Exactly, waste of money.
Pogba suspended for alleged anti-doping offence | Banned for 4 years
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I was going to say someone will still try to defend him, but not only are people already doing this, but someone has already started another thread specifically to do so.
Could have been an all time great if he had more than about 2 functioning brain cells - which when you look back at it now must still be sitting in Carrington somewhere.
Could have been an all time great if he had more than about 2 functioning brain cells - which when you look back at it now must still be sitting in Carrington somewhere.
Explains all his pratting about with Lingard with silly dances rather than concentrating on football.
It's over isn't it?
I don't know if firecrackers are a banned substance but that's what he needed lit up his ass.
They all have the same excuse whenever they are caught.
It would warrant a life ban had Toney participated in those games. However, on each of those occasions, he bet against his parent club (Newcastle) whilst he was out on loan elsewhere. It's not as disgraceful as the sensationalist headline would suggest.
I'd assume that there was regular testing back then.
I trully don't give much thought to doping, because sadly it's kind of bizarre to think that in almost every other sport it's massivly present but apparently in football not as much.
I wish it wasn't present, but we all know that even sometimes not wanting or not knowing, players are doped. I guess that mostly recovery type of drugs for: social ilegal use of drugs or alcohol and for a faster recovery of injuries (fitness), more than probably a lot more than enhacing ones for particular perfomance.
I think Pogba had a lot of talent, achieved a lot (no matter till what age he won titles) but indeed he could have sustain himself more time in his best level during his carreer, in any case it's mad to think that he didn't had a great carreer nonetheless.
I wish it wasn't present, but we all know that even sometimes not wanting or not knowing, players are doped. I guess that mostly recovery type of drugs for: social ilegal use of drugs or alcohol and for a faster recovery of injuries (fitness), more than probably a lot more than enhacing ones for particular perfomance.
I think Pogba had a lot of talent, achieved a lot (no matter till what age he won titles) but indeed he could have sustain himself more time in his best level during his carreer, in any case it's mad to think that he didn't had a great carreer nonetheless.
To think we offered him a contract just over 2 years ago..
Shame how it’s all turned out… but also pretty funny.
Shame how it’s all turned out… but also pretty funny.
As his former barber I saw the roid rage firsthand...
In all seriousness though, very sad end to a somewhat wasted career. Yes he underperformed for us as a whole, but he did give us (me at least) a few incredible tastes of what could have been over his time here. He was hardly one of our worst signings. I was over the moon when we signed him, and actually pretty bummed when he left again. Overall, I just always was rooting for the lad. He seemed to be genuinely liked by his teammates, had loads of talent, and basically if he just had a bit more self awareness and maturity he would probably have been an all timer. There were (admittedly too few) times you could see he went into "all-out" mode and he was an absolute joy to watch.
I don't think I've ever been more torn over a player that I simply liked more than I should have based on his actual production...but he was a classic example. I have no ill will towards the man, and just hope he was good with saving his money because I see a tough road ahead for him after football...
In all seriousness though, very sad end to a somewhat wasted career. Yes he underperformed for us as a whole, but he did give us (me at least) a few incredible tastes of what could have been over his time here. He was hardly one of our worst signings. I was over the moon when we signed him, and actually pretty bummed when he left again. Overall, I just always was rooting for the lad. He seemed to be genuinely liked by his teammates, had loads of talent, and basically if he just had a bit more self awareness and maturity he would probably have been an all timer. There were (admittedly too few) times you could see he went into "all-out" mode and he was an absolute joy to watch.
I don't think I've ever been more torn over a player that I simply liked more than I should have based on his actual production...but he was a classic example. I have no ill will towards the man, and just hope he was good with saving his money because I see a tough road ahead for him after football...
On a side note...his injury history is a classic example of testosterone use. It's unfair to assume this, but reading the tea leaves a ton of these athletes get on testosterone to actually heal injuries quicker. It's a common misconception that steroids are only used to bulk up for athletes. They then get into a cycle of basically getting injured more because of the byproduct of the unnaturally fast "healing" process and secondary effects of the steroids...which then leads to taking more testosterone to try and heal those injuries faster. It's almost like a cocaine addition. Pogba's late career is a textbook example of this...
I think I remember you mate, do you still have that pic of you and Paul together up in your shop?
That's his career done surely ? He's 30. If I were him I would retire.
What a shambolic end to a player's career. He'll be remembered for this only now.
What a shambolic end to a player's career. He'll be remembered for this only now.
What made him special was his rare combination of physical strength and stamina with brilliant technique. He had the potential to become a much better version of Vieira, maybe even reach Rijkaard's level.
Has anyone said Pogban yet?
A generational talent, and he ended up barely playing anymore after the age of... what, 27 or 28? Two or three years of non-stop injuries and then a four-year ban that will surely spell the end of his career. What a waste; and while I can't sit here and say that I think his injury troubles were all fake or self-inflicted or whatever, there always was a feeling that he wasn't doing everything he could to be available. Going against the club's medical advice, fecking off to Miami and Dubai to lounge around, an uncanny tendency to get these injuries at times when the weather in England happens to be bad, and evidently doping up. I have a strong hunch that if he had been more professional and grounded, things would have gone much better for him.
I think thats the thing people need to reference when its said he has wasted his career. Yes he has some great titles and achievements (more than most footballers) but he should have been a generational talent. He had all the natural ability and skills for this but ultimately poor decisions, bad timing (as with anything in life), injuries and (in my opinion) his football intelligence and maturity never matching or maturing at the same rate as his talent means to me it is a wasted career, maybe all this might have clicked in the last few years if he had been fit but then again maybe it just was never going to. He had everything in his locker to have been one of the all time mids, its sad really but hard to feel too sad for him as he did play a part in it himself.
Completed football? What?
Considering he spent most of his career in England, not winning the domestic title, main domestic cup, or the champions league means this isn’t true.
Generational talent is a pretty vague word but I think people focus too much on technical and physical aspects. The very best talemts combine outstanding technique with outstanding awareness, reactions, inventiveness, decision making etc. Pogba wasn't bad at that but far from elite.
Anyway, it is sad to see his career fade like this. He was a player that could get you off your seat
Anyway, it is sad to see his career fade like this. He was a player that could get you off your seat
His appeal will make it 6months, don't think its over for him. that's how it works
He doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who looked after his money and can easily retire at age 30.
I think this is the fairest assessment.
I always thought he would have been a better player if he bothered to take the deeper role more seriously, and learnt how to dictate play for them. He had the long range passing and physical attributes, and he would find more space there, instead of struggling when pressed/tight areas. I think he just wanted to be where the goals were.
Who knows? It's entirely possible that he was trying to accelerate his rehab and got caught, tale as old as time.
Like it missed anyone’s attention that his body started breaking down two years at least before he left. Their were people like myself who appreciated Pogba as a player who didn’t want us to give him another contract, we’re happy for him to leave because he looked like he couldn’t run and get around the pitch anymore, he never seemed to fully get over the affects of Covid either together with injuries.Id be surprised if a single United fan thought, based on his last two seasons ‘I bet he has an amazing next few years’. Least of all you. As was ever the case with this player you’ve attempted to rewrite history based on your weird hatred, borderline obsession that makes you demonstrably an utter hypocrite regarding him.
I imagine if I look in the thread announcing him leaving I won’t find your posts stating how big of a success you expect him to be? Weird.
So do juventus still have to pay him or will his contract be void now?
I looked at stats and worked everything out a while back. He started something like 92% of games he was available for over his entire time here. Including his falling out with Jose and returns from injuries, there were very few games he wasn’t picked for.He left at the end of his contract and we rightly didn’t offer him a new one based on his injuries and how his body was struggling to recover over his last 18 months at the club.
Another one trying to rewrite history
Depends if they gave him the dope
I'm finding hard to believe that we've come out well in a transfer/contract situation.
Yes he was a World Cup winner, but he could’ve been so much more. Instead chose to prat around.
4 years is crazy. Was he deliberately doping?
Anyways. Wasted potential. Our incompetency had something to do with that but he also had a big part to do with it too. It always felt like football was the side gig for him and not the main thing.
Anyways. Wasted potential. Our incompetency had something to do with that but he also had a big part to do with it too. It always felt like football was the side gig for him and not the main thing.
This is ridiculous! No player has ever got 4 years ban, are they taking the piss? Mutu, Edgar Davis, Ferdinand etc never got 4 years. This is absolutely nonsense. I sense Juventus having a hand in it to get out of the contract.
4 years does seem ridiculously harsh.
No it doesn't. I still don't get why dancing is apparently some kind of cardinal sin for a footballer by some reactionary fans. Hasn't practically every Brazilian and African player ever done it on the pitch? Or do people think he's spending 6 hours a day on the choreography?
At least the clowns in charge back then apparently had some kind of standard they wouldn't go below.
Pretty standard anti-doping ban considering no admittance of guilt and no other factors.
Ye it’s traditional for Brazilians and Africans. My point is Pogba cared about literally anything other than what his actual job was. To play football. Guys a fraud. We’ve been done over twice with him. Not worth a mention. Let him go to sign him for a record to then let him go again for free.
Pogba?
Pogback?
Pogbanned.
Pogback?
Pogbanned.
What a bellend
Never had time for him. Represents many of the problems with modern football.