Eric Ramsey - Set Piece Coach | Agreed deal with Minnesota United
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I never thought our set piece coach would be a wanted man seeing as we are absolutely useless at both defending them and scoring from them
Pretty random. We are terrible at set pieces, not sure if that's up to him or the players though. So not sure I can say this is a loss.
That’s not all he does. He’s also responsible for individual development in the first team. And of course a first team coach along with the others.
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36 month gardening leave or 100m compensation and a men in black style memory wipe.
Somebody get his fecking laptop
50 TB of cross it into Casemiro or McTominay
Have none of you learned anything after our previous ‘terrible coaches’ Carrick and McKenna have torn it up in their respective new roles?
Good luck Eric, go win that Conference playoff all star World Series or whatever it’s called. You too could be hipster manager flavour of the month soon!
Good luck Eric, go win that Conference playoff all star World Series or whatever it’s called. You too could be hipster manager flavour of the month soon!
Exactly this
Yeah I mean you are right that despite a couple of new variations, our attacking set pieces have been pretty poor. Although with proper delivery (mainly from Shaw) we’ve scored from a few free kicks.
Defending set pieces up and down.
Wasn’t he being approached for by Swansea and Blackpool and maybe some other EFL clubs?
Minnesota United seems like one hell of a drop in quality with all respect to them.
Minnesota United seems like one hell of a drop in quality with all respect to them.
Yeah, I think he was offered the Blackpool job last season but we refused to let him go. And there were reports on the BBC that Swansea were interested a couple of months ago.
Sir Jim needs to hire Arsenals set piece coach.
Our set pieces to improve by default from next game onwards.
I think we've looked a bit better at set pieces the past couple of weeks. Sure, we've conceded from them anyway, but that Villa one seemed particularly unfortunate and we've been winning more first contacts.
Obviously Ramsay was involved in more than just set pieces, but I hope we respond to him leaving by poaching a proper specialist from a PL rival. Bernardo Cueva of Brentford has a good track record, as does Austin MacPhee of Villa.
I have no idea who's doing them at Arsenal but, if it isn't Arteta himself, forget those guys and get this one in a van.
Obviously Ramsay was involved in more than just set pieces, but I hope we respond to him leaving by poaching a proper specialist from a PL rival. Bernardo Cueva of Brentford has a good track record, as does Austin MacPhee of Villa.
I have no idea who's doing them at Arsenal but, if it isn't Arteta himself, forget those guys and get this one in a van.
If we started doing Villa's set piece routines, that 'players stood offside blocking off defenders' bullshit would be banned within a month.
This lad will go and do a McKenna. We still have too many players afraid of the gritty side of the game, it’s slowly improving at least
You mention we should poach someone from a premier league rival which had me at
Then mention Brentford and Villa
They've been really good at them for a couple of years each now. The standouts this season have been Everton and Luton, which should surprise absolutely nobody given the game those sides play.You mention we should poach someone from a premier league rival which had me at
Then mention Brentford and Villa
And of course Arsenal, who I mentioned and are utterly ridiculous at them. Again, I have no idea who handles them there, and in fairness I'm not sure how much of their success is down to Gabriel being such a huge threat on his own.
With Villa and Brentford, it's just very clever routines, although @V.O. makes a fair point regarding the former.
Pretty sure Ramsay's role got changed from set piece coach to individual development under Ten Hag. I might be wrong and he might do both.
However I found his hire as a set piece coach to be an odd one at the time. I remember his previous club posting a farewell message where they praised his ability to coach patterns of play building from the defence and not his immense knowledge of set plays.
However I found his hire as a set piece coach to be an odd one at the time. I remember his previous club posting a farewell message where they praised his ability to coach patterns of play building from the defence and not his immense knowledge of set plays.
Ramsey’s Kitchen Nightmares USA: Eric tells a live studio audience about the time some dopey cnut fed him raw chicken while at Old Trafford.
I remember him being highly rated before joining us. Maybe he can prove us wrong and make a name for himself in MLS.
Apparently he is highly rated. But if his main thing is set pieces, then I'm very whatever about him and we should probably replace, because we've been one of the worst set piece teams (defending and attacking) by many metrics for a couple of seasons now
Our throw in 'routine' is absolutely shambolic. Walk up to the ball with no urgency so that the opposition team is set; no idea of game management to speeden this process up and catch teams off guard or get an easy outlet. Have no clear short, medium or long options. Throw it down the line to someone, who is marked by two players. Lose ball and/or hope we somehow retain possession.
I don't know why Onana doesn't just get himself in the way of the offside player. Stand beside or behind them, then when the ball is delivered, just bump into them. Automatic interference of play.
He was arguably one of the best set pieces coaches, after watching us at defending and attacking set pieces I'd say it was all bullshit. We're terrible at both.
We are but honestly I think most of that is down to the players. Being good at set pieces generally requires having tall, aggressive, and determined players and of course good set piece takers.
We don’t have a particularly tall side, a lot of our players lack the required aggression and determination to win headers (or to be competent footballers in general). Rashford is 6 feet tall but backs out of almost all aerial duels and even if he gets in one, he has a tap on his head and goes down crying.
Maguire is our best set piece outlet and he’s fantastic at winning headers in both boxes, unfortunately his header technique is god awful. Martinez is too small and Lindelof is a weakling. Casemiro is prettty decent at winning headers though and has scored a few for us. Hojlund and Varane seem to be much about nothing in the opposition area (good the other way).
I also don’t think we have great set piece takers. Mount is the best we have but obviously never plays. Until we actually start considering these things before signing players (obvious ETH doesn’t ) it won’t change.
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He wasn't arguably one of the best set piece coaches.
He was arguably the best possession coach particularly at patterns building from the back. Or so his former club wrote in his farewell message something along those lines.
For whatever reason we went on to sign him and assign him the role of set piece coach.
He won’t be missed. Absolutely useless. We must be one of the worst at set pieces in the league.
How much can we get for him? £5m?
If not, gardening leave for 4 years
If not, gardening leave for 4 years
what if he’s extracting the maximum from the group of players we have, and without him we concede from every set piece? remember maguire tackling shaw to allow spurs to score against us? that could be every corner without ramsey.
Basically, Ramsay was a highly rated coach at Chelsea. Ole needed a set piece coach. We wanted a coach with potential so went with Eric Ramsay who didn't specialise in set pieces. Here is what he offers:
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Ramsay’s coaching course with CV Academy focuses on how to build out from the back when under pressure. Using a combination of possession-transfer games and small-sided games, Ramsay introduces the basic concepts of build-up play when under pressure, with the aim of teaching the players how to find the spare player when in possession with an overload, how to bring the ball out with control and how to move the ball through the thirds crisply. On a loss of possession, there is also focus on reacting immediately to win the ball back as quickly as possible, with particular emphasis on the attitude and mindset necessary to do so. Switches of play also play a prominent role in the session.
As Ramsay highlights, also of paramount importance to the success of coaching this topic is the detail of passes – playing to the recipient’s front or back foot, or in front of them – as well as how to correctly receive a pass when under pressure, including correct body shape when taking the ball in. He also explains why the words ‘opposites’ is crucial in this topic: playing the ball out wide to stretch the opposition before trying to play through them or playing the ball into central areas before moving the ball to try to play around the opposition."
He's a technical coach, specialising in development of individuals and I would be fighting to keep him if he is having any part in Mainoo's development.
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Ramsay’s coaching course with CV Academy focuses on how to build out from the back when under pressure. Using a combination of possession-transfer games and small-sided games, Ramsay introduces the basic concepts of build-up play when under pressure, with the aim of teaching the players how to find the spare player when in possession with an overload, how to bring the ball out with control and how to move the ball through the thirds crisply. On a loss of possession, there is also focus on reacting immediately to win the ball back as quickly as possible, with particular emphasis on the attitude and mindset necessary to do so. Switches of play also play a prominent role in the session.
As Ramsay highlights, also of paramount importance to the success of coaching this topic is the detail of passes – playing to the recipient’s front or back foot, or in front of them – as well as how to correctly receive a pass when under pressure, including correct body shape when taking the ball in. He also explains why the words ‘opposites’ is crucial in this topic: playing the ball out wide to stretch the opposition before trying to play through them or playing the ball into central areas before moving the ball to try to play around the opposition."
He's a technical coach, specialising in development of individuals and I would be fighting to keep him if he is having any part in Mainoo's development.
Leaving Man United for the evil step brother Min United.
I almost erased that from my memory. Cheers!
What's his gardening leave?
How much compensation do we get?
Thanks
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How much compensation do we get?
Thanks
Xx
Quality control
I used to work in Minneapolis (Minnesota) in the 90’s - was a great place, although very cold in the winter, beautiful in the summer and really nice people.
Nowadays, it’s a far cry from that place. It’s more like Somalia now.
Good luck Eric.
Nowadays, it’s a far cry from that place. It’s more like Somalia now.
Good luck Eric.
Pretty weird a team coming in for a set piece coach to be there manager if you ask me. Don't think we’d miss him that much. We should get the set piece coach from Villa though, always seems to have a plan and gets up every time they have a set piece.
Yeah the Villa and Arsenal guys are quite clever. Brentford used to be too but now they seem to have dropped off.