Sheffield United 3:3 Manchester United

RedRazor · Nov 24, 2019

Based on the performance overall, we should be very pleased with a draw. Absolutely delighted for the young players getting on the score sheet, and scoring three goals means I'm not spending the evening sulking. De Gea earned his money early on, as they could have had five against us. Sheffield completely outplayed us for 70 mins of that match.
I honestly think they let us in because they didn't feel threatened by us at all, and got complacent in the final third of the match.
We were unlucky with VAR. Could have been given as handball, but it was a very difficult decision. The contact completely halted the ball from travelling past the player. It is beyond his chest when the contact is made and looks more like very upper arm than shoulder.

Steven-UK · Nov 24, 2019

SteveW said:
We scored 3 goals despite having no service.

Im talking about the last 7 years of dross from both of them; my memory stretches beyond a couple of games against opposition we should be absolutely destroying as a club.

Neither Martial or Rashford are good enough for first team selections at this club unless we are accepting being average from now on - although it seems we have, and we are.

Bulldog United · Nov 24, 2019

It clearly struck his arm below the shoulder. VAR room didn't want to disallow it because of all the controversial decisions that have gone against Sheffield this season. Another shite decision from the clown room.

SirMattlives · Nov 24, 2019

Late equalizers cloud the judgement but our defenders always look a bit vulnerable under pressure so I sort of anticipated this when Sheff pressed the ball down our end. We used to do that to others...now everyone seems able to do it us. Sort of worrying that when we went ahead, I was looking at the clock and thinking 10 mins was too long for us to hang on. Still, I'd have taken this at half-time. Can't fathom some of the tone here...but I'll put it down to match-day excitement.

Fully Fledged · Nov 24, 2019

KirkDuyt said:
I thought it was rather difficult to discern whether it was the upper arm or chest honestly. Either way, I assume the var had doubts because any attacking handball is handball.

To me it was obviously top of the arm. I thought that they deserved at least a draw but if you are going to use VAR then use it correctly.

Blades1889 · Nov 24, 2019

Shame to miss out on 3 points tonight. Credit to your young lads, they put the other lot to shame. I would’ve took a point before the game considering our changes so no complaints really. Some incredibly ignorant posts on here about the Blades that I can only chuckle at. Utb

Irrational. · Nov 24, 2019

morbidsaint said:
Dogshit result.... Clearly you lack knowledge of how they have performed this season. Only reason Liverpool even beat them(deserved to lose that game) was a awful mistake from Henderson. They drew vs Chelsea and City aswell.

They've been great but you really should be beating Sheffield irrespective of how they fared against other teams. If you're happy with that result it just shows how far we've fallen. Our football was criminal and 9 times out of 10 we would've been put to the sword.

DickDastardly · Nov 24, 2019

youngrell said:
Clutching at straws if you think that equaliser should have been chalked off.

Why tf is it clutching at straws?!

Disregard the whole defend the lead stuff.

If it doesnt hit his arm, he doesn't get to volley it into the top - we win. End of.

Handré1990 · Nov 24, 2019

SteveW said:
Mctomminay was key to that. We had no like for like replacement.

Hindsight is everything of course, but we suddenly looked likely to create when we changed in the 2nd half. Again, that last sub, also a big mistake imo. Could have waited at least until injury time if he had to make it, try to stop play as much as possible. I don’t know, just really disappointed right now.

youngrell · Nov 24, 2019

DickDastardly said:
Why tf is it clutching at straws?!

Disregard the whole defend the lead stuff.

If it doesnt hit his arm, he doesn't get to volley it into the top - we win. End of.

Looked like his shoulder to me. Wasn’t clear at all that it was handball.

Offside · Nov 24, 2019

Why are people saying feck VAR? You really think that was handball?

Lennon7 · Nov 24, 2019

SteveW said:
Mctomminay was key to that. We had no like for like replacement.

Yeah, and Fred/Pereira were probably our poorest players today along with Jones and maybe Maguire. We desperately need a new centre mid, an intelligent one that can control the game and do the right fecking thing rather than pass it away or shit themselves.

SteveW · Nov 24, 2019

Handré1990 said:
Hindsight is everything of course, but we suddenly looked likely to create when we changed in the 2nd half. Again, that last sub, also a big mistake imo. Could have waited at least until injury time if he had to make it, try to stop play as much as possible. I don’t know, just really disappointed right now.

We couldn't have started with 4 forwards and a Fred Lingard midfield realistically though. We need McT and Pogba back asap.

Red_toad · Nov 24, 2019

Steven-UK said:
And strikers that know how to score other than tap ins .

We won’t get anywhere with this team whilst we have Rashford and Martial as our front line.

You feeling ok dude? How anyone could describe Rashford as a player who can only score tap ins, is simply insane. Fix the midfield and our team will be fine, our two best midfielders are both missing and they’re simply in a different class to their replacements. Our attack is fine, once we began bypassing our midfield they actually created and scored.

DickDastardly · Nov 24, 2019

Offside said:
Why are people saying feck VAR? You really think that was handball?

Of course it is.

He stops it dead, you can't do that with your shoulder. You can do IT with your chest, but that is not his chest either.

Do you people play football? Try stopping it like that with your shoulder. Can't do it.

Use your biceps, sure. Use your chest sure. One of those two isn't allowed.

Møllemanden · Nov 24, 2019

Doesn't matter if it was handball or not. United were terrible. We didn't deserve a point in this game. Why on earth did Ole go back to a five man defense? It was absolutely useless in the first half.

VP89 · Nov 24, 2019

sherrinford said:
Why is that weird?

Gomes isn't a central midfielder. Although neither is Pereira after today :lol:

PoTMS · Nov 24, 2019

This was the worse result possible. Losing would've piled pressure on Ole whereas a win would've pulled us higher up in the table. A point does nothing for us.

SteveW · Nov 24, 2019

Lennon7 said:
Yeah, and Fred/Pereira were probably our poorest players today along with Jones and maybe Maguire. We desperately need a new centre mid, an intelligent one that can control the game and do the right fecking thing rather than pass it away or shit themselves.

I've been worried for 2 weeks about this game due to having to play Fred and Pereira. I fully expected to lose. That's simply not a midfield that wins a tricky away game in the PL. Pereira is arguably the worst player to play for the club in my lifetime and Freds not much better. Did people really think they were going to handle a game like todays?

We are in real trouble until at least one of Pogba and McT come back.

Bastian · Nov 24, 2019

Ranchero said:
Considering five at the back failed, we revert back and ship a goal. Ole just didnt learn

Yeah, dreadful

christinaa · Nov 24, 2019

Now if our name was LiVARpoo then the SU third goal would have been disallowed with VAR.

And what about the blatant push on Jones for the first goal?!

momo83 · Nov 24, 2019

mitchmouse said:
i guess you don't really deserve to win if you are awful for 70 mins. sorry, but Ole doesn't get my vote for seven great minutes. he got so much wrong for the other 83, including allowing them back in. we had them on the ropes and didn't go for the knockout

The 3 goals were simply about individual talent.. almost as if the attackers ignored Ole and just started doing their own thing

Ranchero · Nov 24, 2019

VP89 said:
Gomes isn't a central midfielder. Although neither is Pereira after today

Pereira is without doubt one of the worst midfield players i have ever seen that was c onsidered a first team regular.

calodo2003 · Nov 24, 2019

Offside said:
Why are people saying feck VAR? You really think that was handball?

Absolutely. He gained an advantage by the ball coming in contact with his arm, it helped settle it somewhat. VAR bottled it.

Ranchero · Nov 24, 2019

Ole saying "sometimes it is beyond tactics". Wrong. Ole's tactics invited SU pressure

VP89 · Nov 24, 2019

Ranchero said:
Pereira is without doubt one of the worst midfield players i have ever seen that was c onsidered a first team regular.

Agreed. I always thought he was bang average or less, and never understood why he was ever rated here once upon a time.

Zen86 · Nov 24, 2019

PoTMS said:
This was the worse result possible. Losing would've piled pressure on Ole whereas a win would've pulled us higher up in the table. A point does nothing for us.

Assuming this is a serious post, people like you are pathetic.

Ranchero · Nov 24, 2019

Worst Ole after-match comments ive heard since he took charge. He 'cant put his finger on' why they were so poor for an hour.

What was the catalyst. "When you are two down you have to go for it and play with less fear.. just express yourself and make things happen".

So become less negative. Why did it take two goals to switch from a negative five at the back!! That is tactical fear from the manager*

Nicoseth · Nov 24, 2019

Ranchero said:
Worst Ole after-match comments ive heard since he took charge. He 'cant put his finger on' why they were so poor for an hour.

What was the catalyst. "When you are two down you have to go for it and play with less fear.. just express yourself and make things happen".

So become less negative. Why did it take two goals to switch from a negative five at the back!! That is tactical fear from the manager*

What do you want him to say? "Phil Jones was the reason."? That would be a huge reason but he's not going to say that!

Lennon7 · Nov 24, 2019

SteveW said:
I've been worried for 2 weeks about this game due to having to play Fred and Pereira. I fully expected to lose. That's simply not a midfield that wins a tricky away game in the PL. Pereira is arguably the worst player to play for the club in my lifetime and Freds not much better. Did people really think they were going to handle a game like todays?

We are in real trouble until at least one of Pogba and McT come back.

Bloody hell how old are you? He’s absolute garbage but can’t be the worst :lol:

I’d even play Garner over Pereira. feck it, why not?

Godfather · Nov 24, 2019

Nicoseth said:
What do you want him to say? "Phil Jones was the reason."? That would be a huge reason but he's not going to say that!

And who picks Jones?
Ole was the fecking reason. Sometimes it's beyond tactics? It was his shit tactics that got us into trouble from the get go.

BigBebe · Nov 24, 2019

Ranchero said:
Worst Ole after-match comments ive heard since he took charge. He 'cant put his finger on' why they were so poor for an hour.

What was the catalyst. "When you are two down you have to go for it and play with less fear.. just express yourself and make things happen".

So become less negative. Why did it take two goals to switch from a negative five at the back!! That is tactical fear from the manager*

I do find his "that's football" and "We're Manchester United" insights somewhat grating.

sherrinford · Nov 24, 2019

VP89 said:
Gomes isn't a central midfielder. Although neither is Pereira after today

Are you sure he’s not a central midfielder? I’ve not decided whether I think he’s an Isco/ Iniesta/ David Silva or a Verratti/ Arthur Melo/ Thiago yet.

Full bodied red · Nov 24, 2019

SteveW said:
I'm not going to pretend I had any better ideas before the game. What would you have done without the benefit of hindsight?

I would have swallowed pride and played Matic rather than Jones.

Not saying that in hindsight after Jones miserable display - midfielder injured, so play a relacement midfielder and not three CBs.

redmanc · Nov 24, 2019

fps said:
Agreed, but this kind of complaining over decisions is what fans of smaller clubs tend to do.

No disagreement here..

Un4givableB · Nov 24, 2019

Massive Spanner said:
It's not Football Manager.

It was almost.........................

Nicoseth · Nov 24, 2019

Godfather said:
And who picks Jones?
Ole was the fecking reason. Sometimes it's beyond tactics? It was his shit tactics that got us into trouble from the get go.

Who were the alternatives? Hindsight is 20/20. Yes he got it wrong. But he changed it and turned it around. If people are going to criticize Ole when he drops the ball they should also recognize when he gets it right. It's the constant criticism that will stop us progressing. I think we're making strides in the right direction. It's a process and Ole's doing okay.

Nicoseth · Nov 24, 2019

Full bodied red said:
I would have swallowed pride and played Matic rather than Jones.

Not saying that in hindsight after Jones miserable display - midfielder injured, so play a relacement midfielder and not three CBs.

Wasn't Matic unavailable? Training but not match fit is what I heard.

Steven-UK · Nov 25, 2019

Red_toad said:
You feeling ok dude? How anyone could describe Rashford as a player who can only score tap ins, is simply insane. Fix the midfield and our team will be fine, our two best midfielders are both missing and they’re simply in a different class to their replacements. Our attack is fine, once we began bypassing our midfield they actually created and scored.

With respect, you are delusional, fella.

I take it you are talking about Pogba being one of these 'different class' players? Give me 5 examples of games whilst he has been back where he has proven your praise?

As for Rashford, please, he is nowhere near good enough for this team; you really, and I mean really think we are going to get anywhere near to winning a league again whilst Rashford and Martial are leading our lines.... Not a chance.

I'd have a couple of grand bet with you right now (a moderator can be the holder of the cash) that whilst those two are first teamers, and leading the line, that we will never win the league again.

croadyman · Nov 25, 2019

Delano said:
Cost us the game sitting back. Terrible terrible management.

Yeah didn't help neither Ole or the players had a clue how to manage that situation, they were used to not getting back into a game after going behind.

Yeah we should have pressed on for the fourth goal because this season shows we are unable to hold on to a one goal lead. We are much more effective when we attack in that position rather than trying to hold what we have. That was a monumental mistake and boy did it cost us three massive points

I see similarities in today's game with that home game against Newcastle under Jose last season, the difference being that we couldn't hold on to the 3-2 comeback this time, oh yeah and Ole not being as under the cosh as Mourinho was that day either.

FA Premier League

Sheffield United 3:3 Manchester United

Bramall Lane

Closed

on the radio

New Member

New Member

Full Member

Full Member

Full Member

Full Member

New Member

Full Member

Full Member

Euro 2016 sweepstake winner

nipple flasher and door destroyer

Full Member

Full Member

New Member

Full Member

Pogba's biggest fan

Full Member

Full Member

Full Member

Gossip Girl

Massive Snowflake

New Member

Flaming Full Member

New Member

Pogba's biggest fan

Full Member

New Member

Full Member

nipple flasher and door destroyer

Full Member

Full Member

Full Member

Full Member

Full Member

Full Member

Full Member

Full Member

New Member

Full Member

Man of the Match

Runners-up

Player Ratings

Highest Rated Player

Lowest Rated Player

Score Predictions

Detailed Results

Match Stats

Referee

Man Utd Lineup

Substitutes