Serious batting. That four off Root just now..
England Tour of India
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Outrageous gear change this, went from 2nd to 7th.
This is a great pitch, England have thrown away a fantastic chance here
I reckon that leave was his best decision in this session. Looks like there’s something there for Root when he fizzes it in with the side arm action.
India have been every bit as good today as England were in the final session last night with the bat. But they've done it all day on both disciplines.
This thread understandably obsessed with England being RedCafe but they never lose at home for a reason.
They bowled better but England threw a lot of their wickets away. That will now cost them the match. The dropped catches in the first innings also didn’t help. It’s the key moments which England seem to lose.
I agree with whatever you've posted.
Some times the better team wins. Duckett was brilliant yesterday, and it is the same approach they brought to the game today. I don't agree on the Joe Root point but England are a very good batting team who just got outplayed by an even better bowling performance today
As weak as Englands spin line up has been, our batting line up is every bit as weak. Anyone arguing against that is kidding themselves. That said, India have become mentality demons - we beat Aus in Aus with fecking Washington and Thakur as some of our strongest batsmen.
Gill reduced to just getting Jaiswal on strike because Jaiswal is that locked in right now.
This rootalitharan experiment reminds me of how Chappell tried to convert Irfan Pathan into an all rounder and destroyed both his batting and bowling. Root is your best batsman, why change his role? Now a days he seems to me as a player who will score 50-60 at max, whereas he should be the one to score big hundreds in first innings.
There’s no experiment he’s just out of form with the bat.
I think the nuance everyone seems to be getting their wires crossed out over is that it's not relative merit but absolute merit. Yes, Hartley/Bashir are "second string" choice of performers for England whilst the same is true of India. But it's also true that India can probably pull out second, third string reserves from Ranji who are capable of batting spin at a much higher level than England's second string are capable of bowling spin.
It is both true that Virat, KL, Rishabh are big misses and that India can get about half a dozen replacements who should be able to expected to produce better quality than England's spin. I think, from outside this team, you could pick the likes of Padikkal, Mayank, Pujara, Sai Sudarshan, Vihari etc who will slot in very competently.
That being said, really should've capitalised against a team playing with 10 players and there'll be no excuse for that if the trajectory of the game goes on as right now.
He is just a bit out of form. Sure that shot to get out that early was stupid but he just needs to find his form again. Get in for a bit and then he can start playing shots.
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Plus England’s middle order is actually batting at the exact same level as India’s right now.
Jaiswal is a joy to watch. Great find.
India should bat until the end of the 2nd session, 4 sessions should be enough to knock England over I reckon. They rarely bat more than a 100 overs at the best of times.
Magnificent innings. The kid looks like a superstar.
I wonder how much of an influence Jos Buttler has been on him. Must've been extremely useful batting alongside him.
I have this as England’s worst day under Stokes. Rubbish with the bat and flat in the field.
I somewhat agree but only partly. We've been dreadful against spin for years. Plenty of rookie spinners have been competent in India in recent years such as Tom Hartley with the 7-fer and I'm sure one or two of the Aussies showed us up too. Maybe its just me, but I don't expect much of our batters against any spinner. Jaiswal is reminding me of the yester years where we'd demolish all foreign spinners.
Probably, I can think of a few good contenders (NZ away, SA home, Aussie second test) that had a complete capitulation day in each from memory but we've been smashed in every session here.
Look at the conditions today, one bowler down, super hot and a good pitch, perfect to bat all day and grind the opposition in the dust. It’s the worst for sure.
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Look up the second NZ test mate. We should have won by an innings, decided to 'make a game of it' to save test cricket and got beat
But I hear you.
Im up for a bite! Is working in India so far!
Ah yeah that was bad but the no call on Wagner for the wide there, still not over that.Look up the second NZ test mate. We should have won by an innings, decided to 'make a game of it' to save test cricket and got beat
But I hear you.
I don't think I've ever been that arsed of a test defeat other than v Australia but yeah that was annoying.
The most runs is fascinating, top 3 vs top 3, Jaiswal the difference whilst both middle orders are stuck in a funk. Even then Jadeja’s made a big contribution in this test. England haven’t had anything outside of Stokes 50 in the first test.
Very poor day for England, all coming from Roots dismissal.He had a great opportunity to find some form and bat all day but it always looks bad getting out to that shot, bring it out when your well set not 18 not out.Some poor dismissals and the match has now gone.Very frustrating.
Ok I take it back, Patidar is awful
Patidar with two of the worst dismissals you'll see
Game on.
Next Bradman.
I think @KM ‘s Ranji correction factor was too fair if anything.
He's been reading this thread.
Root has had bad series before but this feels like the first time in his career that he's actually looked out of form. That scoop has worked well for him on so many occasions, I don't think it's fair to criticise too much when it goes wrong. There was an occasion in the Ashes where he played it first ball of the day against Cummins, you could say that was reckless or whatever but it came off so everyone says 'great shot'.
There's such a fine line between playing in this style and complete stupidity that sometimes you just have to accept there will be days like this.
There's such a fine line between playing in this style and complete stupidity that sometimes you just have to accept there will be days like this.
If Jaiswal is injured for next match then bite the bullet and just call Prithvi Shaw.
Rohit and Shaw batting together will be incredible to see. feck your yo yo test and fitness.
Rohit and Shaw batting together will be incredible to see. feck your yo yo test and fitness.
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Scyld Berry would fit right into our thread