Manchester United 1:0 West Bromwich Albion

Borys · Nov 19, 2020

All players except Bruno and McTominay should be fresh for this one. Martial, Fred, AWB, Greenwood, van de Beek especially.

I'd consider starting Matic with Fred in midfield, or maybe even Pogba and Fred.

Any info on Shaw, Telles, and Lindelof and Rashford?

Gasolin · Nov 19, 2020

Martial had a back injury, so needs to confirm. Shaw is still out, no? 4 more weeks I think. Rashford had an issue with the shoulder if I am not mistaken and needs to confirm as well. Telles, I don't understand his COVID situation.

The rest should be able to play, hopefully Greenwood as well.

Havak · Nov 19, 2020

Borys said:
All players except Bruno and McTominay should be fresh for this one. Martial, Fred, AWB, Greenwood, van de Beek especially.

I'd consider starting Matic with Fred in midfield, or maybe even Pogba and Fred.

Any info on Shaw, Telles, and Lindelof and Rashford?

Last I heard, Shaw was expected to miss a month with his hamstring injury. He might be back with the squad for the Leipzig game on December 8th, but that could be an important game and then we play Man City the game after. It might be a big ask to come straight back into those kinds of fixtures with limited training/match fitness, but we'll see. He'll play a lot of minutes through December itself though I'm sure.

Telles I am sure will play at least some part over the next two games and beyond while Shaw is out. I'm 50/50 on him even starting both, but expect Williams will also need some time on the pitch as he's lacked real game time as well. I think the best thing to do will be to try and get them both up to speed with 90~ minutes each over the West Brom and Istanbul games (60/30 over each game for example).

I also agree with the midfield, I think it should be Bruno & Fred +1 and that 1 shouldn't be McTominay. With our next two fixtures we should be able to use van de Beek or Pogba instead of Scott and start Greenwood while we're at it, maybe even Cavani if Rashford isn't 100%. I'd like us to go back to McFred for the trickier set of fixtures after the next two: Southampton (A), PSG (H), Man City (A).

I'm hopeful for something like this:

de Gea
Wan-Bissaka Lindelof Maguire Telles
van de Beek Fred
Greenwood Bruno Rashford
Martial

If things have gone our way then bring on Matic for Fred or Bruno, Williams for Telles, Cavani for Rashford. I usually have a bad feeling for these kinds of games, but hopefully losing the late goal to Spurs knocked the stuffing out of them. They were looking a lot more solid and slightly more dangerous on the counter, but they are seriously missing that extra quality that is needed to survive at this level. If we can crack them in the first half I think we'll win about 4-0.

Nou_Camp99 · Nov 19, 2020

West Brom have actually beaten us at OT on a few of their recent trips haven't they? They are also going to park the bus and try and hit us on the break.

We should still win but this type of game is why we struggle. You need width to break down the low block. We don't have.

Lash · Nov 19, 2020

Nou_Camp99 said:
Brom have actually beaten us at OT on a few of their recent trips haven't they? They are also going to park the bus and try and hit us on the break.

We should still win but this type of game is why we struggle. You need width to break down the low block. We don't have.

Enter Telles...

Offside · Nov 19, 2020

We’ve been in the terrible habit for years at home of not scoring early enough which is vital in games like this. Problem is, we’re now also in the habit of losing at home in the first half which makes it impossible for us to win when playing against a low block. Nearly of our last few home games (Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs, Palace, West Ham, Southampton) we’ve either been 0-0 at half time or a goal down early on in the game and we haven’t won a single one.

Jaxa · Nov 19, 2020

It's a shame Internationals are over because we have to go back to watching United again

Santos J · Nov 19, 2020

Nou_Camp99 said:
West Brom have actually beaten us at OT on a few of their recent trips haven't they?

Yeah our last 5 home games against them we've W1 D1 L3. :nervous:

DWelbz19 · Nov 19, 2020

Poor home form, poor recent record against West Brom, poor form when returning from international breaks, potentially both Cavani and Martial are out...

What could go wrong, eh?

DomesticTadpole · Nov 19, 2020

11:22Marcus Banks
United 'given injury worry' ahead of West Brom
Manchester United are sweating on the fitness of both Harry Maguire and Victor Lindelof - according to reports.
ESPN claim Maguire will be assessed at Carrington today after suffering a foot problem with England.
The report adds United's medical staff are growing increasingly concerned over Lindelof's recurring back problem.

Lynty · Nov 19, 2020

DomesticTadpole said:
11:22Marcus Banks
United 'given injury worry' ahead of West Brom
Manchester United are sweating on the fitness of both Harry Maguire and Victor Lindelof - according to reports.
ESPN claim Maguire will be assessed at Carrington today after suffering a foot problem with England.
The report adds United's medical staff are growing increasingly concerned over Lindelof's recurring back problem.

Doesn't really matter. Tuanzebe is good enough cover and WBA aren't going to attack.

DomesticTadpole · Nov 19, 2020

Lynty said:
Doesn't really matter. Tuanzebe is good enough cover and WBA aren't going to attack.

Tuanzebe and whom? Presume Bailly if fit. Otherwise it will be Scottie at the back.

Samid · Nov 19, 2020

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No need to risk anything, field the kids Slaven.

treble_winner · Nov 19, 2020

Nou_Camp99 said:
West Brom have actually beaten us at OT on a few of their recent trips haven't they? They are also going to park the bus and try and hit us on the break.

We should still win but this type of game is why we struggle. You need width to break down the low block. We don't have.

We'll miss Fellaini's aerial threat.

hubbuh · Nov 19, 2020

Jaxa said:
It's a shame Internationals are over because we have to go back to watching United again

Scoring 3 at Goodison not good enough for you?!

bosnian_red · Nov 19, 2020

De Gea
Wan Bissaka Tuanzebe Maguire Telles
Fred McTomibat
Greenwood Bruno Rashford
Martial

My guess. Then midweek we go VdB/Matic/Pogba trio in midfield and Mata/Cavani and whoever up top.

ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg · Nov 19, 2020

Jaxa said:
It's a shame Internationals are over because we have to go back to watching United again

You can always watch something else

No Idea For Nickname · Nov 19, 2020

West Brom boss Slaven Bilic says a number of his players tested positive for Covid-19 during the international break.

Bilic lost Branislav Ivanovic and Matheus Pereira for the 1-0 defeat by Tottenham on 8 November after they supplied positive in the build-up to the game. Striker Callum Robinson also tested positive after going on international duty with the Republic of Ireland.

All three are clear to face Manchester United at Old Trafford on Saturday – but Bilic says he is still waiting on other members of his squad and has moved his side’s training schedule to allow time for the results to come in.

“We had a few players positive but I can’t say the names. We are doing everything we can. We are waiting for results.”

From BBC

Mike Smalling · Nov 19, 2020

Need a comfortable win here. WBA have no wins and the worst defensive record in the league so far.

We should consider playing Cavani from the start if he is available, so we have a physical presence and a real goal-getter in the box. Also wouldn't be opposed to seeing Mata in the starting line-up, as he is usually effective at unlocking stubborn defenses.

DomesticTadpole · Nov 19, 2020

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Strelok · Nov 19, 2020

Jaxa said:
It's a shame Internationals are over because we have to go back to watching United again

Yeah what a shame. Your post.

RashyForPM · Nov 19, 2020

4-3-3

De Gea
AWB Tuanzebe Maguire Telles
Bruno Fred VdB
Greenwood Martial Rashford

Now, this team would break WBA down. Should this 11 start, I’m going for a 4-0 win.

Schmeichel's Cartwheel · Nov 19, 2020

We better not play 2 DMs here. No need to be pragmatic against this shite.

DDG
AWB Tuanzebe Maguire Telles
Fred
Bruno VDB
Rashford Cavani Martial

Give them a hammering. Tuanzebe & Fred over Lindelof & Matic to prevent the quick counter attack.

kirk buttercup · Nov 19, 2020

Schmeichel's Cartwheel said:
We better not play 2 DMs here. No need to be pragmatic against this shite.

DDG
AWB Tuanzebe Maguire Telles
Fred
Bruno VDB
Rashford Cavani Martial

Give them a hammering. Tuanzebe & Fred over Lindelof & Matic to prevent the quick counter attack.

this team for me .

Offsideagain · Nov 19, 2020

3.30 on a Saturday? What’s going on? If we don’t get the three points, Woodward will be speed dialling Poch come 6pm after given Ole the kiss of death public vote of confidence. Shouldn’t matter who plays, if we have 16 fit players, a club such as ours should be able to field a team to beat the Baggies.

DomesticTadpole · Nov 19, 2020

Offsideagain said:
3.30 on a Saturday? What’s going on? If we don’t get the three points, Woodward will be speed dialling Poch come 6pm after given Ole the kiss of death public vote of confidence. Shouldn’t matter who plays, if we have 16 fit players, a club such as ours should be able to field a team to beat the Baggies.

It's been moved to an evening kick off as live on BT.

bsCallout · Nov 19, 2020

352

We need width in our play.

AWB Tuanzabe Lindelof Maguire Telles
Fred Pogba
Bruno
Greenwood Rashford

Rob67 · Nov 19, 2020

Jaxa said:
It's a shame Internationals are over because we have to go back to watching United again

I was thinking the exact opposite. Hate international breaks and can't wait to watch United again.

Offsideagain · Nov 19, 2020

DomesticTadpole said:
It's been moved to an evening kick off as live on BT.

Thanks for that information. The downside is Darren Fletcher will be commentating which drives me nuts as he never shuts up and there will be the fake crowd noise to deal with. My mute button is worn out

Alvaro Maestre · Nov 19, 2020

just void the league.

Strelok · Nov 19, 2020

Alvaro Maestre said:
just void the league.

You're a Liverpool fan :lol:

?

croadyman · Nov 19, 2020

Nicoseth said:
Really hope Cavani and VDB get starts. Think Telles will get the nod too. Looking at the run of games coming up we should start moving fairly rapidly up the table. Our home form has to improve, it can't get any

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Hopefully we get some confirmation on the Cavani situation

Withnail · Nov 19, 2020

Jaxa said:
It's a shame Internationals are over because we have to go back to watching United again

Feck that - I'm Irish. The International break was a shit show.

Bring on United matches!

Sassy Colin · Nov 19, 2020

Jaxa said:
It's a shame Internationals are over because we have to go back to watching United again

This post is shameful.

Schmeichel's Cartwheel · Nov 19, 2020

Jaxa said:
It's a shame Internationals are over because we have to go back to watching United again

We’re inconsistent, but one thing we’re not is boring. We’re either world class or diabolical. I always look forward to our games.

kirk buttercup · Nov 19, 2020

Jaxa said:
It's a shame Internationals are over because we have to go back to watching United again

Eh what ? I take it youre joking . Most internationals other than WC Euros etc are meh and if your Irish like me its even worse . Look forward to watching United again and see if we get Jekyll or Hyde this week

UnofficialDevil · Nov 19, 2020

Schmeichel's Cartwheel said:
We better not play 2 DMs here. No need to be pragmatic against this shite.

DDG
AWB Tuanzebe Maguire Telles
Fred
Bruno VDB
Rashford Cavani Martial

Give them a hammering. Tuanzebe & Fred over Lindelof & Matic to prevent the quick counter attack.

2 DM's are Ole's insurance. Cant play without.

PoTMS · Nov 19, 2020

Schmeichel's Cartwheel said:
We’re inconsistent, but one thing we’re not is boring. We’re either world class or diabolical. I always look forward to our games.

When we're shit, we're boring as feck. Those games against Chelsea, Arsenal and Istanbul Basaksehir are still fresh on the mind.

RedDevil@84 · Nov 19, 2020

Schmeichel's Cartwheel said:
We better not play 2 DMs here. No need to be pragmatic against this shite.

DDG
AWB Tuanzebe Maguire Telles
Fred
Bruno VDB
Rashford Cavani Martial

Give them a hammering. Tuanzebe & Fred over Lindelof & Matic to prevent the quick counter attack.

The moment Ole ditches the 2 DMs, our CBs decide to have a brainfart day

MikeKing · Nov 19, 2020

Alvaro Maestre said:
just void the league.

They should wait until Man Utd lead the league then we can void the league at that very moment. That we can celebrate being league title winners* like Liverpool was last year.

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