4 Way Draft: QF - EAP vs Prolifik

Who will win this game?


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Šjor Bepo

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Team EAP

Formation: 4-3-3

Strong defence with Tassotti making way for Viv Anderson, a tall and rangy player who's perhaps a bit underappreciated in his era. Was a strong defender who was good at providing overlapping width too.

Lerby and Schuster provide the base of defensive midfield. Kind of like Keane/Scholes, they have a good blend of workrate, defensive solidity and ability to bring the all from the deep.

Though represented in this fashion as a front 3, this is a fully flexible and versatile front 3 with players roaming and switching positions as the game flows.

I do believe that the tactics and version chosen reduces the overlaps between Platini and Diego. This is also the version of Diego before his ego and on/off personality became trouble to accommodate.

Michel Platini - I have chosen to use the Juventus version of Platini who masterminded the game from the midfield (rather than more swashbuckling France Euro'84 version) here. Regularly dropping into deeper areas and running the game with his distribution and late runs forward, he pretty much ran the game for them.

This video offers a fantastic glimpse into how effective Platini was from the deeper midfield.



Diego Maradona - This here is a younger pre-Napoli Maradona. Though technically slightly before his peak, but it still was when he twice broke the record for the most expensive transfer (Boca to Barca and then from Barca to Napoli) of his time. He regularly played upfront as a striker or support striker in a front 2 (for Argentina) or front 3 (for Barca). Still a free role forward, he roamed all over the box swapping sides regularly to great effect.

This was also peak-scoring Diego with 28 goals in 40 games for Boca and 38 goals in 58 games for Barca! His scoring never reached the same rates as he moved deeper in to full #10 later on in his career.
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Team Pro

Decided to stick with the 4-2-2-2 from the previous round. It works because not only do we have two excellent attacking full-backs in Lahm and Cabrini to provide width, but the front four of KDB, Iniesta, Messi, and Henry are all comfortable floating between wide and central areas, making them incredibly difficult to pick up. KDB will be more direct in his driving central runs to support the front two, while Iniesta frequently drifts infield to aid the build-up play. Given the insane technical quality of not only our midfield and attack but also our back four (Lahm and Scirea in particular), we should dominate possession regardless of the opposition.

Out of possession, we drop into a medium block with an intense press once the ball approaches the halfway line. KDB and Iniesta cover the flanks, while Messi, who still has a high-defensive work-rate in this phase of his career, comes inside to press the deepest opposition midfielder. Should you get past our hard-working attackers and the double-pivot of Rodri and Schweinsteiger, you then have to deal with a back four of Lahm-Nesta-Scirea-Cabrini with Buffon behind them. When we win the ball, we have terrifying counter-attacking potential with Messi, Henry, and KDB carrying the ball forward and/or picking out the killer pass; if such an opportunity doesn't present itself immediately, we recycle possesion and keep probing until one of our creative geniuses is able generate an opening.
 
Can’t help feel that Edgar should also have gone 4222 with Diego and Platini as the 10s and Elkjaer/Rummenigge splitting wide to create space through the middle.

Brave effort nonetheless. For me Diego was to all intents and purposes the best player in the world when he was a young pup in the Argentinian league in a similar gig.
 
any proper vids of maradona playing up front?
if Platini is asked to drop deeper, how does a Schuster Platini partnership looks like?
 
ny proper vids of maradona playing up front?
if Platini is asked to drop deeper, how does a Schuster Platini partnership looks like?

I'll try to post some in a bit.

Schuster had stints in his career where he played as Sweeper. He was defensively astute and his earlier version was a roaming box to box before his injuries turned him to a midfield orchestrator. Here he'll stay deep and use his skills to get the ball out quickly and provide creativity from the deep. I don't see any reason he can't play a Tardelli'esque role.

Can’t help feel that Edgar should also have gone 4222 with Diego and Platini as the 10s and Elkjaer/Rummenigge splitting wide to create space through the middle.

Brave effort nonetheless. For me Diego was to all intents and purposes the best player in the world when he was a young pup in the Argentinian league in a similar gig.

Was my first thought, but then I was unsure of who does what on and off the ball. Here there's a clear distinction of Platini who will bridge midfield and attack and Diego who will stay in/around the box swapping positions with Kalle and Elkjaer.
 
https://footballia.net/matches/real-madrid-fc-barcelona-liga-1-division-1982-1983

A very similar setup the the formation picture I posted in OP. Even within the first 10m, you can see how he plays as CF. he's the furthest man up the pitch, making runs off the shoulder of last defender. Esp at 7:20'ish, you can see he was the man on top when off the ball. Again at 34:15, his run when expecting a pass. Same at 37:50. Overall, all through the match he rarely dropped deeper to orchestrate play rather waiting for the pass just before the last defender.

For those who don't have time to watch a full game... An entire highlights video of his Barca stint, he's always around the box cutting the ball back in from either side or making the run himself. There's literally is no clip of him playing as traditional #10 with a forward ahead of him. He was the man up top. Get the ball to his feet and let the goals flow.

Here with Elkjaer and Kalle on either side, this will be a very fluid and lethal combo that will test even Pro's great defence.

 
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Well, you got me intrigued Edgar. Can see how you could possibly steal it and that it could work which is a success in itself. Problem is that prolifik is not only so strong, but would have the majority of the ball dominating possession. Good side of it is that it would naturally put Platini more deeper allowing him to launch counters, but overall it would take away Diego's influence on the game even more.

Short story, prolifik is just too damn good.

edit: if the pitch is off the same quality as in that game in 1983 you could definitely win it
 
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Fair play to EAP with Maradona as striker. It is probably the best option he could choose and not one I would have thought of.
 
quality of backlines decides the winner, pro is just too strong in every department
 
I find it to be an excellent and intriguing idea to position Maradona as a forward. Edgar has explained this concept quite well. I recall reading old French reports by Platini during his time at Saint-Étienne, which mentioned that he played as a central striker (as well as on the wings and in central midfield on various occasions). The reviews noted his exceptional ability to find space and his proficiency in heading the ball. French media even suggested that he should be utilized as a forward more often, as it would be a waste of his natural goalscoring talent otherwise.


Edgar’s proposed front four is remarkably fluid, capable of interchanging positions seamlessly throughout the game. It’s a brilliant concept, and I greatly admire the thought and insight behind it.