Robbie Boy
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True, that.A least someone has some dignity in this place.
True, that.A least someone has some dignity in this place.
To be fair everyone knows ( Chelsea included) that this season they're not going to do well, so they won't be a worry. Frank's really lucky the transfer ban and Hazard leaving releases a heap of pressure off him this season.I can’t see you getting top 4, is that not a worry? Come on, you don’t think a more experienced manager could have an organised defence?
fecking hell, this guy is going to break your heart one day.They are showcasing why Pochettino is the best manager in the world right now. Chelsea has a transfer ban, they somewhat crumble. Pochettino doesn’t sign anyone due to lack of backing from his board, they reach champions league finals and finish fourth with the weakest squad depth out of the top six.
He's not lucky, he probably would not have got the job without the ban.To be fair everyone knows ( Chelsea included) that this season they're not going to do well, so they won't be a worry. Frank's really lucky the transfer ban and Hazard leaving releases a heap of pressure off him this season.
This season it's going to be:
City
Liverpool/Spurs
Arsenal/Utd
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Chelsea
He took over from Gary Rowett who makes Pulis look like Pep (style wise).Derby weren't even consistently that good going forward. Scored less goals than the 5 teams above them. They had games where they destroyed sides but they were the standard Derby County, completely inconsistent and a playoff team, he changed nothing.
And that was with the likes of Mason Mount and Harry Wilson coming in to give him a helping hand.
They scored 1 more goal the season before.They were a nice team to watch though, similar to Chelsea going forward.
It was fine. Nothing impressive or worthy of earning a PL job, if it wasn't Frank Lampard nobody would have batted an eyelid.He took over from Gary Rowett who makes Pulis look like Pep (style wise).
Maintaining a league position while changing a clubs culture is a decent season.
Come on man. Poch is a great manager for sure, but this Chelsea side is the worst it's been in 15 years with a rookie manager at the wheel. Maybe they will get their act together, but right now i dont see a single Chelsea player making it into the Spurs first XI, maybe Azpilicueta and/or Kante, but not anyone elseThey are showcasing why Pochettino is the best manager in the world right now. Chelsea has a transfer ban, they somewhat crumble. Pochettino doesn’t sign anyone due to lack of backing from his board, they reach champions league finals and finish fourth with the weakest squad depth out of the top six.
I'd call that a lucky break. It's been awhile that a manager comes to Chelsea with no pressure to do well due to the circumstances. However even though the acceptance of not getting 4th maybe there, for Franks sake the performances better be, otherwise it's going to a long season for you lot.He's not lucky, he probably would not have got the job without the ban.
Their squad is looking very average and I actually think they will fall out of the top six and dare I say become a mid-table team in the coming years if teams like Wolves and Leicester start pushing hard, but it’s still only 2 games into the season. I’ll wait till Christmas to judge and decide.I tried to tell you guys in the matchday thread when they faced us that chelsea wont finish top 8. They don't have a great squad after losing their best play who was responsible for 70% of their creativity. Its like us if we lost Pogba and couldn't effectively replace him.
Lampard is also very naive keeping the likes of kante and pedro on who played 120 minutes against liverpool. So much space in between their midfield and defense. That tactic were they blitz out the first 20 minutes cant last. They just dont have the quality to play the way Lampard wants them to play. They are trying to replicate city when they have players like azpilicueta, kante, zouma for example who arent really comfortable on the ball.
If lampard wants to last till December he will have to change to a more counterattacking system where he doesn't leave the likes of jorginho easy to run past. Its going to be a long season for them I'm afraid.
Kante and Kepa both start.Come on man. Poch is a great manager for sure, but this Chelsea side is the worst it's been in 15 years with a rookie manager at the wheel. Maybe they will get their act together, but right now i dont see a single Chelsea player making it into the Spurs first XI, maybe Azpilicueta and/or Kante, but not anyone else
I've enjoyed watching them but today they were dross. The second half was just Leicester.I actually like how chelsea play now, lets give them a few more games before declaring Lampard a failure
I stated somewhat, but Chelsea should have lost today. Performance wise, if I was a fan I would be concerned. Spurs didn’t have Kane at his top level last season and was injured numerous time. You could easily say Spurs was without their best player as well after looking at his performance and games missed. Pochettino was the main difference between what Spurs accomplished last season and the quality of football on display at Chelsea at the moment.This is a disingenuous (borderline deluded) argument. Chelsea lost their best player by far, and 2 games does not a crumble make.
Spurs did not lose anyone last year. They had nice continuity which Pochettino benefitted from.
Kepa = Lloris(?)Come on man. Poch is a great manager for sure, but this Chelsea side is the worst it's been in 15 years with a rookie manager at the wheel. Maybe they will get their act together, but right now i dont see a single Chelsea player making it into the Spurs first XI, maybe Azpilicueta and/or Kante, but not anyone else
Huh, so why do they look like absolute strangers on the bench? He’s rarely discussing anything with anyoneLampard has known most of his coaching staff for donkeys years. He said that his assistant (Morris) was his closest friend in football long before he took him to Derby.
You thought you had a smart comment huh?
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Hudson Odoi - we can all see, but yeah agree with you on Loftus Cheek. Seems to be amazingly hyped up though.Am I the only person in the world who doesn't know what Loftus-Cheek add's?
I swear a pundit, may have been Hoddle, was talking about him as if he were the next Pele last time I saw him play. He looks worse than any of the kids we've brought through recently.
Can't say I've noticed that so far, I'll take your word for it.Huh, so why do they look like absolute strangers on the bench? He’s rarely discussing anything with anyone
Europa League, you are the defending champion of it. Twice even.People talking about top 6 as if that's something to aim for. If we can't finish top 4 then we'd be better off in 7th than 5th or 6th.
It's an massive drain on the league campaign. When we easily won the league under Conte, not having so many midweek games was a huge benefit.Europa League, you are the defending champion of it. Twice even.
The 4-2-3-1 formation is killing us. Can be easily exposed. How many times did Leicester bypass the midfield with 2 or 3 passes and went through on goal. Also don’t understand Lamps obsession with an attacking mid, that is so 2012. Game has moved on man ! Despite the goal, I thought Mount was poor, looked out of depth sometimes.Battered by a top 4 rival now held at home by a top 6 rival
Not looking good
spurs have the better team in terms of attacking creativity... yes. you take kante out of that chelsea team and they truly are fked. chelsea needs to get back to buying playersI stated somewhat, but Chelsea should have lost today. Performance wise, if I was a fan I would be concerned. Spurs didn’t have Kane at his top level last season and was injured numerous time. You could easily say Spurs was without their best player as well after looking at his performance and games missed. Pochettino was the main difference between what Spurs accomplished last season and the quality of football on display at Chelsea at the moment.
Kepa = Lloris(?)
Azpilicueta - Alderweireld(Verthognhen) - Christiansen(Rudiger) - Alonso = Rose
Kante - N’Dombele
Odoi - Eriksen - Son
Kane
A lot could actually.
I only saw chelse v man utd and liverpool and thought there is a lot of potential. Frank has a lot of work to do to steady the ship and get them winning again before theyve lost the season before it starts. At least they will be able to concentrate on the cl league if these results continue.Who? The BBC asked about 30 of their "experts" and the only one who had Chelsea in the top 4 was an Ex-Chelsea manager!
I don't know anyone who is or was "so convinced" that we'll get top 4.
True that. I’d have preferred us to have capitulated properly last season and finish outside of a Europa spot.People talking about top 6 as if that's something to aim for. If we can't finish top 4 then we'd be better off in 7th than 5th or 6th.
I think you're putting too much effort trying to talk people into making rational posts right after a game. It's basically peek time for kneejerk right after a game.Who exactly are going overhaul us in the top 8?
Yes Hazard will be a loss and short term will likely cost us top 4 but this notion he was single handedly preventing us from dining with Watford is as laughable as it is ignorant.
That's the thing. I think they will run out of steam, especially when the cup games kick in. They just need a couple of injuries and they're royally fecked. They really should be getting some credit in the bank for when those lean times come along. But dropping 5 points already which they will never get back before even getting going is why people are getting jittery.I think you're putting too much effort trying to talk people into making rational posts right after a game. It's basically peek time for kneejerk right after a game.
I mean we're talking 2 games into the season and people have already decides who isn't going to make top 4 or top 8. This is the Caf where opinions swing with every results at the drop of a hat, that's all you need to know.
I personally think Chelsea is right there into that top 4 fight(lmao at Chelsea not making top 8 ). They've been playing good football and if they carry their performances they should start getting results soon.
Only issue is they run out of steam. My opinion is that Frank should have done a bit more or peraps a lot more fitness work if he wanted to adopt such a high octane pressing style he's trying to do. Chelsea start at 100 miles an hour then tail of due to fatigue which wouldn't be that much of an issue of fitness were higher.
Either that or they start managing their game. Cool off on the ultra pressing, the players just aren't fit enough to carry that type of game for a full 90 minutes.
How much would you like to bet?Lampard sack watch, not a chance for him to arrive in October
I don't think he fits this Chelsea team. I saw a compilation of Jorginho's passes in 2016/17 and 2017/18 and they were great. He was pinging some lovely balls to Mertens, Insigne, Callejon etc.Leicester game also summed up Jorginho.
One of the most boring and pointless central midfielders I can remember being in the Prem. Sideways, sideways, sideways... andddd then go missing whenever an opposition midfield puts real pressure on you.