You’re just making shit up now. Which is ironic, seeing as you’re positioning yourself as a lone voice of rationality here. Re-read the first page. Literally nobody states the false flag stuff as certainty. It’s all speculation. And it’s pushed back on immediately.
Terror attack in Moscow music hall | Do not post shooting videos or dead bodies
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Its every second comment on twitter "israel/mossad somehow did this. Why dont Isis ever attack Israel?".
He’s also an idiot & not quite 100% honest poster as I unfortunately had to experience.
So glad I deleted that stupid app.
Feckin ell stop it all this bullshit!
Reading around on Reddit etc (I know, I know) speculation is still rife that this attack is a false flag, designed and carried out by Russia to tighten support for further mobilisation and an escalation of action in Ukraine, likely as well pinning blame on their collaboration with the west.
The attack in context just makes no sense to me.
Surely, given recent events, a false flag of that nature wouldn't involve a group of armed gunmen storming a theatre in this way, in an attack that carries all the hallmarks of an ISIS style terror attack we've seen before?
Surely a false flag would rather be an escalation of what we've seen before, i.e. missile, bombings or drone attacks on targets inside the russian border, potentially inside Moscow. That would be much easier to fabricate and blame on Ukraine and as a result the West.
This is a tricky storm for Putin to navigate that's for sure. How he plays this is going to tell us a lot.
The attack in context just makes no sense to me.
Surely, given recent events, a false flag of that nature wouldn't involve a group of armed gunmen storming a theatre in this way, in an attack that carries all the hallmarks of an ISIS style terror attack we've seen before?
Surely a false flag would rather be an escalation of what we've seen before, i.e. missile, bombings or drone attacks on targets inside the russian border, potentially inside Moscow. That would be much easier to fabricate and blame on Ukraine and as a result the West.
This is a tricky storm for Putin to navigate that's for sure. How he plays this is going to tell us a lot.
fecking hell. In comparison, the attack on the Bataclan (Paris) in 2015 cost 90 lives out of the total number of 130 civilians killed on that day.
I didn’t mention America or England in any of my posts?
You’ve got a weird chip on your shoulder about someone saying the Russian regime are bad guys.
I don’t know if you’re trying to make a wider point about democracy versus dictatorship, East vs West, whatever….you’ve run round the houses in a few posts on it now so I’ll say it plainly and let’s have done with it:
Putin is a prat, has a long history of being a prat, is being a prat at present and will probably be a prat in the future. You can’t be surprised when people associate him with pratishness.
Thankyou, some semblance of sanity has entered the room
more obvious answer would be their sources/work against ISIS directly
in terms of why they warned Russia. Aside from the standard, it could also have been to get ahead of the game with regard to any Russian rhetoric of trying to blame Ukraine and/or the West for the attack.
I didn't say you did but you used the term good guys so was just curious who are the good guys according to you?
Toolshed used the term good guys so take up your first point with him. As to your second point how recent are we going? Is Iraq and Afghanistan part 2 included or we going back to part 1? Is the support for what Israel is doing recent enough?
I agree with your points generally and yes a lot of the discussion here is probably meant for the general CE thread.
After re-reading the first page, yeah I admit that I went overboard when saying that there was no doubt in their posts. I guess I was just irked by the speculations while people were dying.
No, I don't. Putin is a bad guy. A very bad one.
I'm not and that's not the point I'm trying to make.
My quote was not about why US warned Russia
My quote is about a poster that said that maybe the US found the information within their FSB informants.....And then proceed to inform the FSB. What it doesn't make sense because if the FSB already knew as the US took the information from them why re inform them back
According to FSB they where trying to cross the Ukrainian border and had contacts within Ukraine. It might have been a ISIS attack but we all know how the Russian propaganda machine will spin it.
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Ha.I see it from three very different accounts. I just think anti-zionism is becoming mainstream. That will include loads of crazy theories, and we are seeing judaism already being conflated with zionism.
I said (specifically referring to the Russian regime) do you think they’re good guys?
If you’re digging for me to say that the West are the good guys so you can clobber me with Iraq, Afghanistan etc etc then I’ll have to disappoint you. The west do plenty wrong and their motives for involvement have been rightly questioned. That being said, none of it compares to Putin’s “denazification of Ukraine” bullshit (to bring us back to the original topic)
Sound, let’s leave it, life’s too short
wtf? please elaborate when dishing out these insults.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...est-moscow-massacre-crocus-concert-death.html
Daily Fail has named the suspects which it says include the 11 arrested individuals
Daily Fail has named the suspects which it says include the 11 arrested individuals
I'm not diggin for anything. I asked you a few questions, no need to imagine my motives.
Amazing they managed to arrest them all so quickly and with no deaths involved for them. Miraculous almost.
You don’t want to out the informants do you?
New number: 150 killed.
I don't have any knowledge that makes me believe it is so but it isn't far fetched to think parts of FSB might know something and that that information doesn't reach the relevant people at the top of FSB because of the nature of the organisation. Wouldn't be unthinkable in any intelligence service, and especially not in the security services of a failing nation.
Is this some degree of dog whistling or just a really poorly articulated post?
How are you "astounded"? The main questions on people minds when ever anything like this happens is whodunnit and why. Putin has previous so of course its part of the speculation.
Good job I never said the attack was funny then isn't it?
Russia is releasing footage of initial interrogations with the shooters. They seem to be saying they all done it for cash offered by some preacher on telegram...
Something stinks about this for sure.
Amazed they let themselves be captured. Now they can look forward to the rest of their lives being raped and tortured in a Russian prison.
I find these statements extraordinary. As if the "global south" and "wretched of the earth" had a united position formulated in a St.Petersburg office.
I don't know.....
Oh dear...
Got to love the whataboutism in this thread to defend Putin of all people 
Yeah, like people who just murdered 100+ people would be captured like that.
Yeah at least they could have pretended they were on a manhunt for a little while. This whole thing reeks.
You're not alone thinking this. I expected far more resistance from those alleged shooters instead of being arrested so easily.
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Regardless of whether this is real or not, interviewing a suspected terrorist and immediately posting it to social media is an interesting approach.
Interesting is one word for it. No interest at all in due process. Says it all about the state of Russia under Putin.
Yeah… heavily armed men aren’t going down without a fight. They probably wouldn’t spill all their plans and motives instantly either. I guess this was all an inside job after all.
What's that 5000 euro? None of this makes any sense.
Even if it was for money, they didn't try to conceal their identities at all. How the feck would you think you could get away with it?