Ralf Rangnick | Austria manager

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A week ago, Rangnick had pleaded for apolitical soccer: "Football must try to stay out of political positions. Soccer should remain aware of this function; this includes taking on an apolitical role," Rangnick had said. And when asked whether he could imagine his newly elected quartet of captains wearing a rainbow-colored armband as a symbol of diversity, the 60-year-old replied with little sensitivity or reflection: "We won't be harnessed to any cart."

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I don't deny he recommended him. But he probably recommended 20 more players. I m also sure he definitely didn't recommend his a world class talent. Ole was here as a manager when Haaland was transferred twice (first time he was an interim indeed). Ole has proved as a manager that he is not really good at spotting any talent, so why would he understand that Haaland was a better player than Diouf?
So it turned out that he not only recommended him but he also begged for them to buy him when he was United manager. Twice United made a mistake not ole
 

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So it turned out that he not only recommended him but he also begged for them to buy him when he was United manager. Twice United made a mistake not ole
That post is also the second time I've seen someone claim that Solskjaer was essentially just ringing up United every other week to recommend a Molde player to us. He'd have absolutely no reason to do that unless he believed them to be supremely talented, which Haaland obviously was.
 

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That post is also the second time I've seen someone claim that Solskjaer was essentially just ringing up United every other week to recommend a Molde player to us. He'd have absolutely no reason to do that unless he believed them to be supremely talented, which Haaland obviously was.
Ole gets blamed for a lot, unfairly in this case
 

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A week ago, Rangnick had pleaded for apolitical soccer: "Football must try to stay out of political positions. Soccer should remain aware of this function; this includes taking on an apolitical role," Rangnick had said. And when asked whether he could imagine his newly elected quartet of captains wearing a rainbow-colored armband as a symbol of diversity, the 60-year-old replied with little sensitivity or reflection: "We won't be harnessed to any cart."

https://rblive.de/news/auf-dem-rech...rt-aussagen-ueber-politik-im-fussball-3303675
For what it’s worth that’s from five years ago, though it’s not really surprising that the dinosaur also holds outdated social views. That said, his social commentary isn't any worse than his football mind. What a weird and forgettable period it was with him in charge.
 

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Rangnick voiced his opinion against dragging teams in political discussions, things like wearing a rainbow armband for the captain. He never said anything against supporting human rights etc as such, it was only against taking part of political campaigns.

Or in other words, he always wanted his players to be decent human beings instead of homophobic c*nts or similar, he simply didn't want them to be distracted from playing by campaigning for such stuff while on the pitch. Not inviting such players as now fits perfectly what he always said.

But then... "Dortmund fan dislikes former Schalke manager" is about as much news as "rain is wet" or "at night it's dark" :lol:
 

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Kicker (reputable German football news) report that he is Bayern's second choice behind Alonso to become their next manager.

Which is interesting as it always appeared like his personality would inevitable lead to trouble with the old Bayern leadership. Maybe with Hainer, Eberl and Freund there really is a difference to the days of Rummenigge and Hoeneß.
 

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I don't know... He certainly has experience and all, but i feel he lacks the kind of success at the highest stages as either coach or player that would give him the necessary authority at Bayern.
 

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FC Bayern is now in actual negotiations with Ralf Rangnick. He is to become the new coach - Plan C after the rejections of Xabi Alonso and Julian Nagelsmann. Roberto de Zerbi, on the other hand, remains only an outside candidate.
 

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FC Bayern is now in actual negotiations with Ralf Rangnick. He is to become the new coach - Plan C after the rejections of Xabi Alonso and Julian Nagelsmann. Roberto de Zerbi, on the other hand, remains only an outside candidate.
Who is Bayern DoF? Imagine they might do what we did but with an actual DoF role once they find their top choice?
 

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Who is Bayern DoF? Imagine they might do what we did but with an actual DoF role once they find their top choice?
They just signed Max Eberl and under him have Christoph Freund as sporting director. The DoF role is settled. The search for the new manager is Eberl's first big task.

Apparently complicated by the fact that the old guard (Rummenigge/Hoeneß) still is influential and that there seems to be a rift between them. There are a lot of different rumours coming from Munich which either means the media have no clue what is going on, or that all the reports are actually true and different people at the club favour different managers.
 

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They just signed Max Eberl and under him have Christoph Freund as sporting director. The DoF role is settled. The search for the new manager is Eberl's first big task.

Apparently complicated by the fact that the old guard (Rummenigge/Hoeneß) still is influential and that there seems to be a rift between them. There are a lot of different rumours coming from Munich which either means the media have no clue what is going on, or that all the reports are actually true and different people at the club favour different managers.
I was wondering if Eberl vs Rumminigge/Hoeness is what's driving this. Seems an odd rumour.
 

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Actually it seems to be more of Rummenigge vs Hoeneß.
The old warriors. I do feel, as someone who hasn't paid too much attention to Bayern admittedly, that it's not good to have such old heads running the show who probably think they know best. Weren't there rumours of Flick, Nagelsmann, Tuchel etc. getting frustrated with the senior leadership?
 

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The old warriors. I do feel, as someone who hasn't paid too much attention to Bayern admittedly, that it's not good to have such old heads running the show who probably think they know best. Weren't there rumours of Flick, Nagelsmann, Tuchel etc. getting frustrated with the senior leadership?
Flick definitely had a fallout with Salihamidzic (Eberl's predecessor), who was always seen as kind of Hoeneß puppet.
I'm not sure about Nagelsmann, but I think there were reports before he was signed that parts of Bayern's board (Rummenigge?) would have preferred Tuchel instead of Nagelsmann. When things went south under Nagelsmann obviously the pressure internally increased to "fix that mistake" and they replaced him with Tuchel... which didn't work great as we all know. As that happened they sacked their CEO (Kahn) and DoF (Salihamidzic) right before the last matchday of last season - Kahn apparently took it so badly that they forbid him to join the title celebrations. So they went into the transfer summer with a makeshift board that failed to do the transfer business as Tuchel would have liked (which apparently was also in line with what Nagelsmann before had identified as issues before he was sacked). As a result of that they also sacked their technical director (Neppe) who apparently proved to be not that good at making transfer deals as hoped.

Nonetheless the new CEO (Dreesen) demanded from Tuchel to stop complaining about the (too small) squad and find solutions (as "that's what he is paid for") and as we all know decided to sack him - just a week before Eberl started as a DoF. Why wait for football people to take this decision, if you are the CEO, right?

So as it looks like now Eberl has to find a successor for a manager he probably wouldn't have fired as he most likely actually agrees a lot on Tuchel's view on the squad and it's weaknesses, but instead of preparing to fix those squad issues he has to run around Europe and find a new manager, which after what has happened there recently doesn't seem to be the most wanted job around.

Back to Rangnick, he likely is an idea supported by the "Rummenigge camp" as Hoeneß had publicly picked fights with Rangnick (and vice versa) during the last decades.
 

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The old warriors. I do feel, as someone who hasn't paid too much attention to Bayern admittedly, that it's not good to have such old heads running the show who probably think they know best. Weren't there rumours of Flick, Nagelsmann, Tuchel etc. getting frustrated with the senior leadership?
They're winning 11 trot. It's just a blip to lose one season. They're doing a great job dont you think?
 

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Flick definitely had a fallout with Salihamidzic (Eberl's predecessor), who was always seen as kind of Hoeneß puppet.
I'm not sure about Nagelsmann, but I think there were reports before he was signed that parts of Bayern's board (Rummenigge?) would have preferred Tuchel instead of Nagelsmann. When things went south under Nagelsmann obviously the pressure internally increased to "fix that mistake" and they replaced him with Tuchel... which didn't work great as we all know. As that happened they sacked their CEO (Kahn) and DoF (Salihamidzic) right before the last matchday of last season - Kahn apparently took it so badly that they forbid him to join the title celebrations. So they went into the transfer summer with a makeshift board that failed to do the transfer business as Tuchel would have liked (which apparently was also in line with what Nagelsmann before had identified as issues before he was sacked). As a result of that they also sacked their technical director (Neppe) who apparently proved to be not that good at making transfer deals as hoped.

Nonetheless the new CEO (Dreesen) demanded from Tuchel to stop complaining about the (too small) squad and find solutions (as "that's what he is paid for") and as we all know decided to sack him - just a week before Eberl started as a DoF. Why wait for football people to take this decision, if you are the CEO, right?

So as it looks like now Eberl has to find a successor for a manager he probably wouldn't have fired as he most likely actually agrees a lot on Tuchel's view on the squad and it's weaknesses, but instead of preparing to fix those squad issues he has to run around Europe and find a new manager, which after what has happened there recently doesn't seem to be the most wanted job around.

Back to Rangnick, he likely is an idea supported by the "Rummenigge camp" as Hoeneß had publicly picked fights with Rangnick (and vice versa) during the last decades.
V interesting thanks, sounds like one of the old heads will win out and then the other might leave.