No, but detecting red flags is something that foreign terrorism experts have become very good at. Their expertise would be better used in fighting against domestic terrorism if governments are serious about taking action.
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His lawyer has entered a not guilty plea … insanity I guess?
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People like that will sometimes argue not guilty because of self-defense. Anders Behring Breivik did that, for instance.His lawyer has entered a not guilty plea … insanity I guess?
Insane or not …pure evil
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Oh those lawyers, please. If anything, Gendron should be paraded around town square and get flogged for a week.His lawyer has entered a not guilty plea … insanity I guess?
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ooeat0meoo
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Fun Fact for white radicals in the USA
Nobody in law enforcement and political power cares if extremists are targeting black folks.
It's disgusting
Nobody probably saw my edit, but I likely said too much (deleted)
Here's another edit that I'm okay with posting
(2015) As the Baltimore Uprising happened, shortly after the Ferguson Mike Brown incident happended, Homeland Security had a 5 person team tracking white supremacist groups in America. Due to lobbyist pressure, this group was completely disbanded, at the time. I know this from both the Washington Post confirming, and my closest friend who works at DHS. During this time i was an investigative reporter and producer for a DC radio station (on the dial)
President Obama put Biden in charge of anything BLM and police reform during their last year in office. It wasn't until 2016 that the Obama/Biden admin initiated the 21st Century On Police Reform study. Obama put Biden on this because he didn't want any sign of bias (according to the Washington Post), but the study was completely corrupted by police unions such as the Fraternal Order of the Police, rendering it meaningless.
It is an indisputable fact in America, there's no legal authority in the USA that cares about police brutality and how they treat minorities in this country
Nobody in law enforcement and political power cares if extremists are targeting black folks.
It's disgusting
Nobody probably saw my edit, but I likely said too much (deleted)
Here's another edit that I'm okay with posting
(2015) As the Baltimore Uprising happened, shortly after the Ferguson Mike Brown incident happended, Homeland Security had a 5 person team tracking white supremacist groups in America. Due to lobbyist pressure, this group was completely disbanded, at the time. I know this from both the Washington Post confirming, and my closest friend who works at DHS. During this time i was an investigative reporter and producer for a DC radio station (on the dial)
President Obama put Biden in charge of anything BLM and police reform during their last year in office. It wasn't until 2016 that the Obama/Biden admin initiated the 21st Century On Police Reform study. Obama put Biden on this because he didn't want any sign of bias (according to the Washington Post), but the study was completely corrupted by police unions such as the Fraternal Order of the Police, rendering it meaningless.
It is an indisputable fact in America, there's no legal authority in the USA that cares about police brutality and how they treat minorities in this country
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A leader of the KKK gets pranked by BBC. It’s worth watching just for him saying imap ussy.
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British man goes to rural Arkansas to explore the most racist town in America and ends up in a friendly Magic The Gathering game. Did not see that one coming.A leader of the KKK gets pranked by BBC. It’s worth watching just for him saying imap ussy.
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No kidding, if people knew what was really happening OMGBritish man goes to rural Arkansas to explore the most racist town in America and ends up in a friendly Magic The Gathering game. Did not see that one coming.
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What a sad, impotent and pathetic ideology.
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Oh yes this country is broken. Lived here a few years now and I know Christians who think they are going to heaven but at the same time if offered that all people not the same color as them or the same religion were to disappear overnight they would say a resounding yes. And I live in the Liberal northeast. I can’t image what the land of the inbred states think.
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I live in the upper northwest catskill mountains in upstate NY. Yet, I reported on police brutality in Ferguson, DC, Baltimore, NYC, Philly, and a few other cities, on the ground and several months at a time. People don't know and don't care, not unless Alex Jones says so.Oh yes this country is broken. Lived here a few years now and I know Christians who think they are going to heaven but at the same time if offered that all people not the same color as them or the same religion were to disappear overnight they would say a resounding yes. And I live in the Liberal northeast. I can’t image what the land of the inbred states think.
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This I very much agree with you on.No, but detecting red flags is something that foreign terrorism experts have become very good at. Their expertise would be better used in fighting against domestic terrorism if governments are serious about taking action.
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There is a lot of stuff in his manifesto. Most of it is to do with US domestic politics - birth rate, replacement theory, white genocide, critical rate theory, race-IQ, etc - stuff that's been propogated by the mainstream right wing (Tucker Carlson, most Republicans, etc), and debated in polite liberal circles. He is simply following the logic of the Republican party to a logical conclusion.The person who allegedly inspired him was the New Zealand mass shooter who travelled to Ukraine and was radicalized there. Reported last year:
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I don't think he has any special affinity with Azov or Ukraine - indeed, the opposite might be true.
And I think it is counterproductive to tie him with NATO/Azov/any particular foreign influence based on his symbols. Same way it was counterproductive to tie Trump to Russia. Both Trump and the shooter are home-grown. Trump is the product of a radicalising base, with a mix of religious fervour, downward economic mobility, and hostility to any left-wing ideas, and he is the younger version of the same thing, so he got all the same ideas through the internet instead. Both are American products, not imports.
The fact that the Christchurch shooter actually went to Ukraine is a totally different thing, and those links are worth exploring and highlighting - which the western media did before the rehabilitation of Azov this February.
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He copied/pasted that part from the NZ shooter's manifesto.Indeed, the opposite might be true.
This is the only part I'm interested in, how foreign policy entanglement leads to compromise on issues of rehabilitation.The fact that the Christchurch shooter actually went to Ukraine is a totally different thing, and those links are worth exploring and highlighting - which the western media did before the rehabilitation of Azov this February.
I can disentangle the two, anyway, to stop the thread being derailed. Was just something worth pointing out at the beginning but isn't the primary point as we all know there's a history in the US of white supremacy and that it's home-based.
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Amazing the number of white terrorists that are able to kill and commit mass murder and then survive the aftermath when compared to say, a black guy; selling cigarettes, going for a run, playing with a toy gun, walking out of a shop, driving a car, holding a cell phone, walking home with a hoodie, sleeping in a car, having mental health problems, etc.
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I swear such double standards make my blood boil every single time when they are reported in the news. Kyle Rittenhouse was the most blatant one, and how he did not get shot in the open while he was carrying that assault weapon is still beyond me.Amazing the number of white terrorists that are able to kill and commit mass murder and then survive the aftermath when compared to say, a black guy; selling cigarettes, going for a run, playing with a toy gun, walking out of a shop, driving a car, holding a cell phone, walking home with a hoodie, sleeping in a car, having mental health problems, etc.
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It's sad how many subscribe to the great replacement theory.
It's essentially anti-semtism repackaged against other races. I saw the comments on a post by the economist on YouTube and there were a load of people making the argument "how can the theory be false if demographics are changing" and other bad faith arguments.
My problem is what is the end goal of "replacement"?
And why do people invest so much value in a particular skin colour surviving? I can understand wanting to preserve culture but white isn't a culture, European cultures are numerous and diverse differing from country, region, city, language and other things.
It's essentially anti-semtism repackaged against other races. I saw the comments on a post by the economist on YouTube and there were a load of people making the argument "how can the theory be false if demographics are changing" and other bad faith arguments.
My problem is what is the end goal of "replacement"?
And why do people invest so much value in a particular skin colour surviving? I can understand wanting to preserve culture but white isn't a culture, European cultures are numerous and diverse differing from country, region, city, language and other things.
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It's even sadder that a crazed loon gunned down people some of whom would descendents of people brought over to the continent against their will.
White nationalism/supremacy is a mental disease
White nationalism/supremacy is a mental disease
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That's a hell of a point that I had not thought of before. Remarkable to think about.It's even sadder that a crazed loon gunned down people some of whom would descendents of people brought over to the continent against their will.
White nationalism/supremacy is a mental disease
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The shooter’s ancestors were the true replacers.That's a hell of a point that I had not thought of before. Remarkable to think about.
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Quite difficult to watch this. A white man murders a disabled black man in Italy. What’s shocking is that this is in broad daylight and lasts for over a minute but no body comes to his aid. People just watching and recording.
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How do we know it's racially motivated though?
Quite difficult to watch this. A white man murders a disabled black man in Italy. What’s shocking is that this is in broad daylight and lasts for over a minute but no body comes to his aid. People just watching and recording.
Shaun King says "out of the blue", some DailyMail article says Italian investigators point towards a compliment made to his girlfriend after which he exploded into rage.
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According to Italian media reports, the alleged attacker responded violently when Ogorchukwu said to his girlfriend: “Bella, can you buy some handkerchiefs or give me one euro.” The man is alleged to have grabbed a crutch the vendor used to walk and struck him down, according to police.How do we know it's racially motivated though?
Shaun King says "out of the blue", some DailyMail article says Italian investigators point towards a compliment made to his girlfriend after which he exploded into rage.
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2...suspicion-of-murdering-nigerian-street-seller
It might not be white supremacist / terrorist but I doubt this white guy would beat another white guy to death for saying the same thing.
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I find it incredible no one intervened.
The person filming is just as bad. I am livid.
The person filming is just as bad. I am livid.
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Were talking about a nation that happily sunbathed while there were dead bodies lying on their beach.I find it incredible no one intervened.
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I find it incredible no one intervened.
The person filming is just as bad. I am livid.
Bystander effect. It’s not a uniquely Italian phenomenon.Were talking about a nation that happily sunbathed while there were dead bodies lying on their beach.
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Because a white man as never beaten another white man to death in the history of mankind.According to Italian media reports, the alleged attacker responded violently when Ogorchukwu said to his girlfriend: “Bella, can you buy some handkerchiefs or give me one euro.” The man is alleged to have grabbed a crutch the vendor used to walk and struck him down, according to police.
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2...suspicion-of-murdering-nigerian-street-seller
It might not be white supremacist / terrorist but I doubt this white guy would beat another white guy to death for saying the same thing.
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Yes because that’s exactly the point I’m making. Well done.Because a white man as never beaten another white man to death in the history of mankind.
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What do you base this on?It might not be white supremacist / terrorist but I doubt this white guy would beat another white guy to death for saying the same thing.
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The social environment in Italy with regards to African street traders.What do you base this on?
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Bunch of self haters in this thread. Take pride in your race brothers.
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Wasn’t sure where to put this. But a white supremacist thread is as good as any.
What freaks me out is the utter confidence they have when they spew racist bile, towards a camera.
Is that just the way it’s always been in hicksville, USA? Or has Trump given scumbags a platform to spread hatred without any fear of consequence?
Basically, is the world uniquely shit right now or am I just an old fart, pining for better times that are only real in my own memory?
Which is how you could sum up 90% of my non-football threads.
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Wasn’t sure where to put this. But a white supremacist thread is as good as any.
What freaks me out is the utter confidence they have when they spew racist bile, towards a camera.
Is that just the way it’s always been in hicksville, USA? Or has Trump given scumbags a platform to spread hatred without any fear of consequence?
Basically, is the world uniquely shit right now or am I just an old fart, pining for better times that are only real in my own memory?
Which is how you could sum up 90% of my non-football threads.
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Wasn’t sure where to put this. But a white supremacist thread is as good as any.
What freaks me out is the utter confidence they have when they spew racist bile, towards a camera.
Is that just the way it’s always been in hicksville, USA? Or has Trump given scumbags a platform to spread hatred without any fear of consequence?
Basically, is the world uniquely shit right now or am I just an old fart, pining for better times that are only real in my own memory?
Which is how you could sum up 90% of my non-football threads.
You coulda made that same video outside hundreds of other Walmarts across the South and in pretty much any decade you wanted to choose.Is that just the way it’s always been in hicksville, USA?
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Which is, arguably, ironic.Not that it changes anything but that video is pretty old.
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I seen this. its an old clip. Different black youtubers went to the town (Harrison), very recently to investigate and nobody bothered them truthfully. One of them was British. In fact some of the younger kids in the town, recognized one of the youtubers, mobbed him and wanted pictures. They had ethnics living in the town too. They said that there is an area a bit further down where the KKK leader lives or something. I would say its not as crazy as the media makes out.Tweet
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Wasn’t sure where to put this. But a white supremacist thread is as good as any.
What freaks me out is the utter confidence they have when they spew racist bile, towards a camera.
Is that just the way it’s always been in hicksville, USA? Or has Trump given scumbags a platform to spread hatred without any fear of consequence?
Basically, is the world uniquely shit right now or am I just an old fart, pining for better times that are only real in my own memory?
Which is how you could sum up 90% of my non-football threads.
Here is one of the vids
I have just seen this thread. Fascinating subject.
I'll read back, but have the Bundyville podcasts been mentioned?
Odds are they have been by me and I've forgotten..
Edit - Same journo on the Oklahoma Bomb
I'll read back, but have the Bundyville podcasts been mentioned?
Odds are they have been by me and I've forgotten..
Edit - Same journo on the Oklahoma Bomb
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The YouTube guy should go visit Hico, TX, or Vidor, TX, for some true racist town in America action. Take some gay people as well, they're quite welcome in Vidor.