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It's probably out of fear, he isn't a decent human being, I remember him saying something like "I hope the regime obliterates them all before they spread around the country", it could be like Stockholm Syndrome? Since he had no direct benefits from the regime except becoming more broke and staying unemployed.

But no matter, fascists tend to make really stupid or cowardly people love them, and I think there are similarities between those people and Trump supporters.
Well, I'm sorry to hear that a close relative has those views. It naturally affects the way you see them, which is sad. And it must be disappointing for you.
 

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I'd be surprised if they get a Republican president in the next decade.
I dunno... I have a feeling the dems are going to end up in a huge mess for 2024 probably kamala gets the nomination but I suspect after a big internal fight... not sure that's going to be ideal for them and I think if the dems do go with new supreme Court judges etc that could really really motivate the gop base whilst leading some dems to thinking job done ... demographics certainly long term favour dems but they can't get complacent or start infighting then I can certainly see a possibility of the Republican party winning one of the next two elections
 

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It would be quite the turnaround if the first woman president was from the GOP immediately after trump.

Contrasting to say the least
Haley is interesting... probably close enough to the trump administration to carry some trump support... but got out with enough time to dodge questions etc and she's reasonably skilled at that... think she would match up well against kamala (if that's who the dems end up with... if they end up with aoc then the republicans can probably pick anybody butb donald trump and win a landslide)
 

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I just despair. This isn't going to go away, the mass consumption of conspiracy theories is going to continue to undermine democracies and result in violence and death. As has been said this is radicalisation, and that isn't simply undone and can't be reasoned with.
 

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These Antifa plants are freaking everywhere.. infiltrated an entire fleet of 80 buses too :rolleyes:
 

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He's the main icon of the whole event. I just find it odd its a case of 'when youve got time can you pop over...'
I only have what's in this report, but it's easy to imagine this was "voluntary but not voluntary". They're gonna have a lot of folks to arrest, if this guy just comes in of his own accord, I'm sure they're delighted.
 

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I just despair. This isn't going to go away, the mass consumption of conspiracy theories is going to continue to undermine democracies and result in violence and death. As has been said this is radicalisation, and that isn't simply undone and can't be reasoned with.
It’s also a massive hit on the entire world. With the UK exiting the EU, Europe as a force is weakening when we should be coming together and strengthening.

Russia and China will be loving it, I really hope the US bounce back quickly from this. They need to be a United force.
 

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The FBI might wanna check out the Nye County, Nevada GOP...

https://nyegop.org/2021/01/08/a-letter-from-the-chairman/?v=7516fd43adaa
Just look how many comments invoke religion & not just the self help niceties it offers them.

This is the mental deficiency side of religion, the dangerous side. This is evangelical, dominionist. This is being so delusional that these mensas think it’s biblical, it’s ordained by their manmade fairytale, & they are allowed to operate freely in its lunacy & any chaos created in its name is totally fine.
 
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Haley is interesting... probably close enough to the trump administration to carry some trump support... but got out with enough time to dodge questions etc and she's reasonably skilled at that... think she would match up well against kamala (if that's who the dems end up with... if they end up with aoc then the republicans can probably pick anybody butb donald trump and win a landslide)
She's doing her part if her mention of "banning of Trump from Twitter is what happens in China" is legit. Certainly playing the base around free speech and the China boogeyman. She's another snake in the bush, like Cruz but better looking and with tits.
 

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She's doing her part if her mention of "banning of Trump from Twitter is what happens in China" is legit. Certainly playing the base around free speech and the China boogeyman. She's another snake in the bush, like Cruz but better looking and with tits.
That’s odd. I’ve always thought of her as looking aesthetically very similar to Cruz but with tits.
 

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It seems little talked about but how close were we to a far more serious event? I suspect we could have ended up with kidnapped and/or murdered senators quite easily. I still can't believe how easy it was for Y'all Qaeda to gain access.
I had said this before. They found dozens of molotov cocktails in one van parked nearby. So the building could have been set ablaze easily.
If a 100 of the mob bad brought their assault rifles to the protest , they could have gained access much more easily and actually attacked lawmakers. I think they just didn't expect the building to be that undefended. So, the possibility for a completely catastrophic outcome was indeed very high.
 

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This is bloody good work. Bravo Sir.
 

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I had said this before. They found dozens of molotov cocktails in one van parked nearby. So the building could have been set ablaze easily.
If a 100 of the mob bad brought their assault rifles to the protest , they could have gained access much more easily and actually attacked lawmakers. I think they just didn't expect the building to be that undefended. So, the possibility for a completely catastrophic outcome was indeed very high.
Not sure if it’s the same vechicle, but multiple pipe bombs & long guns were found in another. There was definitely levels to which this could have descended.

But, the Capitol couldn’t have been set ablaze, it’s stone. Fires could have been set outside, but they would have been minor.
 

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I said ‘brilliant’ out loud a few times here.
 

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Not sure if it’s the same vechicle, but multiple pipe bombs & long guns were found in another. There was definitely levels to which this could have descended.

But, the Capitol couldn’t have been set ablaze, it’s stone. Fires could have been set outside, but they would have been minor.
But the insides of the chambers would have burned.
 

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But the insides of the chambers would have burned.
So a certain extent & for a very short time. It would have caused concern, but it would have had minimal effect.

But, I’m surprised as you that we don’t hear more about it, especially the bombs, no matter the type.
 

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That's something that crossed my mind. Just imagine someone from a Jihad group went in with a bomb. I know your standard middle Eastern looking person wouldn't have got far with the clan that broke in but white people have been known to be radicalised by Islam.
If that middle eastern looking person said he went to kindergarten with Obama in Kenya he would have been guest speaker. These gobshites will believe anything that they think confirms their delusions.
 

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It's very interesting what Congressman Jim Clyburn said today.
He said he is always in an office where he works as he is the Whip. That office doesn't have any name plates or anything to show what office that is.
He has an office where his name plate is.

They never went to that office but went straight to the office he usually worked from. So he feels that there is an inside connection. He said that the rank and file was brilliant and that the leadership let them down.
There are reports that some of them were police officers and some have been sent on administrative leave. This is very dangerous.
 

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The fecking replies.

Mental deficients are so certain in their delusions, aren’t they?
The fear of socialism is absolutely crazy, every dumb thing said in the comments seem to end with someone talking about communism/socialism. Do americans think that western europeans are miserable with their social democracies?
 

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The fear of socialism is absolutely crazy, every dumb thing said in the comments seem to end with someone talking about communism/socialism. Do americans think that western europeans are miserable with their social democracies?
Facts don't matter. Tell a lie often enough, it becomes truth. Gaslighting has become the norm in any conversation about these subjects.

Wave your magic wand. Chant the words, "Communism". And automagically, you are right. Everyone else is wrong.
 

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Facts don't matter. Tell a lie often enough, it becomes truth. Gaslighting has become the norm in any conversation about these subjects.

Wave your magic wand. Chant the words, "Communism". And automagically, you are right. Everyone else is wrong.
:lol:

I love it.
 

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The fear of socialism is absolutely crazy, every dumb thing said in the comments seem to end with someone talking about communism/socialism. Do americans think that western europeans are miserable with their social democracies?
Yes. My uncle, who is an extremely successful engineer with an absurd IQ, thinks every country in Europe, including the UK, is “socialist”... I talked him down re Ireland somewhat, with his claim that Ireland is a social democracy (intentionally) on the way to a socialist state
 

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The fear of socialism is absolutely crazy, every dumb thing said in the comments seem to end with someone talking about communism/socialism. Do americans think that western europeans are miserable with their social democracies?
Most of them don't even understand/know what "socialism" is. They seem to think it's authoritarian dictatorship - which ironically is what most of them want from Trump.
 

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Most of them don't even understand/know what "socialism" is. They seem to think it's authoritarian dictatorship - which ironically is what most of them want from Trump.
Yeah, they clearly have no clue about what it means but I'm baffled by the fear. Fear is a strong feeling and I can't understand how their society managed to create that fear.