Sheffield United 3:3 Manchester United

RedCurry · Nov 14, 2019

P-Nut said:
But defensively ability out wide 1v1 is so much different than the middle of the park, where all your positioning and everything is different.

Let alone their ability on the ball isn't good enough to play there. Again, the angles are all massively different and time on the ball is massively reduced.

Fair points.

P-Nut · Nov 14, 2019

RedCurry said:
Fair points.

Add in the fact we've got Garner who is on the cusp of the squad, it'd be a slap in the face to take a full back (one of whom is a similar age) and play him in his position.

Schmeichel's Cartwheel · Nov 14, 2019

DDG
AWB Lindelof Maguire Young
Fred Andreas
James Mata Rashford
Martial

McTom for Andreas if fit. I've gone for Young over Williams, because I think this is a tough game to be throwing the youngster into away from home against a team with an exceptional home record.

charlenefan · Nov 14, 2019

Schmeichel's Cartwheel said:
DDG
AWB Lindelof Maguire Young
Fred Andreas
James Mata Rashford
Martial

McTom for Andreas if fit. I've gone for Young over Williams, because I think this is a tough game to be throwing the youngster into away from home against a team with an exceptional home record.

They've lost as many games at home as they've won? I agree it'll be a tough game but their home record certainly isn't exceptional

Schmeichel's Cartwheel · Nov 14, 2019

charlenefan said:
They've lost as many games at home as they've won? I agree it'll be a tough game but their home record certainly isn't exceptional

Fair dues, when you're right you're right. I don't know why I thought their home record was really good. I had the Arsenal win in my head, thought they'd won most of their points at home.

Lennon7 · Nov 15, 2019

RedCurry said:
Mentality: You clearly can see that they are fighters and won’t hide

defensive ability: They are both more than capable of protecting the defense since that’s their bread and butter

pace: they are both mobile and will not be over-run in the midfield

I feel those are pretty good reasons to play them, given we sorely lack options in that area.

There’s more to being a defensive midfielder than just being able to defend and get about. Their passing ability isn’t accurate or consistent enough and it’s likely their awareness in that area of the pitch could leave them open to getting dispossessed or dribbled past. Central midfield is probably the most complex area to play in and with no experience there I don’t think they’d be up to it.

I’m praying we buy a CM in January.

Alfie092 · Nov 15, 2019

Fairly confident about this one, then again you never know with us...

I think we will just about win a tough game, 2-1 is my prediction. We don't tend to concede too many goals, however, we do tend to let in a goal in most games

but I am starting to see signs that we are capable of scoring a few goals in a game and with Sheffield United's strong defence, we would do well to score more than 2.

Tom Cato · Nov 15, 2019

Schmeichel's Cartwheel said:
DDG
AWB Lindelof Maguire Young
Fred Andreas
James Mata Rashford
Martial

McTom for Andreas if fit. I've gone for Young over Williams, because I think this is a tough game to be throwing the youngster into away from home against a team with an exceptional home record.

Williams has been awarded man of the match BOTH times he's started a game.

It's also important to note that Sheffield United are not a huge offensive threat like you expect Chelsea or Liverpool to be. It is not a high scoring side. Their strength entirely lies in their ability to close ranks in the back and catch teams too high up.

Sheffield Uniteds problem on the other hand is that they will be playing a side that is just as hard to score on as they are. Key difference is that our strikers are vastly better, and are finally hitting form.

We're the favorites in this match, but we should not make the assumption that this will be easy, because it will certainly be a tight game, unless the floodgates somehow open.

sunama · Nov 15, 2019

norm87cro said:
Can't see us keeping a clean sheet in this one. Another tough away fixture against a phisical team that will fancy their chances against Lindelof. I would take a scrappy 2 1 victory. Until the january transfer window I couldn't care less how we manage to win games as long as we win them somehow.

What makes you think that we are going to buy in January?
We didn't buy more players in the Summer, because we were saving money.
And for exactly the same reason, we won't buy in January.

It makes absolutely no sense to not buy players in Summer, but buy players in January. The best players are normally only available in the Summer.

Whichever way you look at it, we aren't buying in January.

waza7111 · Nov 15, 2019

de Gea
Lindelof - Maguire - Rojo
AWB - Andreas - Fred - Williams
James - Martial - Rashford

We should match their formation. Central midfield looks a bit light but probably no other options available.

RedPed · Nov 17, 2019

I just hope we don't get another Bournemouth performance. It would really be a huge step forward if we can beat Sheffield United next weekend. This shouldn't even be a thing but it's where we're at right now. Can't wait for Pogba to come back in to see how far we can really kick on but we should be able to win this. I've predicted 2-1 United.

SER19 · Nov 17, 2019

Terrible fixture, I think we'll draw, which if we follow up with wins against villa and spurs, won't be bad at all.

Bestietom · Nov 17, 2019

Very Tough fixture for us. I would go 3-5-2

------------------De Gea-----------

--Lindelof-------Maguire--------Rojo

--AWB------Matic----Fred----Pereira----Williams

-------Rashford----------------Martial

James as our super sub, if things are not going well.

Red Dreams · Nov 17, 2019

Would rather see Garner than Matic in there.

SER19 · Nov 19, 2019

This game might have a bit more of a must win feel for ole now. Pochettino available, wouldn't take much for the vultures to circle again.

On a side note, we have Tottenham home in 2 games. Jose back at old Trafford?

Red Dreams · Nov 19, 2019

Its a pity McT is not available.
Thought finally we had a proper midfield with fred and him together.

Still I expect us to play well.

FootballHQ · Nov 20, 2019

Schmeichel's Cartwheel said:
Fair dues, when you're right you're right. I don't know why I thought their home record was really good. I had the Arsenal win in my head, thought they'd won most of their points at home.

Start of the season they lost 3/4 although two of those were narrow losses to Leicester and Liverpool. Last two have been Arsenal and Burnley wins and not conceding a goal in either.

This will be a low scoring game, think it will be 1-1.

Blades1889 · Nov 20, 2019

Hopefully Egan is fit otherwise my optimism will take a beating

kafta · Nov 20, 2019

I think 3-4-3 with Fred and Andreas is our only realistic option. I'd start Williams at left back, i think there is nothing that young does better at this point. Team should be:

DDG
Lindelof Maguire Rojo
AWB Fred Andreas Williams
James Rashford Martial

Im optimistic these days, our forward line has goals in it. I'm going for a 3-1 win to us.

jderbyshire · Nov 20, 2019

kafta said:
I think 3-4-3 with Fred and Andreas is our only realistic option. I'd start Williams at left back, i think there is nothing that young does better at this point. Team should be:

DDG
Lindelof Maguire Rojo
AWB Fred Andreas Williams
James Rashford Martial

Im optimistic these days, our forward line has goals in it. I'm going for a 3-1 win to us.

I think we'll use the back three too (to allow our wingbacks to handle the overlapping CBs), but I can see it being something like this:

De Gea
Lindelof Maguire Rojo
Wan Bissaka Andreas Fred Young
Lingard
Martial Rashford

With James to come on in the second half if needs be. I would be starting Williams, but I think Ole will want more experience/discipline in that position. Young and AWB did well against Liverpool at wingback.

kafta · Nov 20, 2019

jderbyshire said:
I think we'll use the back three too (to allow our wingbacks to handle the overlapping CBs), but I can see it being something like this:

De Gea
Lindelof Maguire Rojo
Wan Bissaka Andreas Fred Young
Lingard
Martial Rashford

With James to come on in the second half if needs be. I would be starting Williams, but I think Ole will want more experience/discipline in that position. Young and AWB did well against Liverpool at wingback.

I agree that Ole might start Young, though i personally think he doesn't offer more discipline than Brandon, as he gives the ball away much more and suspect defensively, let alone the energy levels he offers. But i feel Ole might start him anyways.

As for Lingard, i think we lose a lot of pace up front without James and he has been preforming very well. I would start him as right now Lingard is offering no end product at all.

dmode · Nov 20, 2019

wtf is pogba? is this injury for real? or is he in his pogbaesque mood, does he want to go?

zenith · Nov 20, 2019

dmode said:
wtf is pogba?

A professional football player

JJ12 · Nov 20, 2019

dmode said:
wtf is pogba? is this injury for real? or is he in his pogbaesque mood, does he want to go?

Back in December was what we were told last

FootyGirl88 · Nov 20, 2019

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Ancient Of Days · Nov 20, 2019

This game will tell us if we really have turned a corner or if it was just a case of playing against weak teams when we are at home where we had the chance to play expansive against very weak opposition when there are acres of space to exploit

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Withnail · Nov 20, 2019

Ancient Of Days said:
This game will tell us if we really have turned a corner or if it was just a case of playing against weak teams when we are at home where we had the chance to play expansive against very weak opposition when there are acres of space to exploit

It may not tell us a huge amount if its a cobbled together midfield. McTominay isn't training yet so I don't think there's any chance he'll be fit.

Sheffield aren't scoring that much and their defensive record at home isn't great. I'm going for 0-1 or 1-2.

Alabaster Codify7 · Nov 20, 2019

Ancient Of Days said:
This game will tell us if we really have turned a corner or if it was just a case of playing against weak teams when we are at home where we had the chance to play expansive against very weak opposition when there are acres of space to exploit

You would think so. You'd be surprised though. We'll drop points here (1-1 I reckon) but then we'll beat Alkmaar at home or something and the reset button will be hit again.

PoTMS · Nov 20, 2019

Who knew we'd be at the end of November and the United from Sheffield would be higher than the one from Manchester?

DoomSlayer · Nov 20, 2019

This is a must win game now, considering the circus created by the sacking of Pochettino.

I hope the players are fired up due to the return of Mourinho in the PL and are ready to prove him wrong in support of our current manager.

Only big issue is McTominay's injury which might mean we have to play Pereira, Lingard or even worse - Matic - in his place.

Fred needs to continue with his recent performances as well, we need that stability in midfield.

jderbyshire · Nov 20, 2019

Great to see Axel back.

Ole tends to do well after an international break - seems to use the extra time to get a good game plan together (not sure whether that's a complement or not) - like against Spurs last season and Liverpool this season.

I'm confident we'll handle Sheffield tactically. Just hope our forwards can take their chances.

Tom Cato · Nov 20, 2019

dmode said:
wtf is pogba? is this injury for real? or is he in his pogbaesque mood, does he want to go?

Very busy with recovery training.

He posted a lengthy instagramstory yesterday, check it out here: https://www.instagram.com/paulpogba/?hl=en (click his face/thumbnail to open the story)

FootyGirl88 · Nov 20, 2019

jderbyshire said:
Great to see Axel back.

Ole tends to do well after an international break - seems to use the extra time to get a good game plan together (not sure whether that's a complement or not) - like against Spurs last season and Liverpool this season.

I'm confident we'll handle Sheffield tactically. Just hope our forwards can take their chances.

I hope hes fit enough to start

Withnail · Nov 20, 2019

Tom Cato said:
Very busy with recovery training.

He posted a lengthy instagramstory yesterday, check it out here: https://www.instagram.com/paulpogba/?hl=en (click his face/thumbnail to open the story)

He was in a cast last week.

What do people want?

Adam-Utd · Nov 20, 2019

Withnail said:
He was in a cast last week.

What do people want?

People are very odd. They genuinely expect sport stars to;

1. Be training all day, non stop. Only rests allowed when eating or sleeping.

2. No fun allowed, only serious faces and hard work.

3. No showing off their wealth, family or their lifestyle. We only want to see them on the training pitch.

M Bison · Nov 20, 2019

Is McT definitely not fit?

Withnail · Nov 20, 2019

M Bison said:
Is McT definitely not fit?

Matic, Tuanzebe and Shaw were back training yesterday but he wasn't so it's doubtful he'll be ready in time.

Leftback99 · Nov 20, 2019

M Bison said:
Is McT definitely not fit?

Wasn't pictured training other than being driven in to Carrington (which is a bad sign in itself).

Mark Pawelek · Nov 21, 2019

DoomSlayer said:
... Only big issue is McTominay's injury which might mean we have to play Pereira, Lingard or even worse - Matic - in his place.

Fred needs to continue with his recent performances as well, we need that stability in midfield.

Matic or Garner are the best alternatives for McTominay's position. Putting Pereira or Lingard in central midfield doesn't make a lot of sense to me. What's the logic behind it? Who will play as the attacking midfield? The main doubt I have with Matic is he just returned from injury and hasn't played yet.

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