La Liga matches in USA

Utd heap

Models for Coin.
Joined
Aug 15, 2006
Messages
21,526
You might get a Charity Shield abroad but anything else would result in WW3 in England/Germany etc. Can't see it anytime soon.
 

horsechoker

The Caf's Roy Keane.
Joined
Apr 16, 2015
Messages
52,440
Location
The stable
The Athletic did a podcast about this last week.

I don't think this will be straightforward but it's the direction we're going
 

MancunianAngels

Full Member
Joined
Jan 11, 2013
Messages
2,508
Location
Manchester
Supports
FC United
You might get a Charity Shield abroad but anything else would result in WW3 in England/Germany etc. Can't see it anytime soon.
The Charity Shield being moved is how it starts though. Spain moved their equivalent to Saudi and this is the inevitable next step.
 

Chipper

Adulterer.
Joined
Oct 25, 2017
Messages
5,685
I fear it won't be long until it starts happening with domestic games in England.
I bloody hope not!

We already that game 39 idea floated around at one stage didn't we?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_39

I think there's 2 things that might save us from that. Fan backlash, and that the Premier League is top-dog when it comes to income already. Other federations/clubs see this kind of a thing as a way to catch up with the Premier League. We don't really need it although it didn't stop our clubs wanting to join the Superleague so never underestimate greed.
 
Last edited:

Todd

Full Member
Joined
Mar 7, 2011
Messages
3,445
Location
Indiana, USA
As a Yank I love this, but I understand why all of you would be bothered by it.

That being said, the NFL has started having several games each season in London and Munich and everyone (expect the players) seems to love it.
 

Rood

nostradamus like gloater
Scout
Joined
Jun 21, 2008
Messages
21,343
Location
@United_Hour
Awful idea - hope the fans will fight any move for anything similar in England

I'd also question what the point is - how much money can something like this actually generate?
 

Chipper

Adulterer.
Joined
Oct 25, 2017
Messages
5,685
As a Yank I love this, but I understand why all of you would be bothered by it.

That being said, the NFL has started having several games each season in London and Munich and everyone (expect the players) seems to love it.
What did the American fans of the teams that got picked to play in London make of it? Were they not bothered about being unable to go to the stadium to see them play, especially local season ticket holders?

Edit: Think they only have 8 home games a season too, so as a percentage one being moved halfway across the world is a big chunk of it. I'd be well pissed off!
 
Last edited:

Big Ben Foster

Correctly predicted Portugal to win Euro 2016
Joined
Mar 19, 2008
Messages
12,844
Location
BR -> MI -> TX
Supports
Also support Vasco da Gama
As a Yank I love this, but I understand why all of you would be bothered by it.

That being said, the NFL has started having several games each season in London and Munich and everyone (expect the players) seems to love it.
IMO one of the things I love about the league system in Europe is the double round-robin nature of it. Everyone plays everyone else, once at home, and once away. This change takes away from that symmetry and makes the fixture list less fair.
 

Utd heap

Models for Coin.
Joined
Aug 15, 2006
Messages
21,526
As a Yank I love this, but I understand why all of you would be bothered by it.

That being said, the NFL has started having several games each season in London and Munich and everyone (expect the players) seems to love it.
NFL is not comparable, they are franchises. No-one 'really' cares.
 

Utd heap

Models for Coin.
Joined
Aug 15, 2006
Messages
21,526
The Charity Shield being moved is how it starts though. Spain moved their equivalent to Saudi and this is the inevitable next step.
Spanish football culture is very different. If you thought the super league protests were decent wait and see what happens if they try this.
 

SER19

Full Member
Joined
Apr 15, 2008
Messages
12,720
Obscene. If they try pull that in the PL, there needs to be protests bigger than the super league.
 

mazhar13

Kermit Inc. 2022
Scout
Joined
Sep 10, 2013
Messages
36,877
Location
Toronto, ON, Canada
What did the American fans of the teams that got picked to play in London make of it? Were they not bothered about being unable to go to the stadium to see them play, especially local season ticket holders?
The majority of them don't attend every match, anyways, so most people didn't kick up a fuss about this. With that said, even if people had concerns, they didn't air them in any way, so they weren't that bothered by it.

It's a much bigger deal in the rest of the world than it is here, but then again, most people don't have any strong connection to their local sports team.
 

El Zoido

Full Member
Joined
Jun 7, 2013
Messages
12,367
Location
UK
Surely this damages the fairness of the competition? Not that those in power care about that, but still.
 

Precaution

Full Member
Joined
Nov 18, 2003
Messages
3,837
Location
'Murican South
It'll go to unfortunately the few places NBC goto thesedays in their "fan fest" quests, L.A/Nashville/Boston and Orlando, I'd love it to come to New Orleans but that won't happen (though we are getting WWE + Superbowl next year)

Nothing too wrong with it, fans are all over the globe, players are totally beyond a normal fan thesedays and it's a good marketing tool in a big untapped market, the MLS might be miffed but they dent their own product by exclusively putting everything behind a paywall Apple TV anywho.
 

izec

Full Member
Joined
Sep 5, 2013
Messages
27,260
Location
Lucilinburhuc
Just a matter of time until it happens in England as well. Not next year, but in 5 or 10 years? I wouldnt bet against it in 2032 for example. A lot can happen until then, and football is evolving, for the worse.
 

Todd

Full Member
Joined
Mar 7, 2011
Messages
3,445
Location
Indiana, USA
What did the American fans of the teams that got picked to play in London make of it? Were they not bothered about being unable to go to the stadium to see them play, especially local season ticket holders?

Edit: Think they only have 8 home games a season too, so as a percentage one being moved halfway across the world is a big chunk of it. I'd be well pissed off!
Most fans don't go to every game anyway, as it's cost-prohibitive. For a pair of season tickets (because nobody really goes to games alone out here) you're looking at probably $5k for the season for decent seats.
 

adexkola

Doesn't understand sportswashing.
Joined
Mar 17, 2008
Messages
48,491
Location
The CL is a glorified FA Cup set to music
Supports
orderly disembarking on planes
As a Yank I love this, but I understand why all of you would be bothered by it.

That being said, the NFL has started having several games each season in London and Munich and everyone (expect the players) seems to love it.
As a Yank it's nonsense. Those tickets won't come for cheap. And way to diminish your own domestic league that you're trying to grow by hosting La Liga games. A spit in the face of La Liga supporters who have home games and revenue taken away from them.
 

Chairman Steve

Full Member
Joined
May 9, 2018
Messages
7,126
Is that how desperate they are for money? Surprised the Middle East posse haven‘t already dug them out with that one.
 

arnoldS

New Member
Newbie
Joined
Aug 26, 2017
Messages
335
That's ignorant Eurosnob rubbish but ok
But he is kinda right no? I mean it seems to be normal for a team to swap cities/states whatever so surely there is no big difference if they play in another country?
 

chris123

Full Member
Joined
Aug 18, 2015
Messages
404
Globalisation of sport is already happening and is inevitable with the Premier League. I'm quite happy every year we get to see NFL games in London, I don't necessarily have a huge problem if the FA decided to give the U.S. a league cup or league game. Just be happy in this case it's the U.S. and not Saudi Arabia.

I know people love their NFL teams - but they aren't ingrained community hubs like they are in the UK (still).
Tell that to Packers fans living in Green Bay. There is definitely a level of ignorance with believing that the NFL teams losing games doesn't matter as much because they are corporations rather than teams.
 

adexkola

Doesn't understand sportswashing.
Joined
Mar 17, 2008
Messages
48,491
Location
The CL is a glorified FA Cup set to music
Supports
orderly disembarking on planes
I know people love their NFL teams - but they aren't ingrained community hubs like they are in the UK (still).
They aren't children of the community, but a lot of teams are involved in community activities and outreach in their areas. It's not a blanket-wide soulless franchise model like Zara
 

carvajal

Full Member
Joined
Jan 20, 2015
Messages
11,097
Location
Spain
Supports
Real Madrid
If Depor is in Primera in 2025 and I am a member, I would sacrifice myself to go to Miami / Los Ángeles with all expenses paid. Someone has to do it.
 

Valencia Shin Crosses

Full Member
Joined
Sep 30, 2015
Messages
6,826
Location
"Martial...He's isolated Skrtel here..."
IMO one of the things I love about the league system in Europe is the double round-robin nature of it. Everyone plays everyone else, once at home, and once away. This change takes away from that symmetry and makes the fixture list less fair.
Yeah this is my main issue with it. Unless you're going to do both legs of a season in the US, it screws up the symmetry. And that's not factoring in that the fixture needs to be something quite neutral and "boring" (you can't have the fecking Clasico in the US), which is the antithesis of what you'd assume La Liga would prefer if they are trying to make waves in a new country.
 

Valencia Shin Crosses

Full Member
Joined
Sep 30, 2015
Messages
6,826
Location
"Martial...He's isolated Skrtel here..."
They aren't children of the community, but a lot of teams are involved in community activities and outreach in their areas. It's not a blanket-wide soulless franchise model like Zara
Yeah people saying that haven't actually lived in a city with huge support for the franchise there. It's very much ingratiated into the culture in plenty of cities (doesn't necessarily have to be NFL either). I think people assume otherwise because US based franchises are almost always in major cities that dwarf almost every UK town that has a club, so the extra population gives the idea that it isn't as important (which is sometimes true but othertimes VERY false)
 

Adz_99

New Member
Newbie
Joined
Feb 18, 2024
Messages
228
There's something really tin pot about sending league games abroad.

Yeah this is my main issue with it. Unless you're going to do both legs of a season in the US, it screws up the symmetry. And that's not factoring in that the fixture needs to be something quite neutral and "boring" (you can't have the fecking Clasico in the US), which is the antithesis of what you'd assume La Liga would prefer if they are trying to make waves in a new country.
I bet they get the Classico or at the very least the Madrid derby. Maybe not the first year but before long. No way does Barcelona V Getafe garner any interest or money.
 

adexkola

Doesn't understand sportswashing.
Joined
Mar 17, 2008
Messages
48,491
Location
The CL is a glorified FA Cup set to music
Supports
orderly disembarking on planes
But he is kinda right no? I mean it seems to be normal for a team to swap cities/states whatever so surely there is no big difference if they play in another country?
It happens, which is tragic. But it's not under consideration for the vast majority of teams

Recent example: Columbus Crew's former cnut owner tried to uproot the team from Columbus to Austin TX and got rebuffed primarily by the community.
 

adexkola

Doesn't understand sportswashing.
Joined
Mar 17, 2008
Messages
48,491
Location
The CL is a glorified FA Cup set to music
Supports
orderly disembarking on planes
There's something really tin pot about sending league games abroad.



I bet they get the Classico or at the very least the Madrid derby. Maybe not the first year but before long. No way does Barcelona V Getafe garner any interest or money.
They definitely are eyeing El Classico, which is just... If you want to see it, go to Madrid or Barcelona. I have no desire in paying $3000 to see them play in Jerry's World in Dallas
 

André Dominguez

Full Member
Joined
Aug 7, 2017
Messages
6,381
Location
Lisbon
Supports
Benfica, Académica
can't see muricans bothered to see any other games of La Liga not involving Barça or Real