No it wasn’tOh dear. Just took a fresh look at it again.
A yellow card every single time, mate.
No it wasn’tOh dear. Just took a fresh look at it again.
A yellow card every single time, mate.
can United draw Chelsea, City or Liverpool if they finish 2nd in the group? I'd take Barcelona or Bayern next than playing in that bloody awful Europa league again.I expect a draw next week. However, it'll be Barca or Bayern in the next round.
It's an annoying aspect of the modern game. You pretty much can't go to ground at all. It is a contact sport, so some leeway should exist on a tackle by tackle basis. Fair enough if studs catch a player on the follow through or its excessively high/dangerous. This was a little harsh. But that's how it is.In the modern game, you can't go through the man even if you touch the ball first. We saw yellow cards for that kind of challenge all the time in the PL...and the CL takes a tougher stance. It wasn't close to being thuggish, but it was a clear yellow card offense.
But we all agree Ole played with fire by keeping Fred on and he got burned by the decision.
I can look at it every day of the week.Oh dear. Just took a fresh look at it again.
A yellow card every single time, mate.
The man himself said he should have taken Fred off. Everyone but the management team failed to see that Fred was a disaster waiting to happen.He was going to bring him on then Fred got sent off, then Marcus went off.
Agree. He must have known that PSG would target him.The man himself said he should have taken Fred off. Everyone but the management team failed to see that Fred was a disaster waiting to happen.
Perhaps you shouldn’t be training children then. Not that the tackle is horrendous, but it’s a classic case of ball and follow-through with (too much) force. The latter part is up for interpretation, the ref said yellow card and accumulated, it’s fair enough. Some say it’s not a free-kick, I say it’s a free-kick since the contact afterwards is obvious and that’s something Fred has to consider. He would never get the card if it’s his first tackle of the game, but like I said, accumulated from other tackles and his previous orange card. Not really controversial, some refs are lenient, some are not.I can look at it every day of the week.
It's not even a foul, let alone a card.
That's a textbook tackle. Any defensive midfielder is proud of that tackle.
I'd teach it to kids. Perfectly timed tackle.
I’m worried we might smash PSG. Worried that this place cannea take strain!
I haven’t seen that in a long, long time. Let’s do our part today, mates!
Perhaps you shouldn’t be training children then. Not that the tackle is horrendous, but it’s a classic case of ball and follow-through with (too much) force. The latter part is up for interpretation, the ref said yellow card and accumulated, it’s fair enough. Some say it’s not a free-kick, I say it’s a free-kick since the contact afterwards is obvious and that’s something Fred has to consider. He would never get the card if it’s his first tackle of the game, but like I said, accumulated from other tackles and his previous orange card. Not really controversial, some refs are lenient, some are not.
What you should be teaching kids is a tackle of the ball and avoid blasting studs into legs afterwards, which seems to be perfectly legit in your book.
Yep. Do think when the group was drawn though us needing a point in the last game to qualify would have been seen as more than acceptable by United fans so at this moment we’re still in a good position.Imagine now failing to qualify for the group stages after the start we had. A lost against PSG would arguably have been expected when we were looking at the draw but the lost to Istanbul will likely be the one that costs us qualification in the end.
True but I don’t think anyone imagined us winning the first two games. If we we fail to qualify now, it will be a disaster and falls on Ole for his poor in-game management. I’m not a firm Ole-out believer either, I want him to succeed but yesterday’s game was there for the taking and he failed to get a grip of the game when Tuchel made those changes.Yep. Do think when the group was drawn though us needing a point in the last game to qualify would have been seen as more than acceptable by United fans so at this moment we’re still in a good position.
I thought the 2nd half we started taking control of the game before the red card. It’s a pity Fred couldn’t keep his composure in the 1st half otherwise he was the engine in our midfield.I was working last night and have only just watched the match in full. My thoughts:-
Fred and McTominay are just a statuesque disaster in midfield. PSG were waltzing around them like a training game.
I was De Gea's greatest supporter when he first came and was getting dreadful flak, but I do think it is time for him to go.
When you see the state of both the Premiership and Champions leagues, it makes me weep that we did not strengthen in the summer. Both titles are wide open and we pissed about doing nothing.
No, he doesn't. He's been sent off once for us and once for Shaktar. You're talking right out of your arse here.We played well I thought. The difference was they took their (few) chances and we missed three sitters. As for Fred, he has a record of getting cards. I said when we signed him he was a walking red card. He, and Ole, should have known they would be after him to get him sent off after the Ref bottled it in the first half. Poor decision making from Ole.
I think the lack of composure was frustration down to being given a complete mauling in midfield. He may be an engine, but his and McTominay's passing are woeful, especially in the defensive third - it felt like PSG had two extra midfielders in the first half because the ball just went back to their midfield. I just don't understand Ole's blindness to certain players: when it comes to McTominay especially.I thought the 2nd half we started taking control of the game before the red card. It’s a pity Fred couldn’t keep his composure in the 1st half otherwise he was the engine in our midfield.
No, cannot play English teams or the team in the same group. So it'll be: Bayern, Barcelona, Dortmund or whoever wins Group B.can United draw Chelsea, City or Liverpool if they finish 2nd in the group? I'd take Barcelona or Bayern next than playing in that bloody awful Europa league again.
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