Manchester United 4:1 Leicester City

SwansonsTache · Sep 24, 2016

If Rooney is dropped a victory becomes even more important, since his defendants will be out in force if we loose or draw without him, and it might see him weasle himself back in.

The fact that a new player and a system without Rooney needs some time to gel is often lost on people. One match with 4-3-3 without Rooney and still loosing will have the "lewlz, told ya the problem wasn't Rooney" crew out in force.

The United Irishman · Sep 24, 2016

Ixion said:
If he is to be dropped I wish it was a slightly easier game to do it. This game is no gimmie and if we don't win it people will say it's because Rooney didn't start.

So what was the excuse against Feyenoord then?

Ixion · Sep 24, 2016

The United Irishman said:
So what was the excuse against Feyenoord then?

They scored an offside goal? And any away game in Europe is no gimmie either and Rooney was not the only change in that line-up.

The United Irishman · Sep 24, 2016

SwansonsTache said:
If Rooney is dropped a victory becomes even more important, since his defendants will be out in force if we loose or draw without him, and it might see him weasle himself back in.

The fact that a new player and a system without Rooney needs some time to gel is often lost on people. One match with 4-3-3 without Rooney and still loosing will have the "lewlz, told ya the problem wasn't Rooney" crew out in force.

We can also continue to lose games...Then they will have the excuse

The United Irishman · Sep 24, 2016

Ixion said:
They scored an offside goal? And any away game in Europe is no gimmie either.

It was a horrible performance and you know it

podurban2 · Sep 24, 2016

The United Irishman said:
So what was the excuse against Feyenoord then?

Well it will take some time regardless, right?

I don't think a single one of our players have been given the chance to play #10, Rooney has had that spot reserved for him for the last 2+ years. Can't expect a player and the team to just instantly gel.

Ixion · Sep 24, 2016

The United Irishman said:
It was a horrible performance and you know it

There were lots of changes to that line-up other than Rooney you know.

The United Irishman · Sep 24, 2016

Ixion said:
There were lots of changes to that line-up other than Rooney you know.

Exactly, thanks for strengthening my point...The whole team is shit at the mo

Ixion · Sep 24, 2016

The United Irishman said:
Exactly, thanks for strengthening my point...The whole team is shit at the mo

Or a team full of players playing their first game of the season can't be expected to be firing on all cylinders, especially away from home in Europe. But whatever suits your agenda I suppose.

Devil81 · Sep 24, 2016

Hoping for the following eleven today, assuming Mkhitaryn is still unfit.

De Gea
Shaw
Smalling
Blind
Valencia
Carrick
Herrera
Pogba
Mata
Rashford
Ibrahimovic

Nytram Shakes · Sep 24, 2016

im just hoping one of Blind or Carrick play in front of the back 4.

SwansonsTache · Sep 24, 2016

The United Irishman said:
Exactly, thanks for strengthening my point...The whole team is shit at the mo

Yes. But you can't have your #10 who is supposed to be your main creative outlet, and who in addition restricts the worlds most expensive player from playing in his preferred position, plus stops us from playing the formation that most suits us constantly being one of the worst performers. It is not like Rooney isn't just not starting attacks, he also occupies other players positions when playing, actively hinders our attacks and slows down general play.

How you can't see this is perplexing.

Dong Fangzhuo · Sep 24, 2016

DDG
Valencia
Bailly
Smalling
Blind
Carrick
Herrera
Pogba
Miki
Rashford
Ibra

Guessing on the back four, but that's the rumoured front six.

Santoryo · Sep 24, 2016

Rooney isn't getting dropped otherwise we would have heard some noises about it by now. I'm fully expecting him in the line up.

I just hope Mou play a true midfield 3 with Herrera. Hoping a MF to be functional with both Rooney and Fellaini involved is very limited and lack skills and energy to drive it forward.

jderbyshire · Sep 24, 2016

Devil81 said:
Hoping for the following eleven today, assuming Mkhitaryn is still unfit.

De Gea
Shaw
Smalling
Blind
Valencia
Carrick
Herrera
Pogba
Mata
Rashford
Ibrahimovic

Cracking line-up on paper, that, to be fair...

Pexbo · Sep 24, 2016

Santoryo said:
Rooney isn't getting dropped otherwise we would have heard some noises about it by now. I'm fully expecting him in the line up.

I just hope Mou play a true midfield 3 with Herrera. Hoping a MF to be functional with both Rooney and Fellaini involved is very limited and lack skills and energy to drive it forward.

Plenty of noises on twitter including journalists.

Tom Van Persie · Sep 24, 2016

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Lynty · Sep 24, 2016

Roosney said:
Fecking gloryhunters

I laughed

Devil81 · Sep 24, 2016

If Rooney is in fact dropped and we play equally as badly, will we be finding another scapegoat for the bad performances?

He's played badly no doubt, but so have the vast majority of the team. He's not the only player who seems to have lost the ability to control and pass a ball. Hopefully he takes his dropping like a man and comes back with much better form.

I'm not 100% writing him off just yet.

Santoryo · Sep 24, 2016

Countdown to the meltdown on the Caf when Rooney's name is in the line up :lol:

Scholesy · Sep 24, 2016

Rooney to come off bench and score the winner, that would be interesting

OnlyTwoDaSilvas · Sep 24, 2016

Devil81 said:
If Rooney is in fact dropped and we play equally as badly, will we be finding another scapegoat for the bad performances?

He's played badly no doubt, but so have the vast majority of the team. He's not the only player who seems to have lost the ability to control and pass a ball. Hopefully he takes his dropping like a man and comes back with much better form.

I'm not 100% writing him off just yet.

Dropping Rooney won't bring instant success. It will still take some time to then get the best out of Pogba and realising who the best midfield base is to support him. But the team just has to be built around Pogba, where it is currently built around Rooney.

Pexbo · Sep 24, 2016

Devil81 said:
If Rooney is in fact dropped and we play equally as badly, will we be finding another scapegoat for the bad performances?

He's played badly no doubt, but so have the vast majority of the team. He's not the only player who seems to have lost the ability to control and pass a ball. Hopefully he takes his dropping like a man and comes back with much better form.

I'm not 100% writing him off just yet.

Which other players have consistently lost the ability to control the ball, to pass the ball, to make tackles, intercept, head and generally do any of the basics?

The vast "majority of players" is a total over statement.

Ramshock · Sep 24, 2016

at you lot that think Rooney will be dropped

Santoryo · Sep 24, 2016

Pexbo said:
Plenty of noises on twitter including journalists.

Yeah just saw those now, one can hope. But I still see him starting which would make the meltdown in this place even more extreme with some of us being given hope that he might get dropped. It'll be brutal :lol:

Pexbo · Sep 24, 2016

Ramshock said:
at you lot that think Rooney will be dropped

I'm an eternal optimist. The disappointment is going to be very sore.

Santoryo · Sep 24, 2016

Ramshock said:
at you lot that think Rooney will be dropped

20 minutes to go before we find out. It's either going to be a meltdown or a complete joy fest in this place.

My heart is racing :keano:

Walters_19_MuFc · Sep 24, 2016

All the talk shouldn't be about Rooney being dropped. It should be about us hoping we win the game, regardless of what team Mourinho puts out.

Djemba-Djemba · Sep 24, 2016

Devil81 said:
If Rooney is in fact dropped and we play equally as badly, will we be finding another scapegoat for the bad performances?

He's played badly no doubt, but so have the vast majority of the team. He's not the only player who seems to have lost the ability to control and pass a ball. Hopefully he takes his dropping like a man and comes back with much better form.

I'm not 100% writing him off just yet.

Why is Rooney given months and months of leeway for his shite performances, it's taken almost two years of him being terrible for him to be potentially dropped, but any potential replacement is given at most 90 minutes?

How is that fair?

Santoryo · Sep 24, 2016

19 minutes to go folks

shaggy · Sep 24, 2016

Djemba-Djemba said:
Why is Rooney given months and months of leeway for his shite performances, it's taken almost two years of him being terrible for him to be potentially dropped, but any potential replacement is given at most 90 minutes?

How is that fair?

Rooney fans conveniently ignore this...

sunama · Sep 24, 2016

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"Rooney has been dropped by Mourinho", followed by a picture of our attackers high fiving each other. :lol:

Born2Lose · Sep 24, 2016

Walters_19_MuFc said:
All the talk shouldn't be about Rooney being dropped. It should be about us hoping we win the game, regardless of what team Mourinho puts out.

It's sad that in the last 3 years, "hoping" to win has become the norm, unfortunately Rooney is a big part of that.

Djemba-Djemba said:
Why is Rooney given months and months of leeway for his shite performances, it's taken almost two years of him being terrible for him to be potentially dropped, but any potential replacement is given at most 90 minutes?

How is that fair?

It's the logic of a child, the logic of people who use words like "haters".

Devil81 · Sep 24, 2016

Pexbo said:
Which other players have consistently lost the ability to control the ball, to pass the ball, to make tackles, intercept, head and generally do any of the basics?

The vast "majority of players" is a total over statement.

I wouldn't, there is has been zero fluidity in our play for a long while now, I agree Rooney has been terrible, but I've seen plenty of top players underperforming over the last twelve months.

Pexbo · Sep 24, 2016

This is more exciting than some of our football. I bet it's more disappointing too.

Sigma · Sep 24, 2016

Ramshock said:
at you lot that think Rooney will be dropped

He will be dropped. No doubt about it

LouisDanGaal · Sep 24, 2016

dwd said:
Just seen a Leicester fan with 'HAZARD 82:38' on the back of his shirt.

I like that a lot

Android1974 · Sep 24, 2016

Contract negotiations would explain why Lingard was kept so much out of the team, like it happened earlier in the season with Fosu-Mensah. Hope Lingard is picked today, at least on the bench.

Djemba-Djemba · Sep 24, 2016

Pexbo said:
This is more exciting than some of our football. I bet it's more disappointing too.

True

Pexbo · Sep 24, 2016

Android1974 said:
Contract negotiations would explain why Lingard was kept so much out of the team, like it happened earlier in the season with Fosu-Mensah. Hope Lingard is picked today, at least on the bench.

From what perspective?

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