And what's stopping fullbacks from attacking and pushing higher up field in 4231 .As you said all formations can be defensive or attacking depending on the intent but you are basically sacrificing an attacker for defender when it's quite clear our fullbacks suddenly won't develop attacking prowess just because they are pushed up field.
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Manchester United 3:0 Sheffield United
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And what's stopping fullbacks from attacking and pushing higher up field in 4231 .As you said all formations can be defensive or attacking depending on the intent but you are basically sacrificing an attacker for defender when it's quite clear our fullbacks suddenly won't develop attacking prowess just because they are pushed up field.Must win.If Pogba does not start then Juan Mata has to.
It's 3 defenders and two wing-backs as opposed to a flat back 5. AWB and Shaw would act as wide midfielders for the majority of the game to provide the width and an attacking outlet from the flanks, at the same time allowing Pogba and Bruno more freedom to operate in midfield. It's very different from the unbalanced 5-3-2 we adopted in the 3-3 draw last time out.
We've struggled against a well-drilled backline all season long under the default 4-2-3-1, and I'm concerned we'll see a similar performance tonight which we cannot afford given recent rival results.
But but that's too defensive and only used against top 4...What channel is this on tonight?
Sky
Sky Pick as well which is free-to-air.
I would swap Shaw for Lindelof as LCB and Williams as LWB. AWB is a terrible wingback but there's not much we could do as the alternative is Dalot who is a terrible footballer.
Dave. We'll have seen it all before.
I assume sky sports have it too?!Big, big game this. We have to win this one to cement our challenge on those above us. I am confident that we will win this and do so quite comfortably. Sheff Utd have had a lot of games in a short space of time and are missing a few players for tonight. I really hope we get ahead early and then pick them off.
A win tonight will see us 2 back from Chelsea and 6 off Leicester. Chelsea are next up against City, then following that we have Brighton before both Chelsea and Leicester play again. We could very quickly find ourselves right in the mix. Time to kick on and make this season count lads!
I do like Williams, and I think he has a higher ceiling than Shaw, my only concern is if he has the stamina for the physically demanding wing-back role.
The 3-5-2 is only a defensive formation if deployed as such. This variant is very much attacking.De Gea
----Wan-Bissaka---Bailly---Maguire--------Shaw----
McTominay
Bruno-------Pogba
Greenwood---------Martial---------------Rashford
Then bring Matic on for McSauce at 60mins if not breaking them down.
It's free on Sky tonight and various other freeview outlets. Follow the link for all the options to watch the game:
https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/...mier-league-tv-channel-sky-sports-pick-452662
You want Mata to start because... he links up well with Bruno defensively?
I agree, its just many slate it to be defensive when it is not. However, when your players are scared to advance forward they can get stuck in 5-3-2 formation. With Williams thankfully, he likes to get forward, just worried about Bissaka not wanting to venture forward as much as Williams. But I'd definitely love to see this formation tonight. With so many subs, we can always just change it second half if its not working out.Last edited:
I’m no mathematician, but surely dropping two points is not the difference between us being 1 point behind and 6 points behind?!
This team wins tonight. Only change is put John O'Shea in goal instead of DDG!
My apologies it should have a coma there "Him and Bruno link up well ,defensively it might be under pressure if Pogba starts too" sorry dude a typo.You want Mata to start because... he links up well with Bruno defensively?
Think i'd go with Fred over McT but other than that i'd agree. I'd be very tempted to start Ighalo although on balance, Martial would just shade it for me.
Our full backs do normally push high in a 4231, which provides us with 5 or possibly 6 attacking players going forward, leaving the two centre backs and two defensive midfielders or one defensive midfielder and full back to defend.
My point, as I made it clear from my first post is that a 352 is not a defensive formation. People see three at the back and say its defensive. Its not!
Just look at the way Sheff Utd played prior to lockdown. They had overlapping centre backs, for crying out loud.Hit them hard! Score >3 goals!
DDG
AWB Lind Mag Shaw
McT
Pogba Bruno
Green Martial Rash---------------------DDG-----------------
AWB--Lindelod--Maguire--Shaw
------Matic------------------Fred--------
--------------------Bruno-------------------
Greenwood----Martial-----Rashford
Ideally i would want Pogba to start but apparently he felt very tired after the 27mins he played against Spurs. Probably start Fred and bring Pogba and McTom in the second half.
Usain Bolt is more mobile than both, should he play DM? McTominay is poor on the ball, he shouldn’t be starting. Matic needs to be first name on the team sheet until we get a new DM.
This isn’t considering his injuries. I don’t think Ole prefers to play McTominay over Pogba at all. Redcafe posters, however, there are probably quite a few!
Where has this absolute nonsense come from?Have to win this game! Reckon Ole will start with a strong lineup, there has been plenty of time to recover since last game against Spurs so, I only changed Greenwood out for James, otherwise same starting as last game.
A bit annoying that you can only choose three subs in the lineup prediction game since now there can be made 5 substitutions
Ethan, Son, wait your turn, you'll get your chance
Very good point!
By watching him play for 3 years.
Perhaps...but what do you expect him to say? That DeGea has been shite??
We've had a lot of joy with the 352 in the big games. Definitely don't see it being needed for most of our games left though. Leicester away and maybe if we get through in the cup and play a big side we should use it. Other than that.....433 and Greenwood comes in for me.
Yeah wasnt sure on Fred. But McTominay should have the strength on set pieces etc.
Had the same thought on Igahlo too, but. I think the main thing is to change it if it isn't working.. Dont leave it so late.
Surely there are other words in his vocabulary than being the best in the world or being shit?We have to see Williams tonight Shaw offers nothing when he’s not fit.
Also I’d start Matić, Pogba and Bruno together, chances are SU will sit deep and try to catch us on the break.
Hopefully Rashford and Martial will be sharper tonight, the third place maybe Greenwood looked lively when he came on against Spurs..
Your math is wrong.
He offers nothing when he is FITIs there a leaked team this week?Just remembered that Henderson can't play tonight, bonus- Status
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- Man Utd win
- Sheffield Utd win
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Detailed Results
- 38% Man Utd 2:0 Sheffield Utd
- 24% Man Utd 3:0 Sheffield Utd
- 11% Man Utd 2:1 Sheffield Utd
- 9% Man Utd 3:1 Sheffield Utd
- 6% Man Utd 4:0 Sheffield Utd
- 6% Man Utd 1:0 Sheffield Utd
- 2% Man Utd 1:1 Sheffield Utd
- 2% Man Utd 5:0 Sheffield Utd
- 1% Man Utd 0:0 Sheffield Utd
- 0% Man Utd 0:5 Sheffield Utd
- 0% Man Utd 4:1 Sheffield Utd
- 0% Man Utd 2:2 Sheffield Utd
Match Stats
- Man Utd
- Sheffield Utd
- Possession
- 68% 32%
- Shots
- 15 4
- Shots on Target
- 6 1
- Corners
- 10 5
- Fouls
- 10 6
Referee
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replaced by Andreas Pereira
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replaced by Scott McTominay
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replaced by Odion Ighalo
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replaced by Daniel James
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replaced by Juan Mata
