It makes sense if you don't think about it.Don't you win titles from winning games?
It makes sense if you don't think about it.Don't you win titles from winning games?
Not ready for any minutes in that game? Why is he in the fecking squad then if not fit for any minutes in the game. But I'm sure you know betterMaybe that hes just back from injury and is obviously not quite ready? But i'm sure you know whether he's ready or not better than him
It's not as if this didn't happen under Ferguson?After Rafael's penalty we disappeared.
We miss SAF. He would raise hell!...
non-existent penalty given to Leicester and after that we lost our heads.I watched the game until United was 3:1 up and switched to Wolfsburg vs. Leverkusen and suddenly I see the 5:3 result for Leicester. What the hell happened here?
People will go on about you can't blame the ref's for losing and all that, well because MAN UTD lost LOLZ. But sorry, that was a shithouse performance from Clattenburg today and it completely changed the game.When a refereeing decision as bad as that first one was goes against you at a time where you're thinking about making changes, how could it not have such a negative effect? Unreal amount of bullshit. LVG will have to work hard now to restore confidence along the back-line. It has to be said, Rafael is alright and everything but he's so fecking unlucky I'd probably never play him again just for superstition.
The subs were not that bad.Once again Di Maria was our best player, so what do we do? Sub him. Makes complete sense.
We were looking good value and then he gave the penalty plus another and red for that penalty. How is that not changing the game?People blaming the ref are fecking embarrassing.
Clattenburg is not the reason we've fecked this up from 3-1 up to 5-3 down.
Like I said, he could have given him a wider berth, say a few metres, but all in all this was a disgraceful decision, and Rafael should be allowed to try to get between Vardy and the goal. If you really would argue for this kind of caution from defenders, football would change dramatically.So there's nothing Rafael could have done differently?
No other pace he could have run at?
No other spot he could have run to?
Blackett was there.
Yep agree but the ref is a disgrace and swung the momentum in their favour but we should/need to be more resolute. But still doesn't mask how shit he was and how much we caved against a little adversity. Great now listening to 2 ex Liverpool players!Can't blame Rafael for the first penalty as he hardly touched the player. Doesn't excuse bottling it and defending like the team is brainless.
this. Never have i agreed more with a post. The main reason why we lost was Clattenburg. Defence was poor, but not before the penalty. They throwed in the kicthen sink and we lost it. Clattenburg was the initiator though.Nobody is denying that. Clattenberg has to take the blame though, we were in total control with a 2 goal cushion pushing forwards with confidence and had them retreating into their own half fearing an absolute battering.
He gifted them a goal and all of a sudden they are 1 goal behind and throwing players forward with nothing to lose. Genuinely one of the worst refereeing decisions I have ever seen. Inexplicable and he should be held accountable for it, however he won't. He'll slip off to his room, out the back door and into a cloak of silence and protection under the FA.
"" ""When a refereeing decision as bad as that first one was goes against you at a time where you're thinking about making changes, how could it not have such a negative effect? Unreal amount of bullshit. LVG will have to work hard now to restore confidence along the back-line. It has to be said, Rafael is alright and everything but he's so fecking unlucky I'd probably never play him again just for superstition.
Agree , the only thing more embarrassing about the performance is the whinging about the officials, people stuck in total denial to what is going on and thinking that a different ref would somehow make us less crap.We can blame the officials if we want but that would be avoiding the blunt truth that we have been utterly dreadful.
Van Gaal needs to stop f*cking about with systems and get the team properly organised. The buck for this debacle stops with him.
Once again I'm not necessarily saying that De Gea had a particularly bad game. However you must admit that so far during the season De Gea has not looked like a player with a lot of confidence and he never looks like saving these one-on-ones or penalty's.Which of those goals would Courtois have saved???
He made a mistake being fouled? He hardly touched the lad when he fell like a sack of shit.Rafael did the same against Bayern. His fanboys forgot his mistakes while he was injured it seems.
You're right. I'll eat it but I wont fecking enjoy itI think you lose twice there sir...
Of course he was. Both penalties never should of happened due to fouling.People blaming the ref are fecking embarrassing.
Clattenburg is not the reason we've fecked this up from 3-1 up to 5-3 down.
Never heard it called that before.
Told the mrs why I've suddenly started sweatin and her response was at least they're not losing 5-0
She can go feck herself if she thinks I'm touching her roast
Written mediums aren't the best ones to get sarcasm across in, and certainly not weird out of the blue examples like the one you made.You don't get sarcasm do you?
We are not getting any decisions and LVG is being too nice.It's not as if this didn't happen under Ferguson?
so many goals went in,one lost count.
How do you forget it was the second goal, think for one second.
Mark Clattenburg