I think he should get the next 3 or 4 games but if there isnt a turnaround its time to act quickly and replace him. I just cant see them doing it though, a huge proportion of the match going support will back ole regardless of results.
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Sorry, dude's been manager long enough and shown little to nothing on the pitch. he's built a pretty decent squad but he can't coach. Almost anyone would be an upgrade and we should pull the trigger.
Don't fancy getting beat 6-1 twice a season.
Rodgers is a decent coach but he's not good enough for United.
Beside the way his team collapses completely by the end of the season is a very worrying sign. Happened at Liverpool and both his Leicester seasons.
Good coach but he's at his own level now imo. United are bigger than him.
That's kind of the problem with Ten Hag isn't it? I think he's a brilliant coach but you're only hiring him. You're not getting the decades-old Ajax support structure that enables him and his squad to be as proficient as they are.
I can’t say who but definitely not Conte. We need a manager who is gonna have a playing style we would love because absolutely no one guarantees silverware and even winning that silverware doesn’t help much if we end up worse of like in case of Mourinho . Anything else is unacceptable.
Rodgers, Bielsa, Marco Rose, Mancini.
Rodgers, Bielsa, Marco Rose, Mancini.
Exactly. 2-5 years was the norm anyway, us and Arsenal just got lucky.
It's not knee-jerk ffs. We ended last season terribly and have been shite for 6 out of 8 games this one.
United are on the verge and have been for a good few years. For any alleged knee-jerk negativity there is an enthusiasm after a single win with pro Ole guys ridiculing doubters.
I don’t know if I'm fully Ole out just for now but to call those who are 'knee-jerk' is ridiculous. What's certain is that we do have a good squad that should yield better results and performances.
Anyone with tactical flexibility and who preferably has reached the latter stages of the CL.
His Liverpool side was mediocre bar Suarez and he nearly won the league.
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.His Leicester side is also very average yet he's almost gotten them champions league football 2 seasons running and won them an Fa Cup.
Yes those 2 sides tended to fade a bit late on in the season buts that's because they had/have zero quality in depth, something we currently have an abundance of. Look how much Guardiola rotates at City. Do you think he could rotate like that with the squads Rodgers has had, not a chance.
When Rodgers had the best squad in the league at Celtic. He absolutely dominated, even achieving an unbeaten season. He'd do very well with our current squad, his playing style is more suited to a top team like us.
Someone who plays attacking football, will drop 2 holding midfielders and not rip up the squad
Don’t rule out Ronaldo as player coach in the interim with Rooney assisting
I'm not saying he's a bad coach, he's definitely a good one. I don't think he's world class though. United can do better imo.His Liverpool side was mediocre bar Suarez and he nearly won the league.
Thanks again Slippy G
His Leicester side is also very average yet he's almost gotten them champions league football 2 seasons running and won them an Fa Cup.
Yes those 2 sides tended to fade a bit late on in the season buts that's because they had/have zero quality in depth, something we currently have an abundance of. Look how much Guardiola rotates at City. Do you think he could rotate like that with the squads Rodgers has had, not a chance.
When Rodgers had the best squad in the league at Celtic. He absolutely dominated, even achieving an unbeaten season. He'd do very well with our current squad, his playing style is more suited to a top team like us.
I watch both academies and United have similar gems.
Laird, Mejbri, Mainoo, Forson, Shoretire, Hansen, potentially Elango would all be massive at Ajax. Main difference is that Rensch, Timber, Gravenberch receive playing time and at United we give Mata, Jones, etc new contracts.
From my understanding of it, from what's in the public domain. Solskjaer came in as a caretaker manager and the club were looking for a permanent solution at the time. But as we all know the results improved and they gave Solskjaer the job fulltime. I don't believe he was a serious consideration but his appointment has helped us to stabilize the club which was important imo.
And if i'm not mistaken, Bout, Lawlor and Court were added to a newly formed transfer committee in 2018 during Mourinho's tenure as manager which gave our recruitment staff power in who we recruit. Which reportedly didn't go down well with Mourinho who some say went into self sabotage mode. And Bout imo is also our most experienced coach even if he's employed as the head of global scouting currently. He's worked as a coach under LVG and Jupp Heynckes who requested to keep Bout after Bayern sacked LVG. So I believe the recruitment team will have a huge influence on appointing a new head coach.
Someone who can cope better with adversity in games whether that's injury to 2 key players or a red card
Crazy how people just ignore context isn’t it. Even more in this case because Potter’s Scandinavian experience is actually just as, if not more, impressive - taking a team up 3 divisions, getting into Europa (knocking out Galatasaray, beat Arsenal at the Emirates but lost return leg) on a shoestring. Winning a domestic cup as well. But he had to go to Swansea then go to Brighton whereas Ole goes straight in at United.
If Conte is that tactically inflexible than you're right. John Murtough needs a manager ready to work with what we have.
Ole will probably get us 4th and that will be enough for the glazers.
Murtough needs to get tough when Deadwood Woodward has finally gone in December and start looking for a new manager and get onto joel glazer saying this football isnt good enough and 4th place wont placate the fans.
Murtough needs to get tough when Deadwood Woodward has finally gone in December and start looking for a new manager and get onto joel glazer saying this football isnt good enough and 4th place wont placate the fans.
What's world class? The only world class coaches are probably Zidane, Conte, Pep and Klopp. And in each and every one of them you would probably be able to find something to be disappointed by. Rodgers has done a lot to deserve credit. His side often play beautiful football. He managed to achieve almost the unachievable long before Klopp did. His Liverpool side played beautiful football back then and he did it mostly playing bang average players with the exception of Suarez and Sturridge. He was amazing at Celtic and has done very good at Leicester, more than good.
All in all, he is right there with Haag, Nagelmann, Rose, Potter, etc. He'd have us play amazing football and deliver way better results than Ole has done. And at the end of the day, isn't that what we want? We're never getting Pep or Klopp, so we can forget about that.
I think these types just take tribalism further and defend our manager at all cost. If we had a tactics nerd coach like Tuchel they’d be gushing about his patterns of play and modern football.
The thing is...does Zidane need to build this squad from scratch? Hasn't Ole pretty much laid the foundation already? Now only CDM, a stellar ST (Haaland) and we are set.
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Ancelotti would have been perfect. He willing to work with what he's given and he's a winner.
If you take Ole off, and put a donkey as a manager we would still make top 4.
I want the circus to end right now. And I think Zidane is not the right man to take over, Conte is.
I just don't trust Zizou's tactical and technical acumen. Who were his coaches in Madrid? Those would be the key.
Good post.
People don't understand that you have to give youngsters a chance to develop their game and Ajax pride themselves on doing just that. There's also many players who don't make it and are forgotten, but the fan looking in from the outside only sees Frenkie de Jong, De Ligt, Gravenberch etc.
I want Zidane or Conte personally. Don't have any problems with both. Both are the kind of managers United deserve to have.
Anyone else just not excited by Zidane? I know, 3 champions leagues and all that but isn’t he similar to Ole? i.e a man manager who lets the players figure it out once they’ve stepped over the white line?
I feel like we need our own Pep or Tuchel but who?
I feel like we need our own Pep or Tuchel but who?
Is it still allegri who guarantees success according to you geniuses ?
Only 2 world class manager are available now.
At least Zidane has shown he's a winner.
We need to win anything at this point.
Chelsea won the EL because he'd dropped them down there, and Lampard did a great job in that first season with youth players. He's absolutely a short term pick, and would be Mou at United 2.0
Literally no one wants Allegri. All people want is a coach with a proactive style (i.e. not Allegri) who can point to having built at least 1 successful team in a top league. Is that too crazy as a prerequisite at United for you?
That's just hyperbole, but this isn't the thread for it so I won't get into it
Who’s that lad that manages Red Bull, wore the funny jacket against us last year. Him. He’d be a bit of craic at least.
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