I usually don't like to play the luck card because you make your own luck but losing another 2 CBs in game is a fkn joke. Then they got 2 really soft penalties. I don't even think they were penalties but OK. But 2? Then the other 2 goals were deflections. Not one of thier goals were just well played you did us there. It's fkn annoying.
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Chelsea 4:3 Manchester United
Post-match discussion
Thu, 04 April 2024
Pochettino at Chelsea is a good investment by us. Good loss.
It wasn't that amount of extra time.
It was our awful defending.
The Dalot challenge was unnecessary.
But it was the Palmer winning deflected shot (off McT arm) that I was so unhappy about.
Honestly. To give Palmer so much free space was just stupid.
It was obvious he was going to shoot so late in the game.
All that was needed was someone to have marked him.
But he ho. That is what Manchester United do.
We probably wouldn't do much better against Bradford in all honesty!
Agree, but this does not justify the 8 minutes given.
The Stamford Bridge 'refs love-in' has reappeared once again. Almost every possible 'fifty-fifty' decision went for Chelsea.The one ground where Fergie was adamant we never got an even break was Stamford Bridge. The ghost of Drogba's 6 yard offside goal loomed again last night, with both penalty decisions.
It was like 'Basket-ball' football at times, attack v defence, great watch for the neutral, excruciating for the fans of those involved. Given the overall spirit shown and our losses at the back... and scoring three goals cracking goals, I am trying hard to be upbeat!!
Absolutely, the moment he got the ball I was screaming at the TV, my wife, in the kitchen, came running into the lounge, she thought I was having a heart-attack
.there was our 3rd goal and we took our time over celebrating plus the head injury to wan bisaka. i bet 8mins was about right.
Not to mention there were 9 substitutions (albeit in blocks) made during the second half. 8 minutes was fine. 5 minutes at the end of the first half was more surprising!
Same here.Absolutely, the moment he got the ball I was screaming at the TV, my wife, in the kitchen, came running into the lounge, she thought I was having a heart-attack
It is easy to be wise after the event.
But amateurish defending keeps happening.
Ok. We got away with the same scoreline against Liverpool. But last night our luck and some highly questionable refereeing cost us 3 points. I was amazed VAR agreed with the first when the Chelsea player tripped on the ball.
I was not happy with taking Garnacho off. SAF would never have done that.
He was our out ball all match.
Just hit a pass in his direction and he would have chased it down towards the corner flag.
Was a bit late for me as I had work quite early. Do I even watch highlights?
I was thinking exactly same last night!
Always happy to accept that you win some / lose some but when that first goal went in I’m thinking FFS, not again!
Genuinely starting to make me feel sad !!
Yes, but stop watching after Garnacho's second goal. (You can celebrate wildly for a while before turning the tv off.) You should feel great.
AWB was done for about 4 minutes with that head injury.
Honestly 8 seemed pretty conservative given some of the more egregious times we've seen this season.
If by some miracel we're winning or drawing with Liverpool at 90 minutes, guarenteed there will be minimal 8 minutes of injury time - even if the ball had literally never been out of play once for 45 minutes.
Anyone need a hug?
Whereas all of our three were (albeit with a little bit of help on the first one). Luck very obviously played into the result on this one. That being said, when you choose to play this brand of chaos football, you're putting yourself in a place where luck will matter more than normally. If you choose to let control go to the four winds and just pack your box and let the shots come, then you also increase the likelihood of getting those deflections, and of runners going down inside the box. Against Liverpool it went our way, yesterday it didn't.
I agree and in fact made the same comment earlier. But getting 2 CB injured AND 2 soft/non penalties AND 2 deflected shots is a a bit much
Yep, both non-penalties as was obvious at the time. Especially the first one which was a blatant dive. Get VAR so far away to f as possible.
Both were clumsy challenges. Antony didn't even protest, do you think he's the kind of guy who would stay quiet if he felt he was wronged? I do think Madueke was looking for it though, but Dalot gave the ref an easy call. I'm more annoyed that ours didn't get called.
Last night sum it all up, The most annoying and most frustrating season ever.
It was a real poxy win for Chelsea last night no question. I think it's 57 different injuries this season now and while it's ridiculous to not been able to field a settled centre back pairing all season the efforts to find a replacement for Shaw at left back has been worse. A decent quality Left back needs to be the first signing of the summer.
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True, that.
What a strange match.
- At 2-0 I thought we would lose 4-0 and maybe ETH would be fired (darn)
- Antony had an assist
- Mount played on the wing (ETH: why did he not play there when Rashford sucked for so long?)
- Both teams are so fragile
- Both teams can't make basic plays to keep the ball
- Both teams play sooooo stupid at times
ETH out, NOW!
Does anyone on here still think Bruno is one of the better AMs in the PL?
- At 2-0 I thought we would lose 4-0 and maybe ETH would be fired (darn)
- Antony had an assist
- Mount played on the wing (ETH: why did he not play there when Rashford sucked for so long?)
- Both teams are so fragile
- Both teams can't make basic plays to keep the ball
- Both teams play sooooo stupid at times
ETH out, NOW!
Does anyone on here still think Bruno is one of the better AMs in the PL?
Didn't Liverpool score two deflected goals in that game? I don't recall Onana having to pull off that many saves and United had the better chances outside the goals in that cup tie.
A better example would be Brentford match whereby things went Uniteds way to somehow lead the match but even with that luck couldn't hold on for the win.
EtH said:
| Chelsea | United | |
| XG | 3.02 | 1.47 |
| Shots | 28 | 19 |
| On target | 10 | 5 |
| Corners | 12 | 3 |
Stats are stats, and they are probably a bit diluted because of the very soft pens - but they do paint a picture. Quite a different picture to what EtH is seeing, it seems.
Mix in statements like "Rashford improving every day" and you actually start to wonder.
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Saw the " penalties' . Disgraceful reffing.
True.
The penalties were soft, but the poor defending let the runner get into such a dangerous position that they almost had to foul, and i'm sure the ref was influenced by what a dangerous position the attacking players were in.
Overall the team has too many players without technical ability to pass and keep the ball. Almost every team in the league seems to have the ability to pass it around us. We lose the ball way too easily and this can happen. Defending and tackling too deep allowing crosses and runs into the box regularly.
Can you imagine the social media uproar if the boot was on the other foot and United won in that manner last night which includes those two debatable penalties.
Nor why the game wasn't called after the pen - which was taken after the 8 mins
The thing that made those two goals so shocking was that we actually played really well in the second half! They looked completely toothless against us and we were wining 50/50s and snapping into tackles, and it looked like a laugher. But alas....
Anyone else shitting it about Sunday?
Anyone else shitting it about Sunday?
You can question the ref, you can question the time added, sure.
But in context...I mean, we're just not very good.
It's hardly like we put on a great (or even good) performance and were horribly robbed by ref decisions. You can't legitimately make that argument, can you?
Depressing as feck.
But in context...I mean, we're just not very good.
It's hardly like we put on a great (or even good) performance and were horribly robbed by ref decisions. You can't legitimately make that argument, can you?
Depressing as feck.
Definitely they were both soft, but they are both always getting called in this version of the league. And I would be screaming for them both if teams were reversed.
Totally agree they are penalties in this pathetic non-contact footballing World we seem to find ourselves in…but we wouldn’t get those two decisions in our favour.
It was quite remarkable watching him saunter around. I'd actually forgotten he came on as early as 66 minutes.
If it was Liverpool then 3 minutes would have been added.
for feck sakeThe first goal has to be one of the worst ones conceded all year. We had 3 players stop moving, all staring zombie-like at the man with the ball, but also all 3 of them not actually putting pressure on the ball, just standing there bent at the waste a tad and staring at the ball. And two Chelsea players run completely untracked down the side for the simplest of passes. And then its cut-back time, our Achilles heel!
And of course the shot and the keeper. I am pretty sure if he had closed his eyes and stood still the shot would have hit his shin pads and bounced away. But he tries to get down and save it with his arms, and somehow doesn't get near it. Just amazingly soft and embarrassing all around.
And of course the shot and the keeper. I am pretty sure if he had closed his eyes and stood still the shot would have hit his shin pads and bounced away. But he tries to get down and save it with his arms, and somehow doesn't get near it. Just amazingly soft and embarrassing all around.
I don't see the point in having VAR if they can't see that both pens should not have been given, do it properly or don't do it at all.
Don't you love it when somebody has the facts. Nice one
Man of the Match
Runners-up
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8%
Antony
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1%
Jonny Evans
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1%
Bruno Fernandes
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1%
Andre Onana
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1%
Casemiro
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1%
Harry Maguire
Player Ratings
Total Average Rating
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Compiled from 171 ratings.
Score Predictions
60,60,41
- Man Utd win
- Chelsea win
- Draw
Detailed Results
- 22% Chelsea 1:2 Man Utd
- 13% Chelsea 2:2 Man Utd
- 11% Chelsea 2:1 Man Utd
- 10% Chelsea 2:0 Man Utd
- 9% Chelsea 1:1 Man Utd
- 6% Chelsea 3:1 Man Utd
- 6% Chelsea 1:3 Man Utd
- 4% Chelsea 0:2 Man Utd
- 4% Chelsea 1:0 Man Utd
- 2% Chelsea 3:0 Man Utd
- 2% Chelsea 0:1 Man Utd
- 2% Chelsea 0:0 Man Utd
- 2% Chelsea 4:0 Man Utd
- 2% Chelsea 2:3 Man Utd
- 1% Chelsea 3:3 Man Utd
- 1% Chelsea 9:0 Man Utd
- 1% Chelsea 1:4 Man Utd
- 1% Chelsea 3:2 Man Utd
- 1% Chelsea 6:2 Man Utd
- 1% Chelsea 2:4 Man Utd
Match Stats
- Chelsea
- Man Utd
- Possession
- 56% 44%
- Shots
- 28 19
- Shots on Target
- 10 5
- Corners
- 12 3
- Fouls
- 7 15
Referee
Jarred Gillett
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