
2. Header of the ball
3. Great crosser of the ball
4. A dribbler who is going to unlock defences
5. A world class goal keeper that defence has confidence in.
6. No captain. When Keane was injured,our performance suffered on a regular basis; when he would come back, it improved by 50%, like we had a 2 player advantage over the opposing team. Rio doesn't do that; Neville, are you having a laugh? None of our players are afraid of these lads, let alone the opposition. Who can stand up to a player like Vieira like Keane did from our current bunch?
7. Some players shouldn't be in the club
8. Some players should be on the bench, not starting XI
9. Too many injuries
10. Normal bad form that players go through from time to time
11. Fergie playing Rooney out of position to justify the price tag for Berbatov. Rooney is a forward, but so is Berbatov, so Wayne is pushed up in the striker's role.
12. Proper striker. Without the likes of Ronaldo and Tevez, it just doesn't work to have no regular lead the line striker
13. Add inspiration to all the above, and you have a team that is

AVERAGE
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Oh, and add one more thing to the list - football brain. I swear, this is the stupidest bunch of midfielders/forwards we've had for a while. Nani, Park, Valencia, Obertan - all are too predictable and seemingly have no idea when to release the ball. Rooney is suffering from playing too many games and his passing/shooting has been horrible.
 

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Nistelrooy10 said:
We're missing a lot more than just inspiration, moments of brilliance from one player who can change the game. There is a technical side as well as other facets to our troubles as well. We have no:

1. Good free kick taker
2. Header of the ball
3. Great crosser of the ball
4. A dribbler who is going to unlock defences
5. A world class goal keeper that defence has confidence in.
6. No captain. When Keane was injured,our performance suffered on a regular basis; when he would come back, it improved by 50%, like we had a 2 player advantage over the opposing team. Rio doesn't do that; Neville, are you having a laugh? None of our players are afraid of these lads, let alone the opposition. Who can stand up to a player like Vieira like Keane did from our current bunch?
7. Some players shouldn't be in the club
8. Some players should be on the bench, not starting XI
9. Too many injuries
10. Normal bad form that players go through from time to time
11. Fergie playing Rooney out of position to justify the price tag for Berbatov. Rooney is a forward, but so is Berbatov, so Wayne is pushed up in the striker's role.
12. Proper striker. Without the likes of Ronaldo and Tevez, it just doesn't work to have no regular lead the line striker
13. Add inspiration to all the above, and you have a team that is

AVERAGE
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It seems to have escaped you attention that the vast majority of this AVERAGE squad have at least 3 Premier league and 1 Champions League medal.

How do you replace Ronaldo? Impossible, even if you had 800M to spend.
 
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