Chelsea 2:2 Manchester United

J_XO · Oct 20, 2018

Feels like we’ve lost. A draw before the game seemed a good result but looking back now, we should be buzzing with all three points. Would have been a crucial win.

AaronRedDevil · Oct 20, 2018

Really gutted. Could have finally won after all those years. Really negative way to go into a Juventus game Tuesday.

lex talionis · Oct 20, 2018

Poor in the first half, but we were the better side in the second half. Gutted to see us concede at the death, but no complaints with the draw.

redIndianDevil · Oct 20, 2018

Buster15 said:
It really does.
On the plus side we were at least the equal of Chelsea on the day and the boys showing significantly more fight. Played well at times.

Much more like it but we paid the price for time wasting.

I don't get time wasting in football at all, it puts more even more pressure during the extra time.

Red00012 · Oct 20, 2018

A lot of ball watching going on by Utd from when Luiz won the header to when the ball hit the net.

iluvoursolskjær · Oct 20, 2018

Lukaku and Sanchez are infuriatingly shit

crossy1686 · Oct 20, 2018

RedTillI'mDead said:
Ok I concede, but I want to throw my toys out of the pram.....!

You can do that, I'm also fecking fuming. Where the feck did those 6 minutes come from? Mike Dean is a twat.

Sparky Rhiwabon · Oct 20, 2018

Terrible game management in the closing stages, why didn’t we just try to keep calm and retain possession instead of lumping it forward and trying to grab a third?

duffer · Oct 20, 2018

Reddy Rederson said:
To be fair, the stats made morata look amazing. But it’s pretty clear now why he had so few minutes at real compared to others. Knob end drops like a sack of spuds when the wind blows.

He had one nice moment (where he turned Smalling only to have a tame shot) but he seems to take every opportunity to come out of the box. Giroud is limited but he does not hide.

I'd honestly rather play with a front three of Hazard, Willian and Pedro.

Sparky Rhiwabon · Oct 20, 2018

crossy1686 said:
You can do that, I'm also fecking fuming. Where the feck did those 6 minutes come from? Mike Dean is a twat.

Yeah, he pulled 6 minutes out of his arse. Should have been 4 by my reckoning

crossy1686 · Oct 20, 2018

Sparky Rhiwabon said:
Yeah, he pulled 6 minutes out of his arse. Should have been 4 by my reckoning

No one's talking about that because it's trendy to bash Jose instead. Someone should be highlighting the state of that decision.

rollingstoned1 · Oct 20, 2018

This game and result is a carbon copy of the game here in lvgs second season where Lingard scored a stunning goal and we faffed q counter at the end and conceded a shit equalizer to costa in injury time. This place is cursed and so are we against Chelsea. Had the shoe been on the other foot no way would we have drawn it at the end.

Salus Populi Suprema Lex · Oct 20, 2018

crossy1686 said:
No one's talking about that because it's trendy to bash Jose instead. Someone should be highlighting the state of that decision.

It was probably correct - half a dozen substitutions, any injuries, plus a couple of minutes time wasting.

VeevaVee · Oct 20, 2018

Ridiculous opening question from the interviewer

Anustart89 · Oct 20, 2018

Irrational. said:
Yeah apologies.

Absolute no mark should be punished. But he won't.

They might charge him if they can employ a body language expert to decipher what going into the United technical area and fist-pumping right in front of Mourinho means. Won't hold my breath though.

VeevaVee · Oct 20, 2018

11101 said:
Not really. Rashford was a good three minutes, 30 seconds for each goal, probably a minute or two for the messing around with the subs, plus a minute or two of other stoppages.

Rashford and the subs were the same thing. Be surprised if that took 3 minutes

crossy1686 · Oct 20, 2018

Salus Populi Suprema Lex said:
It was probably correct - half a dozen substitutions, any injuries, plus a couple of minutes time wasting.

No way was 6 minutes an accurate amount of injury time. We got done there, Mike Dean did that for a laugh, he can't just have a normal game, he has to do something to force a conversation about himself and his decisions. fecking loves the attention.

Anustart89 · Oct 20, 2018

Salus Populi Suprema Lex said:
It was probably correct - half a dozen substitutions, any injuries, plus a couple of minutes time wasting.

Six minutes is probably right if you account for every stoppage in this game. However, in the real world, one injury for cramp plus six subs has never resulted in six minutes being added in other games, which is why it was bollocks. You only see six minutes in absolutely exceptional cases otherwise, and this was by no means an exceptional game in terms of wasted time.

I mean, when a small team is in the lead against a big team the keeper takes 45 seconds to take a goal kick, starting in the 50th minute. Multiply that by ten and think of how many times six minutes are added in reality, and then today with one injury and a normal amount of subs amounts to six minutes.

If refs were consistent in adding proper time (which means adding more than ten minutes in certain games where time-wasting is rampant), then I've no problem with this. You just know though that there'll be a time-wasting shitfest during this weekend and we'll get four minutes added on, as we usually do.

11101 · Oct 20, 2018

VeevaVee said:
Rashford and the subs were the same thing. Be surprised if that took 3 minutes

It's pretty standard that added time for each sub is 30 seconds though, a minute if it takes longer. Plus 30 seconds for goals and cards.

VeevaVee · Oct 20, 2018

11101 said:
It's pretty standard that added time for each sub is 30 seconds though, a minute if it takes longer. Plus 30 seconds for goals and cards.

6 minutes doesn’t happen that often, and there wasn’t much unusual other than maybe an extra minute for the messy sub situation

Nikelesh Reddy · Oct 20, 2018

Yet another game of 2 halfs....Why the hell cant we be on the front foot right from the word go?We were just pathetic in the first half,we were horrendous....But as soon as we got the equaliser we just transformed completely.Our football was just brilliant to watch....Pogba,Martial,Lukaku were just terrific in the 2nd half.Delighted for Martial,Hopefully this will give him the confidence to really get back to his best.

All in all it’s a good point for us.If we keep playing like how we played in the 2nd half we”ll finish top 4 this season...

BrianMcClair'sBarnet · Oct 20, 2018

crossy1686 said:
You can do that, I'm also fecking fuming. Where the feck did those 6 minutes come from? Mike Dean is a twat.

Well 2 minutes is usually the go-to add on time for most games,plus another 4 with the silly substitution kerfuffle and then we get 6.Magic.

Anyway,its not Dean's fault that again United try to outsmart themselves and typically failing.
Why were we constantly giving the ball back to Chelsea ?
Just play it short from the goal kicks.

Canagel · Oct 20, 2018

One day we will get an attacking manager and this teams true potential will be unleashed.

BrianMcClair'sBarnet · Oct 20, 2018

Nikelesh Reddy said:
Yet another game of 2 halfs....Why the hell cant we be on the front foot right from the word go?We were just pathetic in the first half,we were horrendous....But as soon as we got the equaliser we just transformed completely.Our football was just brilliant to watch....Pogba,Martial,Lukaku were just terrific in the 2nd half.Delighted for Martial,Hopefully this will give him the confidence to really get back to his best.

All in all it’s a good point for us.If we keep playing like how we played in the 2nd half we”ll finish top 4 this season...

It not.Its awful.1 point does nothing for us or Jose.

shabz · Oct 20, 2018

We showed great grit and determination in the second half, the result was a kick in the teeth in the end. But the performance is more important for me in the long run. We seemed down and out this season and have not played well at all. The last two games we have stood up after going down and shown our qualities. Even Lukaku put in a shift in the second half and made himself busy. We should take confidence in the performance even if the result wasn't the one we wanted.

Our defence is still shaky and needs to be improved but we can kick on from here and not expect as doom and gloom of a season as feared a month ago.

glazed · Oct 20, 2018

Well is a shame not to win but I actually enjoyed that second half, which makes a nice change. Seemed like a fair result.

BrianMcClair'sBarnet · Oct 20, 2018

abdo99 said:
One day we will get an attacking manager and this teams true potential will be unleashed.

Need the right manager but also need the right players.Some of the players we have,in all positions,are just bang average.

Coops73 · Oct 20, 2018

Shite 1st the better team 2nd, it’s all a little bizarre but difficult to separate Mata and Martial for MOTM in my opinion. Lukaku was poor again, better in the 2nd half to be fair but annoyingly immobile at times.

Gives me a little more confidence going into the game on Tuesday.

Patrick08 · Oct 20, 2018

Dint watch the game. So we parked the bus in dying moments and they scored?

Reddy Rederson · Oct 20, 2018

duffer said:
He had one nice moment (where he turned Smalling only to have a tame shot) but he seems to take every opportunity to come out of the box. Giroud is limited but he does not hide.

I'd honestly rather play with a front three of Hazard, Willian and Pedro.

I’d have to agree with that. Giroud can be a great impact sub, but as you say , limited. Morata though, dear oh dear. I’d seen very much of him, and when he was linked with us I looked him up and his goal tally compared to the amount of minutes he had was very good. But I guess stats really don’t paint the whole picture. I was honestly a little pissed we got Lukuku and you got morata. What a difference a year makes. Now I think we both bought unwisely :lol:

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Seven Seas Sardines · Oct 20, 2018

RedTillI'mDead said:
Mourinho was bang on about needing better defenders. Yes he brought two, but they've not peaked at the level required yet and may never do

So he's bang on about being shite at both spotting defensive talent and organising a defense?

robinrooney · Oct 20, 2018

Lukaku and Matic need binning

SadlerMUFC · Oct 20, 2018

TsuWave said:

Just because I said to make the swap didn't mean that I wanted it to happen. At the time I thought Martial was leaving. At his age I would much rather have him stay. I just didn't think Mourinho wanted him...

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