2021 California Recall Election

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So it looks like there will be a new California Recall Election. Since it only requires 1.5 million signatures, it's only just under 4% of California's population that needs to sign. It took a full year and a lot of wasted money from Republicans to get this far in the recall process. Wasted money that clearly could be better spent but I guess it creates jobs.

Here is the latest information on the current recall:
https://ballotpedia.org/Gavin_Newsom_recall,_Governor_of_California_(2019-2021)

Here is a preview of some potential candidates, the leading one apparently being someone with zero-political experience, Caitlyn Jenner, trying to pull another Arnold-like upset:
https://www.newsweek.com/who-runnin...021-every-candidate-enter-recall-race-1586693

Here is a good overview of the last recall election which was quite crazy and highly interesting:
https://abc7news.com/gray-davis-rec...er-california-governor-gavin-newsom/10488037/

Here is a brief from Politico:

"What happens next? Technically the recall has not yet qualified. There remains a period for people who signed recall petitions to remove their signatures, although the chances of that blocking the recall are effectively nil.
After that period, the state must analyze the cost of an election and lawmakers must weigh in on that financial analysis. The lieutenant governor would then call an election within the following 60 to 80 days, likely placing the recall election in November, and candidates will have 59 days to officially file.

How did we get here? The pandemic, stupid. A judge granted recall proponents more time to gather signatures since the coronavirus was impeding their efforts to collect signatures. That proved critical, ensuring recall backers were enlisting support as Newsom pulled the state into a winter lockdown and was revealed to have attended a top aide’s birthday dinner at an opulent restaurant.

Frustration over restrictions and closed schools and anger over Newsom’s evident hypocrisy jolted the campaign, drawing national interest and money and pushing the effort across the finish line.

Who are Newsom’s opponents? A growing field of Republicans will jockey to replace Newsom. So far, that includes former San Diego Mayor Kevin Faulconer, former Rep. Doug Ose and Newsom’s 2018 opponent, businessperson John Cox. Transgender celebrity and Olympian Caitlyn Jenner joined the fray last week.

Because there is no limit on recall candidates, you can expect more candidates to leap in. That could include Hollywood B-listers, wealthy self-funders and random candidates like former adult actress Mary Carey, who is running again after placing tenth in the 2003 recall. Candidates only need to be a registered voter and pay about $4,000 for a filing fee — or collect 7,000 signatures.

The most critical question hanging over the field is whether another Democrat will get in as a backstop should Newsom fail to survive the first recall question. Some Democrats believe it would be folly to not have a fallback since a Republican could take office with a plurality of the vote."


Rank		CandidateVotesPercentage
1RepublicanArnold Schwarzenegger4,206,28448.6%
2DemocraticCruz Bustamante2,724,87431.5%
3RepublicanTom McClintock1,161,28713.4%
All unlisted and write-in candidates combined275,7193.2%
4GreenPeter Camejo242,2472.8%
5IndependentArianna Huffington[36]47,5050.5%
6RepublicanPeter Ueberroth[37]25,1340.3%
7DemocraticLarry Flynt17,4580.2%
8IndependentGary Coleman14,2420.2%
9IndependentGeorge B. Schwartzman12,3820.1%
10IndependentMary Carey11,1790.1%
11DemocraticBruce Margolin9,1880.1%
12RepublicanBill Simon[38]8,9130.1%
13RepublicanVan Vo7,2260.1%
14Independent (actually Socialist Equality Party)John Christopher Burton6,7480.1%
15DemocraticDavid Laughing Horse Robinson6,4960.1%
16IndependentLeo Gallagher5,4660.1%
17RepublicanCheryl Bly-Chester5,2970.1%
18DemocraticLawrence Strauss5,2450.1%
19DemocraticRonald Palmieri4,2210.1%
20DemocraticCalvin Louie3,9060.1%
21IndependentBadi Badiozamani3,404<0.1%
22DemocraticAudie Bock3,358<0.1%
23DemocraticRalph Hernandez3,199<0.1%
24DemocraticEdward Kennedy3,007<0.1%
25DemocraticDan Feinstein2,927<0.1%
26IndependentBob McClain2,857<0.1%
27DemocraticJames Green2,848<0.1%
28DemocraticGarrett Gruener2,562<0.1%
29IndependentAngelyne2,536<0.1%
30DemocraticPaul Mariano2,455<0.1%
31GreenIvan Hall2,346<0.1%
32DemocraticJim Weir2,328<0.1%
33IndependentJerome Kunzman2,317<0.1%
34LibertarianNed Roscoe2,250<0.1%
35DemocraticGeorgina Russell2,216<0.1%
36DemocraticJonathan Miller2,214<0.1%
37IndependentJack Grisham2,200<0.1%
38DemocraticChristopher Sproul2,039<0.1%
39GreenDaniel Watts2,021<0.1%
40LibertarianKen Hamidi1,948<0.1%
41DemocraticMarc Valdez1,840<0.1%
42DemocraticFrank Macaluso1,801<0.1%
43DemocraticDaniel Ramirez1,778<0.1%
44RepublicanRandall Sprague1,771<0.1%
45IndependentBrooke Adams1,713<0.1%
46IndependentMohammad Arif1,709<0.1%
47IndependentNathan Walton1,697<0.1%
48LibertarianJohn Hickey1,689<0.1%
49DemocraticMike Schmier1,652<0.1%
50Peace and FreedomC.T. Weber1,626<0.1%
51DemocraticDiana Foss1,577<0.1%
52DemocraticMichael Wozniak1,562<0.1%
53IndependentB.E. Smith1,545<0.1%
54DemocraticLingel Winters1,466<0.1%
55IndependentRichard Simmons1,422<0.1%
56DemocraticJoe Guzzardi1,419<0.1%
57IndependentMike McCarthy1,351<0.1%
58DemocraticArt Brown1,344<0.1%
59IndependentLeonard Padilla1,343<0.1%
60Natural LawIris Adam1,297<0.1%
61GreenMaurice Walker1,236<0.1%
62IndependentTrek Kelly1,210<0.1%
63DemocraticVikramjit Bajwa1,168<0.1%
64RepublicanDavid Sams1,166<0.1%
65Natural LawDarin Price1,152<0.1%
66American IndependentCharles Pineda1,104<0.1%
67DemocraticJohn Mortensen1,078<0.1%
68IndependentSara Hanlon1,077<0.1%
69American IndependentDiane Templin1,067<0.1%
70DemocraticDick Lane1,065<0.1%
71RepublicanJim Hoffmann1,046<0.1%
72DemocraticWilliam Vaughn1,028<0.1%
73IndependentC. Stephen Henderson989<0.1%
74RepublicanRobert Newman987<0.1%
75RepublicanJamie Safford943<0.1%
76DemocraticRobert Mannheim914<0.1%
77RepublicanDorene Musilli907<0.1%
78DemocraticScott Mednick903<0.1%
79DemocraticA. Lavar Taylor851<0.1%
80IndependentBrian Tracy842<0.1%
81IndependentKurt Rightmyer837<0.1%
82DemocraticChristopher Ranken823<0.1%
83IndependentSharon Rushford821<0.1%
84DemocraticDarrin Scheidle814<0.1%
85IndependentPatricia Tilley792<0.1%
86IndependentDarryl Mobley778<0.1%
87RepublicanAlex-St. James771<0.1%
88DemocraticBob Edwards758<0.1%
89RepublicanDouglas Anderson754<0.1%
90Independent (actually Socialist Workers Party)Joel Britton751<0.1%
91RepublicanMichael Jackson746<0.1%
92RepublicanEd Beyer727<0.1%
93DemocraticPaul Mailander715<0.1%
94RepublicanJohn Beard699<0.1%
95DemocraticPaul Nave679<0.1%
96DemocraticRobert Cullenbine632<0.1%
97DemocraticWarren Farrell626<0.1%
98RepublicanChuck Walker623<0.1%
99RepublicanWilliam Chambers610<0.1%
100RepublicanVip Bhola607<0.1%
101DemocraticGerold Lee Gorman598<0.1%
102RepublicanDennis McMahon591<0.1%
103RepublicanJames Vandeventer588<0.1%
104DemocraticEric Korevaar586<0.1%
105DemocraticKelly Kimball582<0.1%
106RepublicanMike McNeilly581<0.1%
107RepublicanS. Issa554<0.1%
108RepublicanGino Martorana532<0.1%
109RepublicanRichard Gosse4970.0%
110DemocraticTim Sylvester4890.0%
111(t)DemocraticBill Prady4740.0%
111(t)RepublicanBryan Quinn4740.0%
113RepublicanJeffrey Mock4550.0%
114RepublicanPaul Vann4520.0%
115IndependentMichael Cheli4510.0%
116RepublicanHeather Peters4440.0%
117IndependentJeff Rainforth4250.0%
118IndependentRonald Friedman4190.0%
119RepublicanTodd Carson3860.0%
120IndependentScott Davis[39][40]3840.0%
121RepublicanDaniel Richards3830.0%
122RepublicanCarl Mehr3760.0%
123DemocraticLorraine Fontanes3650.0%
124DemocraticGary Leonard3590.0%
125RepublicanGregory Pawlik3490.0%
126RepublicanJon Zellhoefer3460.0%
127RepublicanReva Renz3330.0%
128RepublicanKevin Richter3050.0%
129RepublicanStephen Knapp2980.0%
130RepublicanWilliam Tsangares2810.0%
131RepublicanLogan Clements2740.0%
132RepublicanRobert Dole2730.0%
133DemocraticDavid Kessinger2610.0%
134RepublicanGene Forte2350.0%
135IndependentTodd Lewis1920.0%
136IndependentMathilda Spak (write-in)160.0%
137(t)RepublicanJason Gastrich (write-in)110.0%
137(t)DemocraticMonty Manibog (write-in)110.0%
139(t)IndependentThomas Benigno (write-in)70.0%
139(t)IndependentR. Charlie Chadwick (write-in)70.0%
141(t)IndependentShirley Coly (write-in)50.0%
141(t)DemocraticJane Dawson (write-in)50.0%
143(t)DemocraticPauline Cooper (write-in)40.0%
143(t)IndependentPaul Walton (write-in)40.0%
145(t)RepublicanJim Trenton (write-in)30.0%
145(t)DemocraticWignes Warren (write-in)30.0%
147(t)IndependentChristy Cassel (write-in)20.0%
147(t)RepublicanJacques-André Istel (write-in)20.0%
147(t)DemocraticChristian Meister (write-in)20.0%
147(t)IndependentVincent Pallaver (write-in)20.0%
147(t)DemocraticLincoln Pickard (write-in)20.0%
147(t)DemocraticLynda Toth (write-in)20.0%
147(t)RepublicanDonald Wang (write-in)20.0%
154(t)DemocraticRobert Gibb (write-in)10.0%
154(t)IndependentRonald Spangler (write-in)10.0%
154(t)IndependentKyle Conover (write-in)10.0%
154(t)DemocraticBill Thill (write-in)10.0%
154(t)DemocraticJurlene White (write-in)10.0%
154(t)RepublicanJoel Wirth (write-in)1
 

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Seems ridiculous that 12% of the electorate can trigger the overturning of a previous election result to me.
 

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nimic said:
That's where I get most of my US civics knowledge, and also The Cones of Dunshire.

Seems terribly undemocratic, though. Or if not strictly undemocratic, then at the very least poorly thought out.
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That's just to get a measure on the ballot. It originates from the early 1900 progressive era when the belief was that the people deserved to be able to get laws on a ballot to be voted on.

I'd say, that for whatever its flaws, it's the opposite of undemocratic. It's hyper-democratic. A significant amount of the population can force an issue onto the ballot and then it can be voted on by the people. It's probably the most democratic form of law-making I've seen, certainly more so than a group of state senators voting on something. It's not 7% can actually recall a governor, just get the issue on the ballot

Of course, there are other issues about the prop/recall system, mainly astroturfing by rich special interests (like in this case).
 

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Think I mentioned it somewhere in here, but imagine if the local politics in Liverpool had this type of recall process.

Absolutely nothing would ever get accomplished. It would be total gridlock with recall elections constantly.
 

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The next governor election for CA is in 2022, but there's been an effort to recall Newsom since late 2019/early 2020. There aren't many legitimate reasons why he's being recalled, and just because people disagree with his policies or how Covid was being handled (it has been handled pretty well given the size of the state and very different regions).

It's a waste of money and time this. Newsom, like all politicians, have their warts, but he hasn't done anything so egregious that really warrants a recall or a temporary governor who will be campaigning for immediate re-election.
 

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It’s going to be a massive waste of money. I saw somewhere it will cost up to $400 million! With recall only sitting at 40% yes it will be a massive waste, during an economic crisis in a pandemic. Republicans really are the worst scum in this country.
 

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Sky1981 said:
Tbf you'll never know with california.

They did voted for arnold. Granted he turns out great but at that time we're like the terminator dude?
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Arnold had been in and around politics for a while before that recall, so he was not an unknown political entity at the time. The other difference was that it was an absolute certainty that Davis was going to be recalled while it is likely Newsom won't be. I disagreed with a lot of what he wanted, but he was light years better than Davis.
 

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WI_Red said:
Arnold had been in and around politics for a while before that recall, so he was not an unknown political entity at the time. The other difference was that it was an absolute certainty that Davis was going to be recalled while it is likely Newsom won't be. I disagreed with a lot of what he wanted, but he was light years better than Davis.
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Yes, Arnold was involved in political stuff for a decade and it was non-partisan stuff like after-school programs for kids and other uncontroversial measures. He was never seen as a far-right nutter like most of the Rs today.
 

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calodo2003 said:
What was the impetus for Davis being recalled?

Electricity / energy?
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The California energy crisis due to the absolutely ill-thought-out energy deregulation scheme in the late 90s which was really more the Republican (Pete Wilson was the gov when it was passed) and Democrats like that horrible Antonio Villaraigosa. Davis took a big hit that wasn't really on him
 
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