Premier League Gameweek 30-32

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For me, Rodri is better now than Busquets ever was. Gonna be considered one of the best ever defensive mids.
They are very different.

I think Busquets was technically better (and cleverer) but Rodri has the physical edge and goal threat too.
 

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Difference is, Busquets won stuff on the international stage, too. To be fair, Rodri did win the Nations League but its not exactly the Euro's or the World Cup.

You could; however, argue that Rodri hasn't got the quality Busquets had around him back then.

Ultimately, I think that's how they (fans) could potentially differentiate between the two.
Not really, since the difference in the two Spanish up to this point, so 50 caps is it for Rodri?, is remarkably different. Maybe Spain can turn into something over time, but I struggle to believe they'll rebuild that level of depth any time soon. But a starting XI of high quality is definitely possible, so Rodri may have his window yet.
 

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Who the fecks Sergio Gomez?

Is this what rival fans felt when we’d win titles with Chris Eagles and Macheda?
 

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They are very different.

I think Busquets was technically better (and cleverer) but Rodri has the physical edge and goal threat too.
Rodri is pretty technically superb as well, while having those attributes. The way he schemes around the pitch is like Busquets except quicker and fewer weaknesses in my opinion.

Difference is, Busquets won stuff on the international stage, too. To be fair, Rodri did win the Nations League but its not exactly the Euro's or the World Cup.

You could; however, argue that Rodri hasn't got the quality Busquets had around him back then.

Ultimately, I think that's how they (fans) could potentially differentiate between the two.
Busquets couldn't win any of the big international tournaments without Xavi or Iniesta. His last big win was the Champions League in 2015 when he was 26, while he played a part in Barcelona being overran against PSG, Roma and Liverpool in big games without the other two. Put Rodri in with those two and they're even better. But in terms of being remembered, yes it's true. Rodri is 27 though, you could probably see Spain have a chance to win one of their next three tournaments with the talent they have.
 

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Rodri is pretty technically superb as well, while having those attributes. The way he schemes around the pitch is like Busquets except quicker and fewer weaknesses in my opinion.



Busquets couldn't win any of the big international tournaments without Xavi or Iniesta. His last big win was the Champions League in 2015 when he was 26, while he played a part in Barcelona being overran against PSG, Roma and Liverpool in big games without the other two. Put Rodri in with those two and they're even better. But in terms of being remembered, yes it's true. Rodri is 27 though, you could probably see Spain have a chance to win one of their next three tournaments with the talent they have.
I don't think you watched Busquets much
 

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Hard to see where City drop points between now and the end of the season. Arsenal's fixtures look trickier and we have a couple I could see us having difficulty with.

City are still favourites imo.
 

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Can’t see City dropping any point besides the Spurs game, and given that Spurs might be home & dry when they play each other, it’s pretty feasible for them to win all 8.

It’s so shit to be in a situation where us somehow beating the Scousers will just let tớ City getting the unprecedented 4th in a row.
Shittier still when we finish 6th even after that.
 

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Busquets couldn't win any of the big international tournaments without Xavi or Iniesta. His last big win was the Champions League in 2015 when he was 26, while he played a part in Barcelona being overran against PSG, Roma and Liverpool in big games without the other two. Put Rodri in with those two and they're even better. But in terms of being remembered, yes it's true. Rodri is 27 though, you could probably see Spain have a chance to win one of their next three tournaments with the talent they have.
Speaking about legacy, not just Rodri - Busquets comparasion, Redondo only has 1993 Copa America in his cabinet (just 29 caps overall as well). Doubt that is the reason people remember him as one of the greatest players in his position, so if Rodri continues with this level going forward (meaning, being City best player), lack of international trophies won't be held against him.
 

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Hard to see where City drop points between now and the end of the season. Arsenal's fixtures look trickier and we have a couple I could see us having difficulty with.

City are still favourites imo.
City has a harder schedule, when you take all competitions into account, certainly harder than Liverpool, at least.

Besides, City has Spurs left away, right?
Might well drop point there.
 

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I don't think you watched Busquets much
I don't think you're watching Rodri much.

Speaking about legacy, not just Rodri - Busquets comparasion, Redondo only has 1993 Copa America in his cabinet (just 29 caps overall as well). Doubt that is the reason people remember him as one of the greatest players in his position, so if Rodri continues with this level going forward (meaning, being City best player), lack of international trophies won't be held against him.
That's true, especially if Rodri wins another Champions League as well.
 

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City has a harder schedule, when you take all competitions into account, certainly harder than Liverpool, at least.

Besides, City has Spurs left away, right?
Might well drop point there.
I don't see it but yeah forgot they still have CL and the FA Cup as well. I'd like an Arsenal City semi final where they can have a go at each other towards the tail end of the season.

For us I think United, Fulham, West Ham & Villa away stand out. Spurs at home is the other one. We should win the rest.
 

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Hard to see where City drop points between now and the end of the season. Arsenal's fixtures look trickier and we have a couple I could see us having difficulty with.

City are still favourites imo.
To be fair looking at all the sides I think Arsenal have perfected killing a game. They are incredible at controlling space and playing the positional football that is statistically the best.

City are City.

As for Liverpool I think you’ve got enough weaknesses that eventually 2 points get dropped.

It really depends on injuries from here on in.
 

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Hard to see where City drop points between now and the end of the season. Arsenal's fixtures look trickier and we have a couple I could see us having difficulty with.

City are still favourites imo.
They could have a very exhausting run to the champions league final, and a lot of these title run ins are decided by absolutely stupid dropped points somewhere along the line.

I've said before I don't really see any of the three clubs dropping all that many points or having a run of fixtures that look scary but someone will do something daft, like drop points against Palace or Wolves.
 

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Would people have been happy if we battered Brentford like Brighton did but it finished 0-0? Sometimes you just need a bit of luck, performances to me mean more than results, you could play awful but scrape a 1-0, or you could dominate and give everything but not score, I’d rather see the team try and give everything than looking like a team that doesn’t have a clue how to play football.
Brighton have an actual style of play at least but I feel like De Zerbi doesn’t have a plan B. They look out of ideas on how to score.
 

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Hard to see where City drop points between now and the end of the season. Arsenal's fixtures look trickier and we have a couple I could see us having difficulty with.

City are still favourites imo.
Think spurs away will be city’s toughest game. Spurs are kind of like there bogie team the last few years.
 

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Unfortunately I feel Liverpool have biggest chances, given they're 1st (well tomorrow will be again after Sheffield United game) and their schedule. We beat them few weeks ago in the cup but it'll be much more difficult in league to take even a point off them.
 

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Nah, he's a very good player in a very good system for a very good team, but he's certainly not a generational player, whatever that means.
You’ve never heard of a generational talent? You and I have very different definitions of a very good player then. Odegaard is a very good player, Foden is world class and would get into any team in the world.
 

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Hard to see where City drop points between now and the end of the season. Arsenal's fixtures look trickier and we have a couple I could see us having difficulty with.

City are still favourites imo.
They always struggle at Spurs, haven't scored a goal in the league there since 2018 somehow.
 

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Wonder if Smith-Rowe will still be at Arsenal next season? I remember how good he was when he 'burst onto the scene'. Nowadays, he doesn't play much. At 23, he probably needs to try and find a club where he can play regularly, where he can hopefully resurrect the form he showed when he broke through.
I agree, the kid has stagnated, a lot like our Brandon Williams.
 

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I agree, the kid has stagnated, a lot like our Brandon Williams.
Palace, Fulham, Leicester take your pick.

Reiss Nelson is another who has about 1 start every three months. He used to go on season loans and do o.k. Can't remember if he signed a new long term deal but he seems just happy to be a reserve.
 

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Palace, Fulham, Leicester take your pick.

Reiss Nelson is another who has about 1 start every three months. He used to go on season loans and do o.k. Can't remember if he signed a new long term deal but he seems just happy to be a reserve.
Smith Rowe is too good for those clubs, or to be compared to Brandon Williams
 
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And of course Brentford goes on to play below average against Brighton. Brentford got dominated at home. 2 shots on target..
 

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And of course Brentford goes on to play below average against Brighton. Brentford got dominated at home. 2 shots on target..
It's us, not them. Would imagine most teams this season have recorded their largest number of shots against us. It certainly feels like that watching games anyway. Even in rare occasions we play well we give up too many shots.
 

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In terms of entertainment I can't remember worse back-to-back Arsenal games since the lockdown era. I was worried by the team selection but Arteta was proven right in the end. Much tougher game on the horizon and hopefully we will be well rested for it...
 

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It's us, not them. Would imagine most teams this season have recorded their largest number of shots against us. It certainly feels like that watching games anyway. Even in rare occasions we play well we give up too many shots.
Yep, this isn't 'its their cup final' thing. We've had teams take about 20 shots against us in many games. It's the way we're set up to allow it. We don't try and keep the ball, at all.

Brentford didn't even play above average against united. United were just horrendous. And somehow still managed to not win after scoring 95th minute goal to take the lead. Says it all
 

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In terms of entertainment I can't remember worse back-to-back Arsenal games since the lockdown era. I was worried by the team selection but Arteta was proven right in the end. Much tougher game on the horizon and hopefully we will be well rested for it...
I was licking my lips when I saw your line up but Arteta did the right thing and he got the right result. He's a very good manager.
 

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It's us, not them. Would imagine most teams this season have recorded their largest number of shots against us. It certainly feels like that watching games anyway. Even in rare occasions we play well we give up too many shots.
Bit of both really. No question this team is their own worst enemy and opponents knows this and some take full advantage of that by bringing the proper attitude - like Brentford and many more before them.
 

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Palace, Fulham, Leicester take your pick.

Reiss Nelson is another who has about 1 start every three months. He used to go on season loans and do o.k. Can't remember if he signed a new long term deal but he seems just happy to be a reserve.
Both ESR and Nelson deserve more game time for their development. I hope they can get it in Arsenal.