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Hehe, "singled out" is a bit misleading isn't it?

The entire back four, Obertan, Norwood and Evans were heaped praise upon.
Obertan and the defense were praised for the goal and the defending that game.

These two were singled out for their attitude.
 

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Obertan and the defense were praised for the goal and the defending that game.

These two were singled out for their attitude.
From the article:


"That's an important thing and Ole and Warren have maintained that attitude right through the team"

Not really.
 

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Eikrem looks good but not special. Im not convinced by his brain.
The likes of Eikrem and Petrucci are more gifted than Norwood, to be fair. Given what Cleverley's done at Watford though, I can't wait to see more of him during United's pre-season (if he's recovered, that is).

We have a vast array of quality midfielders coming through, which is encouraging when you consider that we may be looking for more options there in the next 1 or 2 years. Even in the academy, you've the likes of Tunnicliffe and Pogba, and it's also easy to forget that we still have a potentially extraordinary player in Anderson if he sorts himself out after his injury.
 

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Eikrem looks good but not special. Im not convinced by his brain.
That’s a bit odd. I’d level the same accusation at Norwood. For me his lack of any level of acceleration will always hamper him. Eikrem isn’t exactly fast but he has that little bit more than Norwood, which ultimately will probably be the difference.

Then again I think we should hold on to him for another 2 years even if hes only out on loan. He’ll soon be a full international with NI and I reckon we can get a decent fee for him at some point in the future
 

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Eikrem looks good but not special. Im not convinced by his brain.
That is a rather strange comment. From when he joined it's been fairly obvious what a good appreciation of the game he has, the doubts were about his physique and stamina to compete going up the age groups.

I haven't seen too many young players in recent years who read a game as well as him, and his vision and awareness of space are excellent.
 

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No offense but Norwood has been around for a while now, have you only started watching him of late?

He's nowhere near the most promising player in the reserves and wasnt either in the academy. Hes technically very impressive, a great striker of a dead ball and has a accurate and impressive range of passing. I dont see him making it at United personally. Cant pick out any one reason why but I dont think he posseses the desire and drive to make it in the centre at the top level and equally hes no where near mobile enough to play on the wings. I reckon the david jones route will be his best hope of success in the long term.
Couldn't agree more.

Morrison, Pogba, Eikrem, Cleverley and Petrucci are all far, far more impressive from midfield IMO, and even then most of those players won't make it.

EDIT: and how could I forget Matty James...
 
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That is a rather strange comment. From when he joined it's been fairly obvious what a good appreciation of the game he has, the doubts were about his physique and stamina to compete going up the age groups.

I haven't seen too many young players in recent years who read a game as well as him, and his vision and awareness of space are excellent.
Spot on.
 

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That is a rather strange comment. From when he joined it's been fairly obvious what a good appreciation of the game he has, the doubts were about his physique and stamina to compete going up the age groups.

I haven't seen too many young players in recent years who read a game as well as him, and his vision and awareness of space are excellent.
You really are underestimating Norwood. Lets not talk about Eikrem any more.

Have you seen Norwood's passing? His set pieces are also amazing. He is an extremely clever player. I accept he is not the most physical like Pogba and King, who more people will get excited over because of their speed and power, but Norwood is the star, easily, amongst this reserve side.
 

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You really are underestimating Norwood. Lets not talk about Eikrem any more.

Have you seen Norwood's passing? His set pieces are also amazing. He is an extremely clever player. I accept he is not the most physical like Pogba and King, who more people will get excited over because of their speed and power, but Norwood is the star, easily, amongst this reserve side.


 

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You really are underestimating Norwood. Lets not talk about Eikrem any more.

Have you seen Norwood's passing? His set pieces are also amazing. He is an extremely clever player. I accept he is not the most physical like Pogba and King, who more people will get excited over because of their speed and power, but Norwood is the star, easily, amongst this reserve side.
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Who do you think Pogue?

If you say Keane, I can kind of agree.
Keane is an academy player. I don't think he's started a reserve game yet.

I'd say Eikrem has the most potential, personally. He's definitely improved more than Norwood in the last year or so.

Mind you the most improved reserve player of all is Olly Gill IMO.
 

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You really are underestimating Norwood. Lets not talk about Eikrem any more.

Have you seen Norwood's passing? His set pieces are also amazing. He is an extremely clever player. I accept he is not the most physical like Pogba and King, who more people will get excited over because of their speed and power, but Norwood is the star, easily, amongst this reserve side.
People aren't really excited about Pogba and King solely for their speed and power, both are very good technically, skilful and score goals.

I really can't see why you think that Norwood is the star, as he's been outshone this season by Eikrem, Evans, King, James, and others. The only game he really shone in was a match against Oldham who were extremely poor and not used to playing against the standard of United at that level. Other than that he had a fairly poor start to the season playing in an unfamiliar role on the right, and his latest performances have shown improvement playing in a deeper central position.

As for his passing, he has a good range of passing but I think he tries the difficult ball too often and can be careless with his short passing. His set pieces are good, but no better than Brady or Eikrem.

As I said before, it is his first full season at Reserve level and he's yet to show the form from the Academy in the previous year so I can't really see why you are going so overboard in your praise of him at this moment. I think next year is a big season for him, he needs to increase his consistency and have more impact in the games than he has shown for the majority of the reserve season to date.
 

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I was about to say... Keane the most impressive player in the reserves? I think he's played about 4 games for them, and all from the bench.

The most impressive all round player in the reserves for me would be Evans, with Eikrem not far behind.

And your point on Gill Pogue, He has looked very sound when played at centre back but every time he's been put at left back he's made mistake after mistake. Hopefully we'll keep him in the centre from now on.
 

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You just know Scholesy is basing his opinion on a single game and a couple youtube clips.

Always the same with him.
 

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Pretty much, lads. "I'm not convinced by his brain."
 

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People aren't really excited about Pogba and King solely for their speed and power, both are very good technically, skilful and score goals.

I really can't see why you think that Norwood is the star, as he's been outshone this season by Eikrem, Evans, King, James, and others. The only game he really shone in was a match against Oldham who were extremely poor and not used to playing against the standard of United at that level. Other than that he had a fairly poor start to the season playing in an unfamiliar role on the right, and his latest performances have shown improvement playing in a deeper central position.

As for his passing, he has a good range of passing but I think he tries the difficult ball too often and can be careless with his short passing. His set pieces are good, but no better than Brady or Eikrem.

As I said before, it is his first full season at Reserve level and he's yet to show the form from the Academy in the previous year so I can't really see why you are going so overboard in your praise of him at this moment. I think next year is a big season for him, he needs to increase his consistency and have more impact in the games than he has shown for the majority of the reserve season to date.
I agree, he is not suited to the wing. But from this deep lying playmaker position, it is like watching Scholes. Add to this, his exceptional set pieces, and this is why I rate him so highly.

I think if he played a little bit higher up the pitch, maybe swapping with Corry Evans or Possebon, then he would get a little bit more recognition.

Next season, will be important, if he can show some development physically. The talent and attitude are there.
 

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The more I see Norwood, my worries about post Scholes seem to fade quite quickly.

Fantastic passing, vision, brain and set pieces. An example of why when people will say Anderson's passing will improve or get 'more consistent', they don't realise that it cannot, you are born with talent, and Norwood is born a fantastic passer.

My only concern is his physical nature, he is not quick, looks rather small, but he will tackle fairly well. If he develops physically and puts in alot of hard work, then he will be great.

I haven't been this excited about a young player since Rossi.

This together with the left footed penalty kickers is my favourite redcafe opinion. Priceless, it is.


Of fecking course Anderson's passing can get more consistent. If he works on his passing it will get better.
 

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This together with the left footed penalty kickers is my favourite redcafe opinion. Priceless, it is.


Of fecking course Anderson's passing can get more consistent. If he works on his passing it will get better.
lol... agreed... passing can't be improved, oy vey! If he'd said vision can't be taught then I might've buttoned my lip, but...

And I find the comment about Eikrem odd too... if anything he's looked like one of the players with the best vision and awareness whenever I've seen him for the reserves.
 

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The more I see Norwood, my worries about post Scholes seem to fade quite quickly.

Fantastic passing, vision, brain and set pieces. An example of why when people will say Anderson's passing will improve or get 'more consistent', they don't realise that it cannot, you are born with talent, and Norwood is born a fantastic passer.

My only concern is his physical nature, he is not quick, looks rather small, but he will tackle fairly well. If he develops physically and puts in alot of hard work, then he will be great.

I haven't been this excited about a young player since Rossi.
Let me guess. Eagles, jones and richardson were special too.
 

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You just know Scholesy is basing his opinion on a single game and a couple youtube clips.

Always the same with him.
Aye, there was some lad at Hull who played 20 minutes or so against Chelsea and it was all he played at professional level, Scholesy labeled him one of the most talented youngsters in the league.
 

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This together with the left footed penalty kickers is my favourite redcafe opinion. Priceless, it is.


Of fecking course Anderson's passing can get more consistent. If he works on his passing it will get better.
Quiet you, if you can't hit a 40 yard pinpoint pass at age 7 you don't stand a chance.
 

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Quiet you, if you can't hit a 40 yard pinpoint pass at age 7 you don't stand a chance.
Exactly.

That's basically what it breaks down to.

I understand that some have a talent for certain things, and that my vision and understanding of the game may never ever be as good as Paul Scholes' vision. But the idea that you can not improve basic skills is hilarious.
 

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In the squad for them match tomorrow, what are current opinions? I actually like the look of him, and as I put in the matchday thread thinks he's the kind of player who may look better at first team level than reserves. Will be interesting to see if he gets a game anyway.
 

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I don't think he's really kicked on since a good last year in the Academy and the up and coming midfielders (Morrison, Pogba, Tunnicliffe) look far more impressive currently, then you also have James, Drinkwater and Cleverley to come back.

This might be his only chance to feature for the first team.
 

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I don't think he's really kicked on since a good last year in the Academy and the up and coming midfielders (Morrison, Pogba, Tunnicliffe) look far more impressive currently, then you also have James, Drinkwater and Cleverley to come back.

This might be his only chance to feature for the first team.
Lots of talk about Morrison, Pogba and Tunnicliffe but James is the one I really thought had a great chance a couple of years ago. So mature for his age, just haven't heard anything on him since he's come back Preston.
 

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Jesus Christ, you're still on with this "cant improve" bullshit. I've trained with players personally who couldn't fecking kick a ball at age 15 and went on to play professionally. You're talking through your anus.