Referees apologise most to Liverpool

Wumminator · Feb 8, 2024

https://www.football365.com/news/li...the,to miscommunication between the officials.

Just seen this. If you want any more proof that the team is favoured by officials look at this. They have been apologised to over VAR mistakes more than anyone else.

Notice we didn’t get one for Dalot being sent off against them when Nunez did worse in that game.

We didn’t get one for the blatant penalty against Tottenham not given.

I’ve seen some Liverpool fans acting like the FA criticising VAR decisions against them means they’re receiving more bad decisions. Have you heard of a more deluded fanbase? This is more proof of how favoured they are.

Bestie07 · Feb 8, 2024

Have we ever received an apology from a referee?

2 man midfield · Feb 8, 2024

Wouldn’t this also mean they’ve been subject to the most feck ups?

Withnail · Feb 8, 2024

Wumminator said:
https://www.football365.com/news/liverpool-most-var-errors-premier-league-aston-villa-rub-of-green#:~:text=The Reds certainly suffered the,to miscommunication between the officials.

Just seen this. If you want any more proof that the team is favoured by officials look at this. They have been apologised to over VAR mistakes more than anyone else.

Notice we didn’t get one for Dalot being sent off against them when Nunez did worse in that game.

We didn’t get one for the blatant penalty against Tottenham not given.

I’ve seen some Liverpool fans acting like the FA criticising VAR decisions against them means they’re receiving more bad decisions. Have you heard of a more deluded fanbase? This is more proof of how favoured they are.

Hold up. The VAR committee are claiming we had no VAR errors against and two in our favour this season?

Oh and they're claiming 96% accuracy. They are having a feckin laugh.

V.O. · Feb 8, 2024

When you classify things like this starfish dive as a correctly given penalty, of course Liverpool are somehow the most hard done by team in the league as well :lol:

Rob · Feb 8, 2024

Did you read the article?

Wumminator · Feb 8, 2024

Rob said:
Did you read the article?

Yes . Proves referees are scared of giving 50/50 decisions against Liverpool.

Rob · Feb 8, 2024

2 man midfield said:
Wouldn’t this also mean they’ve been subject to the most feck ups?

Yes, and that’s what it says in the article. Nothing about apologies.

RedRocket9908 · Feb 8, 2024

There are stats that show Liverpool get treated fairer than other teams by the refs, for example they have made the 6th most fouls in the league with 278 but have only had 42 yellow cards which is less than 15 other teams and only 5 more than Arsenal who have had the least.

90 + 5min · Feb 8, 2024

Wumminator said:
https://www.football365.com/news/liverpool-most-var-errors-premier-league-aston-villa-rub-of-green#:~:text=The Reds certainly suffered the,to miscommunication between the officials.

Just seen this. If you want any more proof that the team is favoured by officials look at this. They have been apologised to over VAR mistakes more than anyone else.

Notice we didn’t get one for Dalot being sent off against them when Nunez did worse in that game.

We didn’t get one for the blatant penalty against Tottenham not given.

I’ve seen some Liverpool fans acting like the FA criticising VAR decisions against them means they’re receiving more bad decisions. Have you heard of a more deluded fanbase? This is more proof of how favoured they are.

Should we even be surprised?

We know how we are treated and we know how other teams are treated. It's been like that for many, many years. We have lost lots of games this and many seasons before because of strange decisions. Everything from ghost penalties to VAR line drawings. From volleyball playing to some made up red cards and decisions.

Our club is still sitting calm and silent.

Rob · Feb 8, 2024

Wumminator said:
Yes . Proves referees are scared of giving 50/50 decisions against Liverpool.

This is like a Republican politician trying to convince everyone that climate change isn’t real by linking to to an article that says our grandchildren might not have a planet :lol:

Lemoor · Feb 8, 2024

Withnail said:
Hold up. The VAR committee are claiming we had no VAR errors against and two in our favour this season?

Oh and they're claiming 96% accuracy. They are having a feckin laugh.

What was the second one in our favor?

Hugh Jass · Feb 8, 2024

Its a conspiracy.

Wumminator · Feb 8, 2024

Rob said:
This is like a Republican politician trying to convince everyone that climate change isn’t real by linking to to an article that says our grandchildren might not have a planet

Are you being serious?

The referees find that they’re going against Liverpool more than anyone else - and you think this is something that shows they’re bias against Liverpool?

Any systemic bias against a team would result in the referees admitting no mistakes against them. Obviously.

RedRocket9908 · Feb 8, 2024

Lemoor said:
What was the second one in our favor?

The only one mentioned anywhere is the Wolves one but im guessing the 2nd might be the red card against Forest.

Wumminator · Feb 8, 2024

Lemoor said:
What was the second one in our favor?

The referee let us play with eleven for most of the game against Liverpool despite Dalot not touching the sign in the tunnel before he walked out for the second half.

Pexbo · Feb 8, 2024

Rob said:
This is like a Republican politician trying to convince everyone that climate change isn’t real by linking to to an article that says our grandchildren might not have a planet

You’re kinda missing the point aren’t you? Everyone has had decisions that are questionable. The difference is that the committee that reviews decisions 95 times out of 100 will dismiss the incident and side with the on field referee and VAR team. Liverpool are the exception to that rule and get an apology the same day. Literally nobody else gets that treatment.

Off the top of my head we have had:

Garnacho shot from 15 yards away hitting Romero’s outstretched hand. Clear penalty.

Højlund wrestled to the floor with no challenge made by Gabriel.

Hojlund’s goal ruled out when there was no clear angle to determine if the ball went out of play. Since then two other decisions have been shirked by VAR for the same reason.

Dalot red card for two yellows for the same incedent.

Garnacho holding the ball off in the box and literally being picked up and pulled back.

Evans blatantly in the area just before the Rice goal and when he would have been defending the front post.

The ball floated 30 yards to Rashford and the defender turns and holds his arms out and deflects it with his hand.

Morgan Gibbs White already on a yellow fouls three times in 5 seconds then kicks the ball away then shouts at the referee and doesn’t even concede a free kick for it.

But sure, the committee decided all of these were the correct decisions despite rival fans and pundits calling the majority of them out.

Wumminator · Feb 8, 2024

Pexbo said:
You’re kinda missing the point aren’t you? Everyone has had decisions that are questionable. The difference is that the committee that reviews decisions 95 times out of 100 will dismiss the incident and side with the on field referee and VAR team. Liverpool are the exception to that rule and get an apology the same day. Literally nobody else gets that treatment.

Off the top of my head we have had:

Garnacho shot from 15 yards away hitting Romero’s outstretched hand. Clear penalty.

Højlund wrestled to the floor with no challenge made by Gabriel.

Hojlund’s goal ruled out when there was no clear angle to determine if the ball went out of play. Since then two other decisions have been shirked by VAR for the same reason.

Dalot red card for two yellows for the same incedent.

Garnacho holding the ball off in the box and literally being picked up and pulled back.

Evans blatantly in the area just before the Rice goal and when he would have been defending the front post.

The ball floated 30 yards to Rashford and the defender turns and holds his arms out and deflects it with his hand.

Morgan Gibbs White already on a yellow fouls three times in 5 seconds then kicks the ball away then shouts at the referee and doesn’t even concede a free kick for it.

But sure, the committee decided all of these were the correct decisions despite rival fans and pundits calling the majority of them out.

Never mind the city penalty for Holjund holding Rodri when it’s happened literally every game against us since.

Not mistakes though any of those.

RedRocket9908 · Feb 8, 2024

Pexbo said:
You’re kinda missing the point aren’t you? Everyone has had decisions that are questionable. The difference is that the committee that reviews decisions 95 times out of 100 will dismiss the incident and side with the on field referee and VAR team. Liverpool are the exception to that rule and get an apology the same day. Literally nobody else gets that treatment.

Off the top of my head we have had:

Garnacho shot from 15 yards away hitting Romero’s outstretched hand. Clear penalty.

Højlund wrestled to the floor with no challenge made by Gabriel.

Hojlund’s goal ruled out when there was no clear angle to determine if the ball went out of play. Since then two other decisions have been shirked by VAR for the same reason.

Dalot red card for two yellows for the same incedent.

Garnacho holding the ball off in the box and literally being picked up and pulled back.

Evans blatantly in the area just before the Rice goal and when he would have been defending the front post.

The ball floated 30 yards to Rashford and the defender turns and holds his arms out and deflects it with his hand.

Morgan Gibbs White already on a yellow fouls three times in 5 seconds then kicks the ball away then shouts at the referee and doesn’t even concede a free kick for it.

But sure, the committee decided all of these were the correct decisions despite rival fans and pundits calling the majority of them out.

I think there is a directive from PGMOL that no incorrect VAR decision against Man Utd should be mentioned in order to avoid the inevitable huge backlash that would come from the media and rival fans if they did mention them.

Wumminator · Feb 8, 2024

RedRocket9908 said:
I think there is a directive from PGMOL that no incorrect VAR decision against Man Utd should be mentioned in order to avoid the inevitable huge backlash that would come from the media and rival fans if they did mention them.

No - you see - referees saying they’ve made mistakes against Liverpool means they’re biased against Liverpool. If the referees never apologise to us it’s because we’re so favoured.

RedRocket9908 · Feb 8, 2024

Wumminator said:
No - you see - referees saying they’ve made mistakes against Liverpool means they’re biased against Liverpool. If the referees never apologise to us it’s because we’re so favoured.

The fact that none of the bad VAR decisions that go against us are mentioned in this report and are never used on that refs mic'd up show tells you all you need to know.

Rob · Feb 8, 2024

Wumminator said:
Are you being serious?

The referees find that they’re going against Liverpool more than anyone else - and you think this is something that shows they’re bias against Liverpool?

Any systemic bias against a team would result in the referees admitting no mistakes against them. Obviously.

Maybe my English is failing me here, but when have I ever said there was a systemic bias against anyone? The article says an Independent panel has found that Liverpool have been on the end of more wrong VAR calls than any other side. And you deducted that this proofs Liverpool are favored.

Lemoor · Feb 8, 2024

RedRocket9908 said:
The only one mentioned anywhere is the Wolves one but im guessing the 2nd might be the red card against Forest.

That would be completely absurd, but this was my best guess too. Although I don't remember any apologies after that at least.

Wumminator said:
The referee let us play with eleven for most of the game against Liverpool despite Dalot not touching the sign in the tunnel before he walked out for the second half.

That should come with a 10 match ban, to be fair.

BeforeKeanetherewasRobson · Feb 8, 2024

Rob said:
Yes, and that’s what it says in the article. Nothing about apologies.

The article‘s wrong.

And reading the op, could be me but I read “They have been apologised to over VAR mistakes more than anyone else” as separate to the comments about ESPNs (… ESPN :lol:

) article.

Lemoor · Feb 8, 2024

RedRocket9908 said:
I think there is a directive from PGMOL that no incorrect VAR decision against Man Utd should be mentioned in order to avoid the inevitable huge backlash that would come from the media and rival fans if they did mention them.

This doesn't require any conspiracy. Any referee can see that a bad call in favor of United resulted in massive media backlash and dropping those referees and a dozen bad decisions going the other way get their full cover. Of course in doubt and under time pressure they are going to err on the side where their job is safe.

DJ_21 · Feb 8, 2024

Wumminator said:
Yes . Proves referees are scared of giving 50/50 decisions against Liverpool.

They do get a lot of decisions gone for them just like the one at city when they scored but it was a foul on Allison yet the same incident happened again in a city game and the goal got given, every team has there fair share of bad and good decisions though.

IRELANDUNITED · Feb 8, 2024

I’ve been saying this for months - WE NEED TO KICK UP MUCH MORE OF A FUSS WHEN WE GET AWFUL DECISIONS AGAINST US.

We are too calm, from our players to our managers to our pundits to even us ourselves the fans. When a decision goes against Liverpool they go absolutely ape shite, Klopp is giving it large in the post match press conference and interviews and their fans act as if a crime against humanity has been committed.

When it happens to us we have a little moan, feel sorry for ourselves for a while but then turn our attention to other things like the team performance or blaming the manager.

There isn’t much I admire about Liverpool, I think they are an awful club and a huge percentage of their fans are imbeciles but if there is one thing they do well is they know how to look out for themselves, they know how to twist things and gain every little advantage. We need to learn from this.

Sgt.Dignam · Feb 8, 2024

There is some strong tin hat action going on here

MikeKing · Feb 8, 2024

Withnail said:
Hold up. The VAR committee are claiming we had no VAR errors against and two in our favour this season?

Oh and they're claiming 96% accuracy. They are having a feckin laugh.

There are literally video evidence of the opposite, yet, the transparency around that fact is still locked down, like before. Nobody is supposed to think it, so they ignore it and say something else.

In a way I love VAR, because it actually does highlight for the public how bad it has been for years with these. Ran like a mob. The public should demand transparency, along with a massive update in that old boys club. It reeks of a unprofessional environment and it's incredibly open to corruption as it stands, due to how protective they are. It's like they are hiding something, and then when we all see something clear that they wont admit to, then what exactly are we supposed to think is going on?

Scandi Red · Feb 8, 2024

Classic Liverpool. If there was any justice in the world they'd have maybe 3 or 4 trophies throughout their whole history. Just add this to the pile of evidence!!

Waynne · Feb 8, 2024

V.O. said:
When you classify things like this starfish dive as a correctly given penalty, of course Liverpool are somehow the most hard done by team in the league as well

Wow, this is criminal

Nas-JR · Feb 8, 2024

Lemoor said:
What was the second one in our favor?

Get this, the second one is the Havertz pen that was overturned! Read it on sky news earlier and was flabbergasted. Thought my eyes were playing tricks on me (maybe they were?). Beyond a farce that it was called out.

I hope Sir Jimmy has a plan to sort them out.

Sassy Colin · Feb 8, 2024

Lemoor said:
That should come with a 10 match ban, to be fair.

For Casimero, of course.

Lemoor · Feb 9, 2024

Nas-JR said:
Get this, the second one is the Havertz pen that was overturned! Read it on sky news earlier and was flabbergasted. Thought my eyes were playing tricks on me (maybe they were?). Beyond a farce that it was called out.

I hope Sir Jimmy has a plan to sort them out.

feck me, that's amazing :lol:

njred · Feb 9, 2024

Var has impacted Liverpool worse than any other team this season whilst united has received the most favorable results. There is no spinning it if we are talking strictly VAR. Supporters can’t bring up what should have been called because every fanbase has shouts in that . So now we know. Forget about refs saying sorry, I think other supporters should say sorry to Liverpool for shouting that we have benefitted from VAR decisions.

Wumminator · Feb 9, 2024

njred said:
Var has impacted Liverpool worse than any other team this season whilst united has received the most favorable results. There is no spinning it if we are talking strictly VAR. Supporters can’t bring up what should have been called because every fanbase has shouts in that . So now we know. Forget about refs saying sorry, I think other supporters should say sorry to Liverpool for shouting that we have benefitted from VAR decisions.

VAR has not impacted Liverpool the most.

What it shows is that when Liverpool have gotten some calls the fanbase don’t like, the referees are forced to apologise and claim it was wrong. When it’s United who get horrendous calls (as in the game against you) nothing is said and there’s no apology.

The referees running VAR have come out and said “oh we’re so unfair against Liverpool” and you’ve taken that as - “oh they must be right” anyone with critical thinking can see that if the referees are saying they’re harsh against Liverpool, there’s a bias there towards them. This is not an independent arbitrator, this is the FA basically highlighting that it is the wrong decision to go against Liverpool.

B20 · Feb 9, 2024

*article posted about Liverpool being the club with the most wrong var calls against them*

*discussion is about all the apologies they get and how that shows refs are biased in Liverpools favour *.

We are truly in a post modern society. This must be what it's like for non republicans to read republican forums.

Escobar · Feb 9, 2024

Deduct points!

Pogue Mahone · Feb 9, 2024

Wumminator said:
VAR has not impacted Liverpool the most.

What it shows is that when Liverpool have gotten some calls the fanbase don’t like, the referees are forced to apologise and claim it was wrong. When it’s United who get horrendous calls (as in the game against you) nothing is said and there’s no apology.

The referees running VAR have come out and said “oh we’re so unfair against Liverpool” and you’ve taken that as - “oh they must be right” anyone with critical thinking can see that if the referees are saying they’re harsh against Liverpool, there’s a bias there towards them. This is not an independent arbitrator, this is the FA basically highlighting that it is the wrong decision to go against Liverpool.

Eh? Here’s a line from that article you just shared.

Liverpool have had more VAR errors go against them than any other Premier League side.

Burrow · Feb 9, 2024

B20 said:
*article posted about Liverpool being the club with the most wrong var calls against them*

*discussion is about all the apologies they get and how that shows refs are biased in Liverpools favour *.

We are truly in a post modern society. This must be what it's like for non republicans to read republican forums.

I pray to higher powers that most posters have learned not to bite on your posts by now... :lol:

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