AFC asian Cup 2024
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Palestine 1-1 UAE and 20 minutes left on the match, UAE 1 man down.
India haven't made as much progress as I expected
Now iraq vs Japan.. 1-0 iraq.. 15 minutes in the game.
PGMOL should be making all the refs that operate VAR watch the AFCON and ASIAN cup games as homework for how the technology is suppose to be used.
Great decision from the ref there to keep his original decision of no pen on that tackle.
Great decision from the ref there to keep his original decision of no pen on that tackle.
Iraq 2-1 Japan FT.....Well deserved for Iraq.
This mean, we're gonna have a Japan vs. Korea match in R-16 if Korea win their group as expected and Japan finish runners up (unless Vietnam beats Iraq, since Asian Cup is GD and not H2H from what I recall)
This mean, we're gonna have a Japan vs. Korea match in R-16 if Korea win their group as expected and Japan finish runners up (unless Vietnam beats Iraq, since Asian Cup is GD and not H2H from what I recall)
Fair play to Iraq. They were the best team in the first half and they fought well.
Japan's goalkeepers are so shite. That Zion guy (who was linked to us last summer by the way!) has made a huge blunder two games in a row now. I remember a pretty big mistake last world cup too, although that was a different goalkeeper.
I'm starting to think that South Korea will walk this tournament. They have so many good, in-form players now. Son, Kim, Lee and Hee-chan just to name a few.
Japan's goalkeepers are so shite. That Zion guy (who was linked to us last summer by the way!) has made a huge blunder two games in a row now. I remember a pretty big mistake last world cup too, although that was a different goalkeeper.
I'm starting to think that South Korea will walk this tournament. They have so many good, in-form players now. Son, Kim, Lee and Hee-chan just to name a few.
What a game and result for Iraq. I was hoping Zidane to play, but he will play next match sure.
Buzzing if we get that Korea v Japan last 16 tie.
I'm in Seoul at the moment doing a bit of work, all the Koreans I work with going nuts. Huge rivalry.
I'm in Seoul at the moment doing a bit of work, all the Koreans I work with going nuts. Huge rivalry.
Is that what will happen if one of them win their group and the other finish second?
I was kind of hoping for those two in the final to get the ultimate stakes, although I guess being guaranteed that game is better than nothing. Are there any other cool rivalries in the AFC?
If Korea win the group (almost guaranteed) and Japan come 2nd (also now highly likely) that's the R16 game yep.
First proper competitive game between the two since 2011 from what I can make out. Will be huge.
Japan vs. Korea
Iran vs. Korea
Iraq vs. Iran
Japan vs. Saudi
Saudi vs. Qatar at a push since 2017
Australia is a funny case. They’ve been in AFC for twenty years, yet they are yet to play either Korea or Iran in a formal match (either WC qualifiers or Asian Cup).
For some strange reason, literally every single WCQ campaign you have Saudi/Japan/Aussies on one side, and Iran/Korea on another.
this AsianCup would have been the same bracket wise had all 5 won their groups as expected. With Japan now losing to Iraq, things get a bit more exciting.
Iraq vs Iran vs Saudi.
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They beat Germany by 4 goals, Canada by 4 goals, Turkey by 4 goals on those 11 win streak.
I always keep an eye on Australia, and would like them (and USA) to kick on at some stage.
However, Australia don't seem to be producing (m)any promising attacking players since Cahill and Kewell. Especially #9's or #10's. I've read about another raw, promising winger - 17 year old Nestory Irankunda, who is set to join Bayern Munich. It would be nice if he kicks on, though I don't think he's in the squad for this tournament, and I think he can also still represent one or two other nations at senior level.
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However, Australia don't seem to be producing (m)any promising attacking players since Cahill and Kewell. Especially #9's or #10's. I've read about another raw, promising winger - 17 year old Nestory Irankunda, who is set to join Bayern Munich. It would be nice if he kicks on, though I don't think he's in the squad for this tournament, and I think he can also still represent one or two other nations at senior level.
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Moriyasu's priority for his goalkeeper is the one who can play the ball with his feet and has great ball-distribution skills. Suzuki isn't the real number 1 goalkeeper of Japan. Moriyasu wants to try this kid as the number-one position since he is only 21 years old, and everyone doesn't know what his mind thinking of. I get the point that he wants to try this kid since Gonda (the number 1 goalkeeper in WC 2022) is 35 years old this year. However, they still have at least 3 goalkeepers who I think are better than him at not conceding a goal at the post.
- Keisuke Osako, who has played several matches in Japan's National football team. He is only 24 years old. He played in the match in which Japan demolished both Canada and Germany.
-์Nakamura, who plays in Portugal and is rated as one of the best goalkeepers in Japan. However, Moriyasu didn't call him to this tournament.
-Gonda, a veteran goalkeeper. Although he plays in League 2, his experiences still almost guarantee that he will not miss some silly mistakes like an inexperienced Zion guy.
We met in the 2015 final where Australia beat us in extra time. Coincidentally, Ange was their manager while Son played for us and scored the equalizer.
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Been enjoying this tbh.
I hope we manage to beat Tajikistan (tough team) and go through to the R16 for the first time.
No team has impressed me (from the favorites) so far but I'm expecting them to pick up for in the next round.
I hope we manage to beat Tajikistan (tough team) and go through to the R16 for the first time.
No team has impressed me (from the favorites) so far but I'm expecting them to pick up for in the next round.
Iran vs HK was a tough watch
Yeah, the gap between the big boys and those belonging a tier below seems to have considerably narrowed.
Completely escaped my mind.
Honestly, I've been following the Asian Cup less and less as I've been growing up. But my most fond memories of the cup seem to have always come when we (Iran) play Korea.
1996 QF: Korea leading 2-1 at half time, then Ali Daei scores 4 in second half and we win 6-2.
2000 QF: We're leading you guys 1-0 with an absolute screamer by Bagheri, then you equalize in injury time and win with golden goal
2004 QF: Probably the greatest Asian Cup match of all time, we beat you 4-3 with an iconic Ali Karimi hattrick.
Both Iran and Korea are having nearly half-century draughts of winning the cup, as all of our 3 victories came during the Shah time (no surprise, as with his departure everything good left our country), and we haven't even been able to host a tournament since 1979 due to the backwards, barbaric, occupying terrorist regime. But I wonder why Korea hasn't hosted an Asian Cup all these years, you guys have had no excuse not to! Always something that's been lingering in my mind! Even Japan seem to not care about hosting this tournament for the past 30 odd years.
It's weird.
On paper, Japan should walk this with Iran as 2nd favourites. South Korea are playing well with a lot of local players though and they've been the most impressive so far.
Iraq have been investing heavily in their infrastructure and are very active now when it comes to players born abroad. I think the gap will get smaller as more nations are looking into players born abroad but I don't see anyone consistently breaking into that top tier any time soon (Japan, Korea, Iran, SA, Australia).
I've been enjoying it a lot though.
What a result for Jordan it would have been if they could have hold on for few more minutes, but not a bad result in the end 2-2 against S. Korea
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Middle Eastern teams are never easy to play against especially away at their region, and Jordan is no exception as all of our wins against them were 1-0, with another 2-2 in a WC qualifier before that. Nobody really seemed up for it this match either besides Kim Min Jae who was basically stopping everything on his own.
Did turn up a gear when they started tiring and got a late equalizer, but a win wouldn't have particularly been undeserved for Jordan. Things look hairy for us either way with Japan all but guaranteed to finish 2nd in the group though.
I agree that it's bit of a 'so close yet so far' situation. While the gap has considerably narrowed like you I don't think Iraq and Qatar can consistently compete with Japan and South Korea just yet.
Another gap that has also narrowed is between the likes of China or Oman or the UAE with, say, Lebanon or Indonesia or Vietnam. Interesting times in the AFC.
Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and Jordan are making a lot of effort now to attract players from their respective diaspora.
I'm Lebanese, half of our team is born abroad and there's ongoing work to bring the likes of Rami Al Hajj (Former Sweden u21), Reda Khadra (Had a trial at United, played for Germany u21) and others from Europe and the Americas so the gap will get narrower.
The reason as to why it's not sustainable is because you need a strong local league and can't just rely on foreign born players.
Tajikistan with a late comeback to beat Lebanon and secure their first ever Asian Cup goals + win + advancement to the KO round !!
China is pretty much out guaranteed. 2 points from 3 games and I doubt they'll be one of the best 3rd teams. It's incredible how bad they are given their population and resources.
Glad to have another Persian team making a good impression. Always loved my interactions with Tajik Yandeks drivers when I was in Russia. They speak Persian language in such an interesting and cute way !
China is pretty much out guaranteed. 2 points from 3 games and I doubt they'll be one of the best 3rd teams. It's incredible how bad they are given their population and resources.
Glad to have another Persian team making a good impression. Always loved my interactions with Tajik Yandeks drivers when I was in Russia. They speak Persian language in such an interesting and cute way !
The Central Asian teams are making the much expected step up with the progress their youth teams have been making lately. Uzbekistan look strong with some fine young players, Tajikistan have been impressive.
China still messing about, just doesn't look like the increased spots for Asia is going to result in a Chinese participation in the WC anytime soon.
China still messing about, just doesn't look like the increased spots for Asia is going to result in a Chinese participation in the WC anytime soon.
Theoretically Iran should easily win this but they're coached by the Iranian version of Big Sam. They'll get Lucky to even make the quarter finals.
I know Japan somehow lost to Iraq, but I'm not sure the gap has narrowed at the top.
Japan seem to not care much about the Asian Cup and just testing out players here yet most bookies still make them clear favourites despite that loss to Iraq.
But the gap in the middle has indeed narrowed.
China has got a lot worse in the last decade or so, no goal and basically out of the Asian Cup barring a miracle.
They even managed to lose to Hong Kong earlier this year.
Today’s results have given huge importance to tomorrow’s Syria V India match … now very high chances for the winner especially Syria to secure R-16 qualification cz now China has 2 pts, the max pts Palestine would get is 4 with current -3 goal difference and also I doubt Indonesia would get any point from Japan
Historical match for both teams tomorrow
Still I think Hector Cuper would choose defensive tactics against India tomorrow to secure another point then hoping that Palestine draw then Syria would go through hahaha this guy has been and always will be obsessed with conservative football
Historical match for both teams tomorrow
Still I think Hector Cuper would choose defensive tactics against India tomorrow to secure another point then hoping that Palestine draw then Syria would go through hahaha this guy has been and always will be obsessed with conservative football
India are just abysmal. Syria rightfully through
It's always been a surprise to me how shit India always seem to be.
Every Indian I've ever met loves football.
There has to be a few people in the English game who qualify via the grandparents rule, don't they ever get picked for the national team or are there literally none to pick on the first place?
Edit, I've googled this and found out that India won't call up anyone with dual nationality. Mental.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.th...reach-world-cup-picking-overseas-born-players
Every Indian I've ever met loves football.
There has to be a few people in the English game who qualify via the grandparents rule, don't they ever get picked for the national team or are there literally none to pick on the first place?
Edit, I've googled this and found out that India won't call up anyone with dual nationality. Mental.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.th...reach-world-cup-picking-overseas-born-players
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Out of curiosity (maybe someone else in here knows): are there any good players with Indian dual citizenship who would also be likely to join the Indian national team if this rule didn't exist?
If I was in charge I'd scrap the rule and tempt these dual citizen players with Bollywood babes
There were a few who wanted to represent India, like Michael Chopra but as you've said, the FA doesn't call up dual nationals.
They should be dong better but their league even with the ISL the top 10 scorers are all non Indians. So Its not like talent is being produced with this rule. Sunil Chettri must be around 40 now and he still starts
I don't think there's any really top, top players but there's simply got to be handful of at least Championship level guys who would be significantly better than those starting at this tourney for India.Out of curiosity (maybe someone else in here knows): are there any good players with Indian dual citizenship who would also be likely to join the Indian national team if this rule didn't exist?
If I was in charge I'd scrap the rule and tempt these dual citizen players with Bollywood babes
I do get that they wouldn't want to just make up the whole squad with players who most likely haven't ever even been to India but 4 or 5 in a squad of 22 could have a decent impact.