Yes, as a person Berbatov without any doubt. Both good players obviously, but I think Berbatov never fullfilled his true potential at United despite his top scoring season. Tevez was surely never as elegant while scoring less, but a great team player who worked his socks off, and his teqnicue and vision wasn’t too shabby either.I would choose Berbatov. He is a different kind of player. When Rooney was injured he led the line and without him we would not have scored those goals. Plus he obviously love United still. He chose us over City though he was getting a better financial deal with City.
Welbeck was excellent for us under Ferguson.Welbeck.
Welbeck was excellent for us under Ferguson.
I've always thought both of them would enjoy a better career if SAF didn't retire.Cleverley
Fergie would never have sold Welbeck.I've always thought both of them would enjoy a better career if SAF didn't retire.
Zaha is the biggest what if for me.I've always thought both of them would enjoy a better career if SAF didn't retire.
He was weak mentally as other players have said. To accommodate Ronaldo he played on his weaker side. Then Carlos left and I said even at that time it was downhill for both Anderson and Nani. I think we disregard the contribution of Carlos Quiroz to United.Anderson and Cleverley. I kept expecting both to eventually switch on. Maybe Nani, too. He did just enough for us but I always hoped he would develop into a Arjen Robben type. He had the tools.
I agree.Yes, and I am not defending Tevez’ antics or City transfer at all. I’am only saying that it was a shame he left in that manner (fan favourite and good player) and that I still believe it could have been better handled by the club. As already mentioned, his role decreased that season and he became frustrated. SAF’s policy was great, but neither him was perfect.
Imo Welbeck played quite well under Moyes in 13/14.Fergie would never have sold Welbeck.
Cleverley, however, would most likely have gone the way of Kieron Richardson and Darron Gibson. All three of them were useful up to a point (and each has more PL medals than Gerrard) but Fergie knew when to move them on.
The thread isn’t about poor players. It’s about poor fans.John O'Shea
Played almost 400 games, up on 40 games a season for 10 years, played in every position, scored some decent/important goals and nutmegged Figo.
Top quality professional who always gave his best. No way does he deserve to be anywhere near this thread.
True. I wasn't his biggest fan but we'd kill for a Carrick now. He'd work perfectly with Pogz and Bruno in front I think.One season he was horrible. Especially playing in midfield with Fletcher. They had an almost record passing stats then found out the majority percentage was between them. He has been responsible for some disasters too especially in Europe. I remember I think it was against Bayern once he got out muscled and they scored. Again in Europe on a night if we score we go thru Berbatov gave him a chance with only the keeper to beat and he fecked up.
He was a jack of all trades but for sure much better than the lot we have now. Heck Fletcher would walk into this side. Ando( fit Ando) would waltz into this side. So would Hargreaves or Park or even Phil Neville.
Good analogies.Spot on. We often called him a crab, now he is referred to as a metronom.
This really - Fletcher was one that sticks out, but there was a time many fans wanted even Giggs sold (during the middle of his career when he was injured a lot and before he discovered yoga). Nani had some tough years, then his replacement Valencia. Fergie stuck with them all. Carrick when people accused him of being unable to pass forward during the years Scholes ran the middle, DDG his first two years.Pretty much all of them.
Perhaps the matchday forum is not the best indication, but whenever O'Shea would start, it was comical how many posters slated SAF for picking him. It became a bit of a joke around here about how negatively people responded to O'Shea, even before the match started. This was especially when he would start ahead of fan favourites like RafaelI don't remember anyone really being unhappy with him though, I certainly wasn't. You knew he wasn't an amazing talent but he was generally a solid backup option in multiple positions. The amount he won with us proves that "he wasn't of the required quality" isn't true, he had certain qualities that made him a very useful and successful player during a period where we were a dominant team