RAWK Goes Into Meltdown 23/24

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Call me crazy but I would be up for Stevie over all these other names being mentioned now
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Okay, you’re crazy
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WTF has he done to warrant even being mentioned as a potential Liverpool manager
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You're batshit crazy
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Can’t we just keep Klopp.
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Amorim or De Zerbi doesn't really inspire. Both gigantic steps down from Klopp.
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I wanted Gary O'Neil anyway.
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Or, here's a thought, Gareth Southgate.
Seriously, not advocating him for the job or anything but O'Neil has done really well at Wolves this season
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Amorim is my first choice now.
Naglesmann is my second.
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I’d take you ahead of Nagalsmann
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Think I'd take Hodgson over Nagalsmann.
It would be a laugh and he'd be gone quickly
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How stressful can this Liverpool job be…come on Jürgen, you know you’ve made a mistake.
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I'm a petty bastid so I hope Leverkusen fall apart and throw the league away and we trounce them in the Europa league final if we both get there
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Welcome Reuben Amorim.
Xabi Alonso is a tax dodger anyway.
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Maybe Amorim was always Edward’s first choice
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I got that feeling too when Edwards was confirmed to be back
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Michael Edwards first choice was going to be Amorim anyway I think.
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genuinley I’ve always thought exactly this
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Disappointing news about Alonso. Should make him an offer he can’t refuse.
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What does that even mean?
20M a season wages?
Relocate the club to Madrid and play in white?
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If the Alonso rumours are true, which seems likely since it's coming from both Liverpool and Bayern, then I'm quite firmly in the Thomas Frank camp. He's done incredibly well over several seasons, even this season his team is the most underperforming side compared to their expected points. Also the setup at Brentford seems quite similar to ours, and our players should suit his system quite well compared to a possession minded coach.
The Brentford fans seem to be counting their lucky stars that he seemingly isn't in the running.
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Now Thomas fecking Frank??
Are people on a wind up in here or what? FML.
It's genuinely the sort of shit we would say in a man united forum on potential managers.
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I’d be excited by Naggelsman, De Zerbi or Amorim - they’re all progressive young coaches that produce attacking football… happy with whichever the club picks to be honest
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yep, just got to trust Michael Edwards to get the choice right
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Xabi Alonso: “I had a good meeting with Bayer Leverkusen and I informed them that I will STAY and continue at the club”.
“After lot of talks about my future, I used the break to reflect and make my decision”.
“This is the place to be for me”
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"And ill be off next year to Madrid so there's that as well"
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Lucky escape for us, get me Rubes.
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Maybe he doesn't want to manage LFC, pretty ridiculous how people thought this was inevitable, similar to Gerrard a couple of years ago.
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I never thought it was inevitable like.
feck him, we will end his unbeaten run in the Europa final!
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We should get Howard Webb in.
We'd piss the league.
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I don’t understand the decision personally but it is what it is.
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I agree. You’ve got to be mad to turn us down over a project that could fall on its face next season
He won’t get another chance
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I dont think there will that much criticism if a manager continues to get us top four. Think if we are three seasons in and we havent won a couple of trophies in that situation maybe it turns. But the club isnt firing a manager if he gets top four for the first three seasons
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Think you're massively underestimating the expectation shift.
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Agreed. Often hear from various quarters that Klopp “should have won more” when winning more meant beating Madrid and City. And that was Klopp not a new manager.
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Bottler! He is young though - only 42. Madrid fans on twitter think they have 'owned' us again.

Now we can target an older, more experienced manager who has "been there, done that!" who will grow to love our club like Klopp does.
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2 years running Arsenal have challenged for the title with Senor Lego Head in charge, pretty sure he had virtually no management experience before the Arse job. They bought well, certainly splashed the cash, stuck with him and are now seeing the fruits of that. Then you look at those mutants in the red half of Manchester, they without any sort of strategy just threw big money at a bunch of players and it came back to bite em in the ass so far. Point is, the club have done brilliantly well in bringing back Edwards, Hughes is highly rated, the structure is in place, our squad is up there with the best in the league, bring the best man in for the top job that is available and continue to sign top players like we do and unearth gems from the academy like we do. I get the Alonso news is disappointing but we’re in a much better place than when Klopp joined us.
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If you're an Arsenal fan, you have to be loving this. City might be hit with charges and suffer because of that. Even then they will have a dip once Guardiola leaves in a year. We will suffer with losing Klopp and not replacing him.

Arsenal themselves are pretty well set. They have an elite manager and a talented squad. I'll be shocked if they don't end up with at least 2 titles out of the next 5 seasons. They certainly will break their barren run soon (as long as Arteta doesn't leave for elsewhere)
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Yerrrrr what?
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Excellent bait
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Arteta is an elite manager? How?
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He's totally revolutionised the club. They were a laughing stock for 5 or 6 years.
They are now a top team and genuine title challengers.
Watch a game of Arsenal and you can see the elite coaching job he has done.
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He is only elite if he wins the league or CL this season. He has been there a while now and has spent a lot of money.
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It also helps that lego head worked under Guardiola for a while at City, so he's had an education for sure (as much as I detest Guardiola). I actually think Arteta is a shoe in to replace Pep when he finally jacks it in there, especially if he bags a title with the Arse. It's an interesting point you make regarding the red side of Manchester, which has monumentally fecked up in the post-Fergie era by doing exactly the wrong thing in not backing Moyes when they were trying to rebuild an ancient squad. Arteta's experience shows that by giving a manager time they can build something, which is completely lacking in the modern game, and I really admire what he's done with the Arse over the past couple of years (I thought last year was going to be a one-off). It's clear that FSG need to look at that as an example of how to manage the post-Klopp transition rather than the clowns along the M62, and why our new manager will need time and crucially our support as fans.
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For a club with ambitions, sacking Moyes is never the wrong choice. He's a manager who has a peak output he can get out of his teams that has him always falling short of top four, regardless of the quality at his disposal. Their mistake was allowing Ferguson to pick his replacement rather than using his last couple of seasons at the club to build a better structure.
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He has spent a lot of money and City can be beat this season. Klopp became elite by winning, you dont prove to be one of the best around if you dont win, cheats or not.
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For all of our domination under Klopp we've won one title under him due to the City/Pep situation. I think holding that against Arteta is similar to when people used to call Klopp a bottler due to his record in finals.
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We won a CL in a similar time frame and have gotten to two finals. Thats whats elevated Klopp to the best manager status.
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Klopp is beyond elite though, he's the best there is in the game.
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Too much Arteta love in here. And that's without North Bank. Bloody hell.
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Strong beard game, check. Intense, pressing footy, check. Overturned the big guns and won a first title in donkeys years, check. Charismatic guy who the players and fans will warm to, check. He won't be Klopp 2.0, no one ever will be, but Amorim passes all the tests for me. If he has a brain in his head he will know Chelsea is just batshit crazy, and Barca is almost as bad in the post-Messi era. His Sporting team are pretty good, but my hair stands on end thinking what he could do with our squad.

Alonso was a romantic idea, but Amorim has more experience even though he is younger and going in for him makes sense. Mind you, this wouldn't be the first time clubs have fed bullshit to the media, and we all know that LFC have a track record of surprising us as well as using the media to their advantage. Expect more twists in this one for sure.
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Klopp had some nice words to say about De Zerbi in his press conference today, which makes me think its him.
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I have been hearing a lot about how De Zerbi is Edwards guy. Now Alonso has ruled himself out it's very possible.
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Interesting to see how big profile players react to him and Hughes. Two people with relative small profiles in football with no experience of working with the best players
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That's disappointing if alonso turned us down.

Didn't like the way he left us either. Pretty much threw rafa under a bus
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He should have been biting our hands off in a way you would expect a former player to do who has often spoken of his love for our (his) club and 'unfinished business' etc etc, really shocked to be honest. I think the LFC job will only come to him once and that is now so it's his loss.

Commendable loyalty to Leverkusen or a comfy stop off before going to be manager #3797 at Madrid in a year or two and even then only manage them for a couple of years before they get bored of him?

The devil in me hopes Leverkusen drops like a stone next season but that's just me - evil bloody so and so!
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You really fell for the claptrap about him caring about Liverpool? Should have learnt by now.
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Yep seems like a lot of people have had those blinkers on for a while when it comes to Alonso.
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Turning us down now is so foolish from Xabi, dear oh dear. Half his team will be taken by Bayern and others in the summer and they'll drop next year, then what offers will help have. He'll regret this one.
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Truth be told, we all wanted Southgate anyway!
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First order of business would be selling Trent to Madrid and bringing in Reece James or Kieran Trippier
Sorted!
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Haha, Keys! Which of his circle of ITKs would have any clue about the dealings of FSG, Alonso or Bayern?!

It's amusing though that he asks the question that if Man Utd appointing Southgate would top the theoretical appointment of Alonso for us. If Southgate has any sense he'll ride the England bandwagon for as long as possible and never prove his incompetence by returning to club management.
Just imagine if we ended up with Southgate as our next manager
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Stop it, my erection can only get so hard
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Just seen this story in my news feed:
"Glen Johnson insists Liverpool shouldn’t rule out making England boss Gareth Southgate their new manager in the summer amid links to rivals Man Utd."
He never was the sharpest tool in the box, was he?
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"And out pops a smiling Glen Johnson..."
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I've just threw up a bit in my mouth
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christ I hate that expression.
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I hate the thought of Gareth fecking Southgate as liverpool manager more believe me
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How can he have played here, known the club and the fans, then gone on to say that?

Southgate is as much a Liverpool manager as Hodgson was.
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Didn't he do a Masters in Mathematics while playing for Liverpool?
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Like the 1 + 1 = 3, math?
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Hopefully his Saudi mates get him the Newcastle job.

He's tactically inept. International football is just shite and England always get the best draws (until Southgate shits the bed if and when they face anyone half decent).

Maybe we could appoint him manager just for all his spawny cup draws. Just don't let him do any coaching.
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Imagine if it's Southgate I think we'd march on FSG's offices
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Imagine if Edwards sanctioned us appointing Southgate as his first major move after coming back. It would be a pretty spectacular way to commit career suicide.
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Seriously what the effin hell is wrong with Klopp!? We have a good thing going and he's packing it in like a twat. Actually annoyed at him for the first time.

Take some anti-aging supplements or something. Top up on B12 for energy. Apparently it's good for an energy boost.

Ginseng, Zinc, Ashwaganda, L-Citrulline, Beetroot powder, L-Tyrosine, Maca powder, CoQ10. I mean this is just a lazy google search, but i'm sure there must be something out there.

fecks sake.
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Maybe they’ll just end the club when Klopp goes.
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If Leverkusen don’t score a late equalizer, will they be petty enough to celebrate the result?
 
Loads of Liverpool fans on that twitter thread misunderstanding why they mean by compensation in this context :lol:
 
Some of the replies to this tweet are hilarious, they are winging about Antony Taylor being appointed ref like its some kind of conspiracy against them despite him being the ref that was in charge of their 4-1 and 5-0 wins at Old Trafford.

 
I dont think there will that much criticism if a manager continues to get us top four. Think if we are three seasons in and we havent won a couple of trophies in that situation maybe it turns. But the club isnt firing a manager if he gets top four for the first three seasons
Have always liked Glen, son of John.
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I'm not sure if Klopp has this good a record over his time at Liverpool :wenger:
 
It was as clear as day that this would happen, as soon as we started fluffing all those chances to put it to bed. Just ludicrous from us, we never looked like scoring from open play. After that result, you’d have to say we’re the third best team in the league
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0 wins in 3 attempts against one of the worst United sides I've ever seen this season. It's simply not good enough
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Disappointed in the lads there.

Sorry but why does Quansah start over Gomez at CB? Far too casual and always has a mistake in him.

Our attack is shite without Jota.
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One of the worst attacking displays under Klopp, utterly terrible, only ourselves to blame, our complacency finally catching up with us.
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fecking shit that but just have to hope that was actually a big point we got on City as they'd win any goal difference battle when they hammer Luton next. Arsenal have to deal with all this pressure now and we'll see how they handle it. Still have hope but can't afford to feck up again that's for sure.

Barely trying to go forward in added time was fecking bizarre mind.
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Am so fecking mad right now. We havent learned anything from the FA cup match
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Bottled it. Simple.
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Good result, never a bad thing to take away a draw at Old Trafford.
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Welp, only ourselves to blame. Can't say I'm surprised. Definitely miss Jota in games like this.

However, still lots to play for.
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Absolutely fecked that. Three times we've played that horrendous excuse for a football team this season, three times we've completely shat the bed. It's just not fecking good enough.
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Once again, wasteful and careless against the worst manc team in recent memory. Frustrating.
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Absolutely pathetic. Three games against the worst United side in living memory and you’ve conceded six goals to laughably poor footballers. You don’t win titles with performances like that
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Utterly brainless performance. Absolutely fuming with them. Learned nothing from the cup match.

Threw away the title today.
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I know people were trying to say that a point wasn't a disaster but they're shit and we've got harder away games coming up. Absolutely fecked it there
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Speechless. Only have ourselves to blame of course as it should have been a 8-0 game but this must be the spawniest team in football history. How they scrape these results is truly incredible.
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We haven't beaten the worst Man united team in modern history after 3 tries this year.

That was fecking pathetic.
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Three games against this shite and god knows how many chances missed. Ridiculous.
Could see it coming in the first half.

fecks sake.
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Shitting the bed vs Man Utd is the difference between us being 4 points clear and it being in the balance. Ducking infuriating
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Ridiculous result. fecking sickening.

Aside from the penalty, Mo had another atrocious performance.
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So disappointing. In the end we're almost lucky to get the point. So poor with the finishing.

Can't see City or Arsenal drawing that game.
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Biggest bottle job since Chelsea at home 10 years ago
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Embarrassing against this shit Utd side.

Shite.
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shit the fecking bed at their's again. feck off world.
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Always expected to drop points here unfortunately. At least our toughest fixture's out of the way and we're only behind on GD. Would've taken this any time at the start of the season.
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2 points dropped simple as that.

Worst United side for years and we’ve shit ourselves 3 times against them in one season. Played the occasion once again and not the game
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Don't deserve to win the league with performances like that we'll drop more points before the season is over can't see us doing it IMO. We've missed Jota so much during the run in.
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I'm fed up with Liverpool sides failing at Old Trafford. It's a terrible result all told. Now, winning the last 7 might not be enough. Feel devastated.
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A loss would have been disastrous and considering that we contrived to go behind, that was not a bad point. However, if we're serious about winning this league then we should be winning
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Switched off after Mainoo scored, I can't cope with this fecking fixture and our ability to feck it against them regardless of how fecking shite they are.
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The negativity in here is ridiculous. A draw away to our biggest rivals? Nothing wrong with that at all.
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yeah, its nothing wrong if you are fighting for 7th place
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Not happy with the result - but it might very well cost Liverpool the league -so not all bad :)
 
Seems their tactic of allowing lots of shots is still working.

Our mentality at Old Trafford was the thing we needed to work on. And whatever was said didn't work. Everything rushed and poor decisions.

A fair result given how we played.
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Folks will say we’re still joint top, but that is a disaster of a result imo.
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Presume Mo is fasting. He has been abysmal last few weeks. Ramadan couldnt have come at a worse time for us.
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Ramadan and Egypt are his priorities. He has been so disappointing.
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Any chance we could beat someone 9-0 before the season is out?
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Konate had to start this one. Failing to beat this side over 3 games suggests that we would be stealing the league. We do not deserve to win it.
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Arsenal will destroy them. We haven't been good enough ultimately but if you haven't got your best players on the pitch (Ali/Trent/Konate/Jota) then it's a tougher ask.
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United aren't finishing 4th now they'll be throwing that game nothing we can do about it.
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You do my fecking head in Liverpool you stupid mad lovable bastards
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Apart from the fact the title is out of our hands, the fact we blew a lead, the fact we gave away bad goals, the fact our finishing was terrible and we basically threw away two points to a side that's genuinely awful, yes it's fine.
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It’s United v Liverpool. It happens.

Have you not watched this fixture before? David Ngog once scored against them when they were reigning league and European champions
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A draw at Old Trafford. In a season with so many injuries, after we’ve rebuilt the entire midfield and had a ton of decisions go against us. I just don’t understand the negativity
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Time to take a breadth. We're joint top and still ahead of City. Arsenal will drop points. We're still right in this.
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Watching Arsenal yesterday, i'm not sure why people would assume they will drop points. I might actually agree, but if they do, we will inevitably drop more.

Everton away will be just like today...good chance we will shit the bed again and the forwards will miss a hatful. Villa away? Spurs at home? No way we aren't dropping more points.
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Arsenal have to play Tottenham, United and Chelsea yet. They will drop points.
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United and Chelsea are shit maybe Spurs but would you bet on us not to drop more points after watching that?
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They’ll batter all three.
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you dont find it disappointing that your main forward and leader disappeared for 2 months when we are challenging for the title.
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What the feck do you want him to do?
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Maybe do what United players did regularly under Ferguson for just once.
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Name a single one that missed AFCON.
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i can name one who missed vital world cup qualifiers for his country and another who walked out on his just before a world cup
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We wont get a manager as good as Klopp though.
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Reckon they all said that as soon as Shankly retired…
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Will he be as good as Arteta? He’s been able to build a top side.
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I guess we will find out. But right now he is our golden goose and I just cant see us getting anyone as good
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Meh, we've suffered worse injustices there over the years.

Onwards and upwards. Would be nice to see us return to being clinical pdq.
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Great point at a very difficult stadium.

Still top.

Mentality Monsters
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We are not fecking top, read the fecking table. Read it and understand it.
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This was the best that Utd could do and they played their part admirably. It's up to the big clubs to do their part now and win the PL.
 
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This was the best that Utd could do and they played their part admirably. It's up to the big clubs to do their part now and win the PL.
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Congratulations on going "joint top"! I hope you're still "joint top" with Arsenal at the end of the season.
 
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This was the best that Utd could do and they played their part admirably. It's up to the big clubs to do their part now and win the PL.
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United still the biggest team in England regardless of your one title in 34 years.
 
62 shots against us in the league. Only scored 2 goals and picked up 2pts out of 6. The greatest PL side ever, some say :lol:
 
so frustrating that we put in another sloppy performance

united are klopps bogey team

the fa cup game dented the players confidence

so many players passing rather than shooting first half
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Why is it that we're so often involved in title races where two points dropped ruins everything
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Groundhog Day

Wait until we go to Goodison. We’ve all seen this script before.
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Has it ruined everything? Anything? What’s it ruined?
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No, but it’s out of our hands just like that.
It feels like March 2019 all over again.
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City aren’t as infallible as then.
I also think CL football is a factor that will impact both City and Arsenal.
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Klopp talking sense.
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Fernandes is a prick and Ten Haag a useless bald c*nt?
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Said we are still in race, etc.
Maybe some people on should listen to him
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Arsenal and City don’t have a manager as good as Klopp either
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They also spend more than us on new players.
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Given the cost of Endo and Mac Allister I think that’s a metric to be treated with caution. Wages are more interesting
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Maybe, but that investment may very well continue. Point is next season we go in with far more uncertainty.
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I know its emotional. But the culture of calling this player and that player, shit because things didnt go well. Is grating. Especially when you know they are giving their all

They largely did well today but werent ruthless. But there is still a title to win.
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Get the feck out of here with that sort of attitude
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how many sloppy goals have we conceded this season
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You are right, but we play a much higher risk game than either of our title rivals, its what makes us so exciting to watch but also fallible.
City are incredibly successful, but boring to watch.
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So frustrating, 4 points dropped and a cup loss against that absolute shower of jokers, only got ourselves to blame really.

Can only hope there are more twists to come, but maybe if you can't beat shite like these after multiple times of asking you don't deserve to win the title?
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Harry Maguire and Shambala at centre half for fecks sake. If you didn't laugh you'd cry.
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This was the best that Utd could do and they played their part admirably. It's up to the big clubs to do their part now and win the PL.
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That same big club that finished below United last season?

Had it not been for a Wan-Bissaka brain fart today then we'd have done what we did to you 3 weeks ago and had you leaving Old Trafford with nothing.

Klopp's record vs Ten Hag now stands at 1 win, 2 draws, and 2 losses. Nice one.
 
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This was the best that Utd could do and they played their part admirably. It's up to the big clubs to do their part now and win the PL.
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The best we can do it is continue to be the bigger club in England with 20 league titles. Keep chasing, it’ll be a long tim before you’re this close again. Lost the title race today. The stuff of non-champions.
 
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This was the best that Utd could do and they played their part admirably. It's up to the big clubs to do their part now and win the PL.
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I can taste the fear. Reckon we’ve done enough with a draw to stop you now with Everton, Spurs, Villa all coming for you. Be interesting what our approach to Arsenal is if it’s still tight then.
 
The funniest is when they just start abusing each other. Every reasonable opinion gets blasted by frothing at the mouth conspiracy theorists. Great entertainment.
 
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