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Chubb insurance helping out a dick shouldnt be a surprise. From flaccid to chubb.
 

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Chubb insurance helping out a dick shouldnt be a surprise. From flaccid to chubb.
I think the 10% fee might have something to do with it, has nothing to do with helping out and more to do with taking a small risk for $8 million or so
 

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Primary winners receive intel briefings.
Considering that 1) the Trump administration consistently delayed access to classified briefings for Biden during the post-election transition and that 2) Trump is currently indicted under the Espionage Act, I think it would not be too much for the Biden administration to repay the 2020-21 shenanigans by granting Trump very limited access to intel briefings.
 

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Considering that 1) the Trump administration consistently delayed access to classified briefings for Biden during the post-election transition and that 2) Trump is currently indicted under the Espionage Act, I think it would not be too much for the Biden administration to repay the 2020-21 shenanigans by granting Trump very limited access to intel briefings.
Can the admin arbitrarily do such?
 

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So if you create a random party and you win your primaries you get to be in the briefings?
I doubt it, there'll be some kind of criteria, and it isn't the same briefing the actual President gets
 

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Ok. So is not mandatory. I would definitely not give it to trump
 

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Ok. So is not mandatory. I would definitely not give it to trump
Unfortunately that would just feed more into his "deep state" conspiracy. Think the play is to give it but greatly limit the details.
 

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Unfortunately that would just feed more into his "deep state" conspiracy. Think the play is to give it but greatly limit the details.
Sure, but if i would be biden and i would care of the US, i would prevent, delay and also low level clearance as much as possible. Specially when trump did something similar
 

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I think if he complains you make a big song and dance about him literally being under investigation of being incapable of handling sensitive documents, and wrap in the crazy judge and all his delaying tactics. Frame it as if he wants this, he can speed up the trial anytime he wants and prove his innocence.
 

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Unfortunately that would just feed more into his "deep state" conspiracy. Think the play is to give it but greatly limit the details.
Everything feeds into these conspiracies. It doesn’t matter. These people don’t share reality with us. They live in a different one anyway. So I don’t think we should care too much about them.
 

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Everything feeds into these conspiracies. It doesn’t matter. These people don’t share reality with us. They live in a different one anyway. So I don’t think we should care too much about them.
Unfortunately it does matter because significant numbers of people who vote do believe it
 

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Unfortunately it does matter because significant numbers of people who vote do believe it
I mean that it doesn’t matter that it feeds into these conspiracy theories, because if we were careful not to, they just invent something leading to the same conclusion anyway. They will believe these theories no matter what we do. So we shouldn’t let our actions be influenced by all this.
 

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I mean that it doesn’t matter that it feeds into these conspiracy theories, because if we were careful not to, they just invent something leading to the same conclusion anyway. They will believe these theories no matter what we do. So we shouldn’t let our actions be influenced by all this.
Some people do change their minds though, always best to avoid fuelling the fire if you can.
 

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Some people do change their minds though, always best to avoid fuelling the fire if you can.
They are few, though. So if we have ways to decrease the damage done by Trump, I believe we need to utilise them, instead of trying to appease a cult.
 

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They are few, though. So if we have ways to decrease the damage done by Trump, I believe we need to utilise them, instead of trying to appease a cult.
Feeding him low level and/or wrong information would do exactly that though.
 

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They are few, though. So if we have ways to decrease the damage done by Trump, I believe we need to utilise them, instead of trying to appease a cult.
Those few are enough to tip an election one way or the other
 

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"George Slopanopoulos" :lol:

Tens of millions of people will vote for this guy. We're almost a decade into this nonsense, and it's still hard to fathom how far America has fallen.
 

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Oh man, that's just beautiful. You know Donny was up all night fuming about that. All those lovely rich, influential, beautiful people laughing at him.
And you just know the MAGAs will see it as reinforcement for their conspiracies, ‘look how all those Hollywood liberal pedo satanic follower baby eating elites all hate Trump’.

We’ve said it enough times but America is fvcked. As long as a third of the population don’t deal in facts but ‘personal truths’, you will get the likes of Trump in office, more and more of them, it’s a matter of when, not if.
 

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And you just know the MAGAs will see it as reinforcement for their conspiracies, ‘look how all those Hollywood liberal pedo satanic follower baby eating elites all hate Trump’.

We’ve said it enough times but America is fvcked. As long as a third of the population don’t deal in facts but ‘personal truths’, you will get the likes of Trump in office, more and more of them, it’s a matter of when, not if.
Yeah, but you still need one singular character to unite them. I'm not convinced it's going to be that easy to find the "next Trump". It needs to be someone with his weird brand of charisma and charm, and I don't see who has it. Also, these people are all narcissistic ego-maniacs, so there will be some kind of fight to be the new alpha.
 

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Yeah, but you still need one singular character to unite them. I'm not convinced it's going to be that easy to find the "next Trump". It needs to be someone with his weird brand of charisma and charm, and I don't see who has it. Also, these people are all narcissistic ego-maniacs, so there will be some kind of fight to be the new alpha.
The crazies have taken over the asylum though, wasn’t that long ago Sarah Palin was seen as the worst they could’ve sunk to, now you get MTG, Bobo, this Mark Robinson guy in NC, a religious nút as Speaker, the creepy ‘rising star/future of GOP/America’s mom’ from Alabama, the Overton window just keep on shifting and the GOP rank and file keeps getting worse, so yes there will be infighting among them, but whoever gets chosen would still end up batshit crazy, and the unifier in an election year will always be ‘a dead dog is better than a Democrat'.
 

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The crazies have taken over the asylum though, wasn’t that long ago Sarah Palin was seen as the worst they could’ve sunk to, now you get MTG, Bobo, this Mark Robinson guy in NC, a religious nút as Speaker, the creepy ‘rising star/future of GOP/America’s mom’ from Alabama, the Overton window just keep on shifting and the GOP rank and file keeps getting worse, so yes there will be infighting among them, but whoever gets chosen would still end up batshit crazy.
There are plenty of crazies of course, but which one of them can gather crowds all over the country like Trump did in 2015 and 2016?
 

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There are plenty of crazies of course, but which one of them can gather crowds all over the country like Trump did in 2015 and 2016?
They will find someone. Or a new, even crazier cult will begin and it will start all over again. Palin was essentially the beginning of the resurgence of the Tea Party alongside Ron Paul, that absolute fruitcake Michelle Bachmann and the likes of Glenn Beck & his chalkboard over on Fox News. They did exactly the same thing, started in opposition to Obama and filled the ranks with mainly white male politicians. The Tea Party members and followers were nearly all born again Christians and against gay marriage, very pro 2nd amendment and climate change deniers.

MAGA is the same, started by Trump and his followers. The big difference this time though is that the MAGA lot aren't crazy enough so Q started. They are on another fecking level of insanity. They truly believe the Hollywood elite are all responsible for global paedophile rings & child trafficking around the world and do it to obtain a drug from the kids brains, adrenochrome, which they then drink or inject to get life prolonging benefits and other shit depending on who you listen to.

Q also believe (and this one really makes no sense at all) that Trump actually won the last election and is still in power leading from behind the scenes.

Then you have the Proud Boys, who both MAGA & Q both say are not real and are all actually Federal Agents who work for the FBI and paid to march and make Trump followers look bad.

They all fight & argue between themselves online all the time, but come voting they will all unite and vote for their leader Trump.

The point I'm trying to make is that this section of people are all similar in the fact they call themselves Patriots. They are all scared about immigration, equality & big government and all are frightened of losing their perceived grip on the USA. I also firmly believe a very large percentage are not only incredibly poorly educated, but also suffering from mental illnesses.

That's not going to change anytime soon, in fact it looks like it will only continue to get much worse, even after Trump goes. It won't take much for someone to see the void and take his place. We all know Trump couldn't give a fecking shit about any of them, he only wants their adulation to feed his own ego. What is worrying is that the next one might actually be a true believer and genuinely care about them all and I think that is potentially far more dangerous.
 

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There are plenty of crazies of course, but which one of them can gather crowds all over the country like Trump did in 2015 and 2016?
Trump never won the popular vote, even percentage wise he did worse than Romney, I don’t think crowds matter that much, he wasn’t a popular/liked politician then and isn’t now, problem is in this current climate you can have historically low favourable and still win because tribalism trumps everything (pun intended).
 

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For all his faults, I don’t think he is on the powder. He famously doesn’t even drink.
That's been proved to be a lie too. He claims he's never touched alcohol but there are plenty of pictures showing he has and people who say he has. Although he's definitely not a big drinker and probably hardly ever does, but to say he's never touched it is pure bollocks.

I also don't think he's on the bag either, he doesn't have the jumpy jitterishness of a coke head, whereas Don Jr absofeckinglutely does. I do however think he's on other things like Adderall and the like.