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City and Financial Doping | Charged by PL with numerous FFP breaches
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I doubt we will hear anything before the season ends. The charges brought basically can be boiled down into accusations that the City owners lied and cheated. This is difficult to prove especially as so far CIty have resisted any demands to provide the PL with detailed information on sponsorship deals, related party transactions etc.There is, of course, the political difficulties of accusing UAE government heads (e.g. Sheik Mansour) of being complicit in fraudulent transactions. However, if the PL can prove the allegations, the punishment will be severe, at least relegation and possibly more than one division. If they are found guilty, i wont weep for them, they‘ll deserve whatever punishment is imposed upon them.
So on the Everton example, City are only getting 690 points deducted?
What tier does that put them?
What tier does that put them?
any link to this? surely he'd be some sort of witness?
There'll be nothing said, and nothing done. They're about to let city win their 5th title in 6 years, destroying the league while pulling the FAs pants down. Its in their interest to say its all above board and what a great team they are.
Ah they'll get a slap from the FA and 100quid fine
Spotify pay €5m for Nou Camp rights which is part of an overall €60-70m per year sponsorship deal that is primarily a shirt and training kit deal.
Supposedly, the Etihad naming rights number is closer to €20-25m but still comical how City believe they can get away with all this blatant fraud, but wouldn't surprise me if they do.
https://www.sportspromedia.com/insi...amp-nou-stadium-daniel-ek-joan-laporta-worth/
https://www.sportspromedia.com/news/premier-league-stadium-naming-rights-values/
Confirms my profoundly stereotyped bias of American owners/directors getting rich of sports businesses whilst State owned clubs are just PR vehicles paid for by the state monopoly in question.
They have a few however will they testify, I highly doubt they will, Howson has a player for his mob that apparently City offers. Copious bags of cash to him and his family and got paid cash weekly as an apprentice!
When the new Camp Nou is finished Spotify will pay 15 per season I think I remember.
Yet you'll have the usual suspects coming to tell you there's no such thing as sports washing.
Chelsea's directors wage bill is ridiculous but of course directors should get a remuneration. This is silly.
Of course. Every cost possible is pushed into the parent company, City Football Group which, conveniently, is not subject to FFP or PSR.
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Ian Wright will be silenced in due course.
Nice knowing you Wrighty! Sky happy as long as it’s bringing them the bacon. If they dare take it all elsewhere then you having them kicking up a fuss a la the super league.
The overlap income has sorted him out, that might be the first time I’ve heard a pundit mention the 115 specifically outside of people talking about it when it was announced. I thought he was going to bring up Oliver and UAE links, what a hero he would have been.
Good on him for bringing it up, but even there he's being very careful about what he says. It's been cringeworthy watching the extent to which football people on TV, Radio even Podcasts will contort themselves to avoid the topic. I'm skeptical as to whether they'll ever face any sufficient punishment but man if they do, I'll be breaking out the special champagne.
He mentions the charges as though they're an affront to city, rather than a serious indication of systematic fraud.
'Oh get the charges out of the way and all is good'
Not so.
If the City charges aren’t dealt with adequately, then there is going to be a major backlash against the premier league.
There’s too much smoke AND fire AND evidence that City have taken the absolute mickey out of fair play and rules.
Why should everyone else try to abide by the rules if City can just blatantly disregard them?
Why should Everton get badly punished for 1 breach and City not get 115 times that?
This shows to me how City have bullied and/or bribed everyone to oblivion - Wright has to tiptoe around the topic.
Also, "there has been a date set but we don't know what that date is..." Why? Seems bizrate. Or is it just more shadiness coming from sports' most cheating club?
Exactly. City have bullied and bribed the industry into submission. If they get away with it, that's me done with the sport (in the UK).
Or is it more out of fear of saying something that'll cause their lawyers grief?
That's a very reasonable number considering the history and the club. Etihad naming rights amount is obvious bullshit fraud.
Yeah, he danced around it.
Also, the graphic behind his head makes it look like he's got a dunce or wizard hat on.
Heard something about the financial rules being scrapped soon?
That’ll be city off with it so.
That’ll be city off with it so.
Fraud?
It's a little difficult to determine what you are saying, are you saying they are pretending they are getting more money from Spotify than they are? If so they would be caught very quickly.
Still not a strong enough criticism from Wright. The pundits are cowards, call it how it is, a nothing football club in city rises to the top because of financial doping and fraud. I wish all the pundits that glossed over this get their pants fully pulled down in public when the FA hands down its punishment.
That makes more sense. I don’t think you could sponsor a better club than Barcelona even if they aren’t that good right now. Tourists love their stadium more than anyone else’s on the planet.
Hence why I think they always bring in the most commercial money always have in the past 2 decades I imagine.
Maybe but you can’t just come out and bury a club live on air as a pundit.
City are owned by very powerful people who are ingrained in the highest levels of football…
Ian Wright also has to put food on his families table for years to come in the same industry.
He’s not the guy whose job it is. It’s the courts. After a guilty verdict 100% pile on but City’s lawyers can destroy you if you say the truth and they are found innocent in court.
It’s an immediate case against him as City basically have unlimited money for lawyers. He doesn’t.
The world isn’t simple when you’re dealing with entities like City who we all assume are corrupt.
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He mentions like someone who knows he could get himself blacklisted for speaking the truth so has to be very measured in what he says and how he says it.
He's done something there nobody else who values their punditry career dares do. The fallout from this will be interesting.
First thing I saw too
From a 2023 article:"Shaun Wright-Phillips, 41, who now works as a club ambassador at the Etihad Stadium"
If his son is still employed by City it could also be a reason why he doesn't go all out...
If his son is still employed by City it could also be a reason why he doesn't go all out...
Funny some of you making City out like the Khmer Rouge. Wright and his family are just going to disappear without a trace for casually bringing up what’s been a major topic of open discussion.
There will be a major backlash on Redcafe, RAWK amd r/soccer if City gets away with it. People who run clubs don't give a sh!t.
I doubt it will.
He's danced around it. Fair enough, he's acknowledged it but only in the sense we 'need' to 'move on' from it.
Wright's son is employed by city, remember.
city's owners are an actual dictatorship. nowhere near as bad as the khmer rouge, but absolutely the type of brutal thugs fully capable of 'disappearing' its dissidents.
Shamefully, some amongst our own club was willing to embrace, and excuse, a similar structure as the corrupting influence of 'football comes first' reigns.
Sportswashing doing its job.
Me mentioned it, but I'm pretty sure that's all he can do. I would imagine that like any ongoing investigation or legal process they are restricted as to what they can and can't say publicly on live TV, there's probably teams of lawyers ready to pounce on anyone who dares even talk about it at length.
Can't believe the BS Wright is getting for not being strong enough. Being a hero to forum posters doesn't put food on the table. Wright has done something that no other pundit has done. I'd have thought he'd deserve credit for that.
I don’t know how anyone expects him to outright accuse City of cheating. Are you going to pay his litigation fees if City come after him? City haven’t been found guilty of anything.He has to be careful.
Huh? If anything, the Spotify naming rights are under market value.